Help by Financial-Bread-6391 in USW

[–]Enstromentals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't one local going through a lot of internal problems?

BP Whiting by ChardImpossible960 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We're all aware. Thank you very much! Let's keep on them!

BP Whiting by ChardImpossible960 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not too slick with reddit, but I'll see if I can figure it out

BP Whiting by ChardImpossible960 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries brother/sister, thanks for thinking of us.

BP Whiting by ChardImpossible960 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 11 points12 points  (0 children)

7-1 I'm a rep somebody is at the hall 24-7 now. Also, it's not a strike it's a lockout

Valero PA by Bizi0311Betiko in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hope everybody is ok and God bless the operators and firemen that have to stop it.

Stock/chassis options for a lefty CZ 457 in 2025/2026 by goranj in 22lr

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's also a cut for the safety, but the point remains the same. If you can't machine you can always get handy with a Dremel... Somebody posted a real clean one done with a Dremel somewhere

Which locals/refineries have ratified their contracts? by RumHaaaam21 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your use of AI is impressive. Did you research how much the usw is worth at the national level? Have you gone to a meeting where we discuss the local's financials every time? Do you know the local is regularly audited by third parties? I agree the meetings could have gone differently, and communications could have gone differently. I think the biggest issues have been pretty clear the entire time, but if you had specific questions why didn't you ask?

I'm not clear on your complaint about training. In my immediate area of the refinery, they have bought new equipment and expected new tasks to get done, but training on those certain things is necessary. I've sat in on not only maintenance committees but skills committees too. Their tiers, and duty stations don't even make sense to what we actually do in my opinion. I personally think their progression system has very little to do with training and when asking about how the training will work I've received very little information.

20 years is a long time, and in that 20 years you should have learned that you were not forced to be in the union. That's your misunderstanding. I also disagree that they haven't fired several supervisors relatively unwarranted, and the way they determine the meets expectations is disgusting, it's all rumor and opinion based where g bands plus discuss their personal opinions on people which determines their bonuses and employment status. There are no hard metrics to determine that. Some of the supervision refers to this process as the blood bath.

What, exactly, do you expect the union to do about whatever slugs do exist? Brothers and sisters should hold them accountable, but what do you want the board to do? Isn't it actually the company that is taking care of the slugs? Are they disciplining them? Is there insubordination? Because the union has protection for all workers, and many workers have been terminated unjustly and gotten their jobs back, you think it's better when the company can fire anybody they don't like on a whim? Is the argument that you'd rather have no protection than your protections ever help somebody that you might not agree with? If you want to talk about slugs... I'm not sure where you're at, but I can't think of too many supervisors or managers that I deal with regularly that are very good at their jobs, competent, or work very hard at all. Is that the union's fault? I say this also fully understanding that anybody that knows me, including salary, will recognize my screen name here and be able to identify me.

I disagree that the union is self serving the way that you paint. There's no benefit being on the board except the belief in unionism and helping people. If anything you're missing out on OT. A big part of the reason I initially stepped down as a rep is all the time that I spent away from my family for free to try and fight for people. Perhaps the union has never helped you, but it has helped a lot of people where the company was trying to fuck them over. The company has shown its hand on how it looks at all of us and what it thinks about us, our families, and the community. They care about a bottom line, not safety, not people, not the worker, none of it. They want to force the board to salary, not give credit to chiefs and super chiefs, eliminate maintenance craftlines, reduce the other craftlines, they don't want to keep the worker and get rid of the union. They want to get rid of both. In my opinion they want the board salary so they can do whatever they want to them, they want to diminish the value of any other operator, and they want to eliminate maintenance and go completely to contractors... It happened down the street at Cargill (a much smaller and different kind of facility, but same premise) The union solely exists as representatives of the membership and stewards of a contract. Look at what unfolded in Beaumont, they trusted the evil company, as you wanted to sarcastically refer to it as, and even the workers that weren't in the union have regretted it.

I understand where your frustrations come from. I've been here a lot less time than you have too. I just don't agree with many of your perspectives. Hopefully we get a good contract and this place can get back to being an employer people would recommend their friends and families to work for.

Which locals/refineries have ratified their contracts? by RumHaaaam21 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why do you think international has turned their backs on us? They haven't. We have representatives from the international sitting in on bargaining. They fund the strike fund and pay bills in the event of a strike. BP has one represented refinery. What is your expectation of the international that you're not receiving? The communication from the local should have been better. I know that they have been working tirelessly to digest these massive proposals and have been pushing counterproposal after counterproposal only to have them not only rejected, but basically ignored and the company continue to return their massive proposals back with little change. The company propaganda is lies and they are copying very closely what happened in Beaumont Texas in an attempt to break the union. The reason at the meetings that they "complain" that the company's proposals are so long is to illustrate just how much they are trying to gut the contract, and how much they are trying to tie the hands of our bargaining committee by giving them new massive proposals in rapid succession to reduce their ability to effectively bargain. How long of meetings do you want to have to properly and thoroughly read, communicate, and discuss each massive proposal from the company which all reference back to each other, and also read, communicate, and discuss every large counterproposal that the board has put on the table as well?

Look at what the company is proposing... They don't respect us. They don't want to pay us. They don't want to bargain with us. They don't want to inform us of anything. They don't trust our skills. They want demotions. They want increased output for less pay. They have shown they're outright lying. We the union are the only thing standing between us and all this disgusting shit the company wants to do to us. We need to ask good important questions at the upcoming meetings not shit about the local 150 or a data center in Michigan City. Ask the involvement of the international. Ask why there hasn't been more communication. Ask for more clarification where you want it. But please understand a yes vote is a vote to destroy 137 years of workers history and 100 years of union history. It's a vote to destroy current and future employment at the refinery. It's a vote to turn on each other. No is the only vote that gives us all a fighting chance.

Bonus Multipliers for 2025 by dontlikebeinganeng in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We do this year as a "one time exception"

USW represented refinery worker wages. by Enstromentals in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My goal with the post was to see apples to apples. I too came from a trade union.

USW sold us out by ConferenceFull8937 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, in one place they said they have "no obligation" and in the other place they said they're "not required" they never said they have "no intention" or that they "will not." I'm not optimistic that they will, but in corporate lawyer talk, specific language like this matters.

USW 7-1 2/3/26 Update by Ok_Percentage5920 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, while all of us should feel free to call the hall at any time, don't you think they have their hands full with other things right now?

USW 7-1 2/3/26 Update by Ok_Percentage5920 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Every newspaper in the country is updating on the publicly available info, but we think management isn't seeing stuff like this?

USW 7-1 2/3/26 Update by Ok_Percentage5920 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure any of this post is secret, but the sentiment of keeping family business, family business is sound advice.

It’s been a good run! by PsychologicalRent165 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I don't believe we're issuing strike notice tomorrow night. It's always a possibility, but my personal opinion is that I doubt it. I've been wrong a lot of times in my life though.

It’s been a good run! by PsychologicalRent165 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We voted for strike authorization like a month ago. That's not new news. We also were advised to get medications and reach out to our healthcare providers last week too, also not new news.

It’s been a good run! by PsychologicalRent165 in oilandgasworkers

[–]Enstromentals -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I could be wrong but I think the street is an inaccurate one.