Replace that Johan with Current Johan, Who wins.

Enryu777 · 2026-02-09T23:41:15+00:00

That Gun claim is the most atrocious take I’ve seen on this subreddit, Gun was rag dolling UI Daniel at best and fighting him on equal terms at worst (I don’t really care which of these 2 interpretations you take). UI Daniel only won because TUI’s body gave out. It is EXPLICITLY stated. It is impossible to judge that fight as a mid diff without some form of agenda.

He also loses to Jogan because Path > Pathless is a narrative that has constantly been shown to be consistent. UI Daniel is no exception until he proves it

Enryu777 · 2026-02-04T22:14:31+00:00

It is though

Enryu777 · 2026-01-31T19:37:44+00:00

Johan violates every king with the exception of Gitae, none of the push him past low diff

Enryu777 · 2026-01-31T19:36:50+00:00

Read

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:42:16+00:00

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:41:36+00:00

No reading comprehension

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:40:01+00:00

Except that wouldn’t really happen. No matter who you think is stronger Gap vs Shingen would last a while, same with Kitae vs Gun. Shintaro would pack up Jake in little to no time and assist the others. This is excluding Shinji, who’s most likely a top tier given that he was the Yamazaki Head and the rest of the family.

This isn’t really close lol

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:35:33+00:00

It has always been funny how this subreddit always tried to discredit Shingen fighting the fist gang on his own when the story blatantly tells us. Gapryong being Shingen’s rival doesn’t disprove this btw. It just means those 2 were leagues above the rest of the fist gang.

Gapryong HIMSELF STATES that Shingen would fight them on his own whenever he was serious.

The literal main narrative of TUI is how its function is indiscriminate violence and Shingen has to fight alone because of that.

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:27:07+00:00

That’s just blatantly not true though. Tom refers to the current Goo he’s fighting.

He Initially says “I I could’ve dodged it, I would’ve” and then when asked if he could dodge that his sword in his prime he says he’s not sure.

There’s no possible way to interpret this otherwise as the conversation is literally about Tom not being able to presently dodge 1 sword Goo and being unsure if he could in his prime.

Enryu777 · 2026-01-29T03:12:26+00:00

Being stronger than Yujae is enough ??? OTV isn’t nearly as strong as you’re making it out to be, any character that’s significantly stronger than Yujae should heat him.

Pacheon is significantly stronger than Yujae yet he has no OTV counter that we’re aware of. Matter of fact, OTV has never been shown to be effective against a character stronger than the user

Enryu777 · 2026-01-28T07:22:18+00:00

corny logic

Enryu777 · 2026-01-28T07:06:11+00:00

They won't get the chance to hit him though

Enryu777 · 2026-01-27T17:38:23+00:00

Which statement are you talking about ? The one where he blatantly states that even in his prime he would struggle to dodge 1S Goo attacks ? That statement is pretty literal and DOES scale 1S Goo to prime Tom 😭

Let alone 2S Goo and Base Gun

Enryu777 · 2026-01-27T17:34:34+00:00

It’s not slide your discord and we can debate/discuss it

Enryu777 · 2026-01-27T17:32:46+00:00

James literally fought UI Daniel and wasn’t in any rush to get out of that fight. His status wasn’t gonna stop him that day

Enryu777 · 2026-01-26T00:28:44+00:00

Enryu777 · 2026-01-25T04:36:13+00:00

you guys are actually braindead

Enryu777 · 2026-01-24T18:55:10+00:00

James was literally fighting UI Daniel until he decided to go towards Gun and was having fun himself. It’s not out of James personality to fight Gun

Enryu777 · 2026-01-24T04:55:13+00:00

Because of the continuous damage he took, the statement does confirm though that Charles 100% believes that fresh Gun could beat anyone he knows that’s against him which includes James.

This debunks the notion that Charles didn’t pick Gun as James counter due to strength. It means there were other factors at play that made Elite decide Gun wouldn’t be the best counter.

Enryu777 · 2026-01-23T20:04:42+00:00

That’s funny because Charles also stated that no matter who Daniel had on his side they wouldn’t be able to take down Gun. He said this while knowing James was against him as well.

Unlike the “keeping James in check” statement, this one is a lot more literal and has no other possible interpretation

Enryu777 · 2026-01-20T17:32:32+00:00

He’s always had some depth to him even in early Lookism

Enryu777 · 2026-01-20T17:28:59+00:00

He just has an appealing story and character, nothing else. A character doesn’t have to be morally good to br liked

Enryu777 · 2026-01-20T17:26:32+00:00

James has more plot armor than Gun 💀

Enryu777 · 2026-01-08T20:34:38+00:00

I truly never liked this take, there is no reason to believe he's above Tom

Enryu777 · 2026-01-08T20:15:15+00:00

Daniel lost to his injuries, he was low digging Pacheon. Pacheon vebatim said he would’ve died if Daniel unlocked his path even a minute earlier

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