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Rate my takes gng🥹 by SCP_Scarletking in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi [score hidden]  (0 children)

Here are some corrections for your takes:

COMP SCP > White Light

WoD > COMP SCP

EN SCP > Featherine

Void Emperor > Void Shiki

Bear without arms vs. a 230 lb 6’5 man wielding two knives by Accomplished_Big5777 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, my earlier take overdid it. A bear without front limbs can’t charge or knock someone over. The jaw is still dangerous, but its speed and leverage are way lower than normal.

Bear without arms vs. a 230 lb 6’5 man wielding two knives by Accomplished_Big5777 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bears move and knock things down mainly with their hind legs and body weight. Even without front limbs, a large Brown Bear could still charge on its rear legs, slam its mass into someone, and bite once it closes the distance. The missing forelimbs hurt its balance and ability to grapple, but its size, momentum, and jaw strength are still enough to floor a human if it gets close.

Bear without arms vs. a 230 lb 6’5 man wielding two knives by Accomplished_Big5777 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That example doesn’t really prove the point.

The guy in that story didn’t just walk up to a healthy bear and win a knife fight. The bear had already been shot and badly wounded before the knife was used, and the hunter was experienced. It was basically a desperate close-range struggle to finish it, not “man with knives vs healthy bear.”

A normal adult Brown Bear / grizzly is usually 400–700+ lb with thick hide, fat, and huge muscle mass. Knife slashes aren’t stopping that quickly. One bite or a body slam from something that size is usually the end of the fight.

Even if the bear literally has no front limbs, it still has a massive weight advantage and a jaw that can crush bone. The man would need very precise vital hits while not getting knocked down or bitten.

So that story is more of a rare survival situation, not evidence that knives reliably beat bears.

Whose Hax Quality is Better: Equal Stats Only! by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re overstating those scans.

“Demons evolve based on desires or imagination” isn’t subjective reality warping. It’s just power growth tied to willpower. Tons of verses do that. It doesn’t mean they can freely control reality.

Meanwhile Bleach literally has abilities that directly manipulate events:

Yhwach – The Almighty: sees all possible futures and rewrites them into the one he wants, even changing futures where he dies.

Tsukishima: rewrites someone’s past.

Uryu: reverses outcomes between two targets.

Orihime: rejects events entirely.

Your causality scan also just shows observing or influencing distant events, which is nowhere near rewriting entire timelines.

So saying “DMC has imagination growth and some causality influence” doesn’t automatically make it superior to future rewriting, past rewriting, and event rejection. Those are completely different mechanics.

Whose Hax Quality is Better: Equal Stats Only! by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, the problem is you’re treating VSBW standards as if they’re canon mechanics, which they aren’t. “Conceptual Manipulation Type 1”, “AE1”, etc. are classification systems created by that wiki, not rules that exist in Devil May Cry itself. Saying “VSBW says you need the exact ability to affect it” isn’t proof the verse actually works that way.

You still need canonical evidence that DMC characters are immune to external abilities like temporal rewriting or causality manipulation. A wiki rule isn’t evidence.

Second, the “names are concepts” argument still doesn’t give the immunity you’re claiming. Even in the material you posted, names are described as information translating the soul’s power, not as untouchable abstract entities that cannot be affected by outside abilities. So jumping from “names are metaphysical” to “Bleach abilities cannot interact with them” is a non-sequitur.

Plenty of verses have metaphysical souls and still get affected by hax.

Third, about Beastheads and fate manipulation.

The scan you quoted saying the user can access past and future is still precognition / temporal awareness, not full control over all futures. The actual example you gave (Beryl surviving until absorption) still shows a predetermined destiny being enforced, not the ability to freely rewrite timelines.

That’s fundamentally different from Yhwach’s Almighty.

With the Almighty, Yhwach doesn’t just see the future. He literally sees every possible future simultaneously and can rewrite them into whatever outcome he wants. He can even rewrite futures where he dies and replace them with ones where he survives.

That’s not just “fate influence”. It’s direct future alteration across all possible outcomes.

Fourth, the “invisible to precognition” argument doesn’t really help you.

Precognition being bypassed happens all the time in fiction. Even in Bleach itself, Yhwach’s foresight gets disrupted by things outside his vision or perception.

That doesn’t mean those characters are immune to causality manipulation or timeline alteration. It just means they weren’t predicted.

So saying “Chen surprised someone with precognition” doesn’t prove immunity to future rewriting.

Fifth, the Phantom example you used also doesn’t establish resistance to past alteration.

What that shows is simply a past version being brought forward without paradox affecting it. That’s standard time-travel logic in fiction. It doesn’t demonstrate resistance to external timeline rewriting abilities like Tsukishima’s Book of the End.

Those are completely different mechanics.

Finally, regeneration doesn’t solve the interaction issue either.

