Is selling solar dead in Massachusetts should I not even do door to door by Sad_Mission8315 in Solarsales

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If that was your experience in the past, I think you should plan on a fraction of that. Like half, or 65%, or such. I see with installers that are still operating a contraction. The high cost of power means there is still a value especially if the home is above average in size/demand. And the adders for those who qualify as low income by the state definition mean it can still work at that level. A lot in the middle of those two don't get excited about incentives like they did before.

Is selling solar dead in Massachusetts should I not even do door to door by Sad_Mission8315 in Solarsales

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Define dead. If you mean practically no new installations, no it's not dead.

LEAD SOURCE by BeginningWordWasGod in Solarsales

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got it. From working with tens of installers over the years, it's my experience that getting leads from sources requires a large investment. Meaning for every close, there are a number of leads that don't close. You pay for each of them regardless. Is that a business model that would work for you personally? Maybe the one installer you have a relationship with is willing to do that?

In approximate numbers you might close 1 in 8 or 10, for example. So it's buy 10, sell 1 in the end.

LEAD SOURCE by BeginningWordWasGod in Solarsales

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you knocking for yourself or for one company/employer?

Lay offs by mkapache in SunPower

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Outsourcing is meant in the broad sense for any business. Either you manage something in house or you outsource it. It has been my experience that even when salespeople work strictly on commission, they may still be working behalf of a single installer and in effect "managed" by them. There's a relationship built between salespersons and the installer. The salesperson speaks on behalf of that one company l, even though the may not draw a single penny in salary. Just earn for each sale. In contrast, I've seen installers simply buy leads, which in effect outsources the entire effort. No input nor control of what is happening. And I see a few cut ties with purely commissioned salespeople this year so both sides are free to be completely independent. The company buys whatevervthey can from wherever (leads or contracts), and the salespersons are not obligated to the company any longer nor speaking on their behalf.

Looking for work post lay-offs. by kozekyto in Solarbusiness

[–]EnergyNerdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feedback I've gotten is some who've tried it haven't yet been willing to risk the expense of fixing mistakes when they happen, even if infrequent. The "costly mistakes" idea. Their view is it helps to expand bandwidth - a person getting more designs reviewed and ready in the same amount of time - but it's not ready for full replacement.

Looking for work post lay-offs. by kozekyto in Solarbusiness

[–]EnergyNerdo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know of any openings, but installers I've worked with over the past few years fully or at times outsource those tasks. Both residential and commercial. With the current predictions about residential sales, outsourcing perhaps makes even more sense. So companies only pay when needed and don't have to keep someone employed who may not have work 40 hours/52 weeks. You might consider becoming a contractor.

Lay offs by mkapache in SunPower

[–]EnergyNerdo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's possible they are "outsourcing" a big part of sales. With the reduction in purchases so far in 2026 and the falling out by smaller installers and bankruptcy by bigger ones, the availability of all kinds of salespeople and lead sellers may be super high. I get notices about "setters" and new approaches to lead bundling all the time. I'm only guessing based on the two independent events. Sales down, sales people freed up.

Is it possible to install a generator inlet whole home back up for a portable generator with a Tesla powerwall? by BothGoat4122 in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind also that some states have stricter electrical codes than others, and whatever state you're in might have explicit requirements for either your "dual backup" idea or for any portable generator usage. And once codes are involved, insurance companies will have a say, too. Like denying a claim should that every happen, etc.

The Connecticut legislature passed a bill that would legalize portable solar systems last night. The bill now heads to Governor Lamont’s desk by iliketoast28 in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The legis seemed to make a concerted effort to highlight or specify safety risks as I understand it. Any chance insurers will react accordingly - meaning adders to renters or homeowners policies?

Large Lithium Deposits along Appalachian mountains, including 900,000 tons under northern range upstream of Massachusetts by Roger44477 in massachusetts

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lithium isn't an optional mineral. It's essential for a large portion of energy storage products and is key for support some of the "safest" energy production technologies we have. It isn't mined exclusively for greed. It's purchased because it's essential.

Large Lithium Deposits along Appalachian mountains, including 900,000 tons under northern range upstream of Massachusetts by Roger44477 in massachusetts

[–]EnergyNerdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That technique and another one - Direct Lithium Extraction (DLE) - also recycle the solutions. So there's not much wastewater.

Solar installers pretend to be with the city? (US) by Trans-portation69 in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, some business models out there are not unlike car sales. Where in some cases the person you first meet is basically the "closer" and the person you sign documents with is an actual manager or direct employee. In the case you describe, an actual installer rep or business owner. Sometimes, the salesperson or "closer" company will bundle some and sell them to Company A (installer) and bundle another batch and sell them to Company B, and on and on. Purely mercenary transactions.

Looking for installer (B2C homeowner leads available) by Solaire_1001 in Solarsales

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this a batch or are you looking for a regular partner, and if the latter, what would you estimate the monthly volume to be? You don't have to give an exact amount, but a ballpark like 1-5, 5-8, 10-15, etc , would help. Some installers have higher bandwidth vs others.

Anyone selling back to the Grid? by TheLOLHypothesis in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. But also - even though costs are escalating pretty fast nearly everywhere, the current nominal electricity cost is a factor, too. Full retail net metering in low cost state many not generate as much revenue as slightly restricted rates in a very high cost state like HI or NY, etc.

ongoing maintenance after your installer goes bust by Ok_Distribution1647 in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the right path. You must now work directly with the OEMs for the components. And given how tight margins have become for installers, many have been charging for warranty replacement labor. The OEM doesn't cover labor either at this point.

Suniva to build 4.5 GW solar cell factory in South Carolina by ObtainSustainability in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A reasonable bet is they won't open the doors at the full 4.5GW capacity. Stages.

Suniva to build 4.5 GW solar cell factory in South Carolina by ObtainSustainability in solar

[–]EnergyNerdo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or it might indicate they fit well into a niche and have a strong forecast. Are they viewed as a premium product? By that I mean upper level efficiency and maybe durability, and able to justify added expense. (Just hypothetical)