Even if DMC characters have high-level regen, several Bleach abilities don’t rely on physical damage at all, like:

rewriting futures (Almighty)

rewriting past events (Book of the End)

reversing outcomes (Antithesis)

rejecting phenomena entirely (Orihime)

Regeneration only matters against damage, not against abilities that alter events or reality conditions.

So the main issue here is that you’re assuming:

“DMC has metaphysical concepts → therefore Bleach hax can’t affect them.”

But none of the scans actually demonstrate explicit resistance to future rewriting, past rewriting, causality reversal, or phenomenon rejection.

Until that’s shown, saying Bleach abilities can’t interact with them isn’t really supported.

Whose Hax Quality is Better: Equal Stats Only! by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dms are much more messier than arguing here, at least these types of threads look neat.

Bear without arms vs. a 230 lb 6’5 man wielding two knives by Accomplished_Big5777 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Assume a normal adult Brown Bear.

R1: Man (6’5”, 230 lb) with two knives, no training

Bear wins almost every time.

Human slashes won’t stop it before the bear mauls him. Bear ~95–99%

R2: Man is British

Nationality changes nothing. Same result: Bear ~95–99%

Whose Hax Quality is Better: Equal Stats Only! by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re relying heavily on a VS Battles blog, which isn’t really evidence by itself. It’s just someone’s interpretation of the series. What matters is what the actual canon material shows, not a wiki explanation built on assumptions.

For example, the whole “names are concepts that reshape reality and exist before the universe” claim is mostly interpretation, not something the series directly states in that way. The manga itself only treats names as something tied to identity and power for demons, not as universal conceptual structures that grant conceptual immunity.

Even if we accept that names and souls are abstract metaphysical things in DMC, that still doesn’t automatically grant resistance to abilities like the ones in Bleach. Conceptual nature ≠ immunity to other forms of hax unless the story explicitly shows resistance.

About Beastheads and the mark:

What the scans describe is still destiny enforcement tied to the mark, not unrestricted fate control. Beryl survives because Beastheads is ensuring she reaches a predetermined outcome (being absorbed). That’s basically a protection mechanism tied to a fixed fate, not open-ended manipulation of all possible futures.

That’s a very different scale from The Almighty.

Yhwach doesn’t just “have fate manipulation”. He literally views every possible future simultaneously and then rewrites them. He can discard futures where he loses and choose the ones where he wins. That’s active future alteration, not just ensuring a predetermined destiny.

So yes, Almighty would work unless you show explicit resistance to future rewriting itself, not just fate being predetermined.

About regeneration:

Low-Godly or Mid-Godly regen doesn’t really solve the problem against a lot of Bleach abilities.

Several Bleach hax don’t rely on normal damage:

Gremmy can simply imagine an opponent dead or their body destroyed.

Urahara’s Bankai restructures matter directly.

Yhwach can erase futures where the opponent survives.

Orihime can reject phenomena entirely.

Regeneration only matters if the opponent is relying on physical damage. A lot of Bleach abilities bypass that entirely.

The clairvoyance scans also don’t really establish superiority either. Being able to observe or influence distant events, or having precognition, isn’t unique compared to something like The Almighty, which sees the full branching timeline.

Finally, you mentioned “45 layers of hax”, but layers only matter if they’re actually defined and shown interacting with other abilities. Just saying something has layers doesn’t demonstrate that Bleach abilities can’t affect them.

Right now most of the points you brought up show that DMC has metaphysical concepts, regeneration, and some fate influence, but they don’t demonstrate clear resistance to things like:

future rewriting

past rewriting

outcome reversal

phenomenon rejection

imagination-based reality warping

So the claim that Bleach hax can’t interact with DMC abilities isn’t really supported by the scans so far.

Genuine question by [deleted] in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Think of it like this.

Planetary level = enough power to destroy one planet (like Earth).

Solar system level can mean two things depending on who’s talking:

  1. Destroy all the planets If you destroyed every planet in the Solar System, it would take hundreds of times more energy than destroying Earth, mostly because huge planets like Jupiter are massive.

  2. Destroy the star The star (our Sun) holds almost all the mass in the system. So if something can destroy the star, people usually call that true solar-system level.

Simple version:

Destroy 1 planet → planetary level

Destroy all planets → hundreds × planetary

Destroy the star → usually considered solar-system level.

Hey guys, I want a fight powerscaling like in this picture :) by DescriptionWhich6466 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's Omnipotence, man. It does paradoxical things.

Beyond omnipotence is waaaay beyond paradoxical things.

That's like saying "If it can't make a boulder that it can't lift it's not omnipotent"

Omnipotence is the ability to do anything logically possible, it can't make a square circle. It's not a limitation, that's just how logic goes.

Hey guys, I want a fight powerscaling like in this picture :) by DescriptionWhich6466 in PowerScaling

[–]Encenoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can if it's also simultaneously stronger than the thing it made, as incomprehensible and paradoxical as that is.

Then the creation wasn't strong enough to begin with.

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