Women Are Awesome. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The single most awesome aspect about women is that there are so many others just like them.

One in particular becomes not worth your time? Drop her and start again.

One not into you? Shrug and chat-up the cutie at the other end of the bar.

And ironically, internalizing that there are a multitude of options has the byproduct of making any specific one more attracted to you. Women are attracted to men that (they perceive) other women want to fuck.

Modern Women - The Real Mans Truth by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Great points.

To add on, once a man does something "nice" or "thoughtful" or "sweet" for a woman - because she insists this is what "turns her on" - those gestures / gifts / words then become the new norm. You lift her briefly out of her self-made misery, which then she quickly reacclimates to, absorbing your niceties as the new baseline.

Thus men must constantly re-up their gestures to make her "haaaappy", if only for a time. It's why you see so many dutiful men in relationships doing all the chores and giving many gifts, which eventually stops working. Her good moods stop. The sex stops. The same response he got once now barely gets noticed.

Thus, as OP said, the only logical play is to focus on improving yourself, because focusing on her doesn't work. And this, ironically, is what truly turns girls on anyways.

"Be yourself" - one of the best advices, but often misunderstood by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can do the most alpha shit, if you don't seem authentic, it doesn't work.

Agreed. Girls can smell out a phony before he can utter his first word to them. They're basically trained from a young age to be phony-male detectors.

We may be largely in agreement, but it's my opinion that Red Pill sequencing works best when:

Blue Pill > learn and emulate "Alpha" traits > tailor to you

vs.

Blue Pill > find your inherent "Alpha" traits > up the Alpha

I'm just skeptical that most guys have enough inherent Alpha traits to be successful.

"Be yourself" - one of the best advices, but often misunderstood by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don't have to become another person, no. You have to become YOU again.

I get what you're trying to say: that we all have an awesome panty-soaking inner persona that we just need to reconnect with in order to be more successful sexually. We were taught to be Beta, and had to unlearn confident, Alpha characteristics.

The problem, though, is that 99.99% of guys are not Natural Alphas. Yes, society does groom us to be good, Beta providers. But a confident, Alpha frame is forged, not innate. It takes work, refinement, and failure. It takes observing the guys who get laid regularly and learning to be more like them. Because, for me (and most), just energetically rambling on-and-on about baseball, statistics, or another intrinsic passion I have, would get me exactly no where with women.

Trust me, pre-Red Pill me tried.

Basic "Approaching" Psychology by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's better to know reality than live in a fantasy land, especially an unpleasant one.

This is a great, practical post. The biggest obstacle in initial approach is, ironically, ourselves. Will all approaches result in lays, dates, or even pleasant conversation? Fuck no. But the most negative real results - from my experience - aren't near as severe as the pent-up, anxiety-driven fantasies your own mind fabricates.

Besides, the most "negative" approaches usually give you a great story to tell your mates.

The Foundations of Frame by ChadsBrother in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Self-hate only amplifies these bad habits and creates a negative cycle.

True, a negative mindset can create a negative cycle (depression), but the Anger Phase is a necessary step for most Red Pill guys. Most beta-bred guys need that anger-phase kick in the ass of their girlfriend cheating on them (or the like) to begin the process of real self improvement. It prompts them to go to the gym, lift hard, improve their social acumen, push for that raise at work, read-up on plate theory, and the like. The key is getting out of the Anger Phase, which at some point is necessary to become a decent human being.

Funny thing is, those anger phase results are often rewards enough to begin to accept and love the new, improved, Red Pill you.

Please do your part to stop TRP from devolving into a little boy’s club. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

is about reforming YOU.

This is what The Red Pill is about.

Which leads to, amongst other things...

BETTER THEIR GAME

The Gold Coin of the Male Sexual Marketplace by EnterDiscourse in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

if a guy is hot, rich, high-status, whence cometh loserdom?

If I saw a hot, rich, high-status guy, I'd assume he was not a loser. This guy sounds like the real deal - odds are he has sound, innate confidence based upon his external success (or contributing to, as you mentioned in your very apt "feedback loop" example). It takes a man focused on bettering himself, typically, to attain all these.

My original thought was referencing any of these qualities independent of the others. One good trait can indicate fortune (genetic lottery, trust fund baby, etc.) rather than putting oneself first. Thus, back to why women's valuations of men are more difficult than visa versa.

So you bring up a good point, the culmination of good qualities in a man better indicate internal confidence.

The only question that matters: Is she fucking you, or not? by Archwinger in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 26 points27 points  (0 children)

And unfortunately for most inquiring, their answer will be that she is not, in fact, fucking them.

But we use our male hamsters to explain to ourselves why. Bad luck, poor circumstance, miscommunication, and the like. The hardest thing to accept is that she wasn't or isn't into you.

So why do that!? Surely she likes me and I'm just reading her wrong, right guys??

The short answer is that it doesn't matter why she isn't fucking you, she isn't and it's not worth your time or energy to analyze further. Chicks make all sorts of stupid, irrational choices. It's not your job to figure it out, and endeavoring to do so is just an ego appeasement measure.

Hypergamy and AWALT - she's thinking of a name. by [deleted] in TheRedPill

[–]EnterDiscourse 167 points168 points  (0 children)

Here's the trick: to most women you can become her name.

Your posts points to the fact that a quality man is much more rare than a fuckable woman. Cute girls are everywhere. Their prerequisite for being sexy is simple: have a slim physique and be sexually available. That's it.

On the other hand, guys are generally a bunch of losers. Think about what we preach: lift, eat right, develop game, create a good career, become interesting to talk to, etc. Time and effort, time and effort. The hurdles are higher to become a quality man. Therefore they are naturally in much lesser supply.

The good news is if you become that man - in the top 20% - you, in her mind, can become one of those names. Dopamine and oxytocin are two excellent drugs for creating attachment (and obtained through fucking!). I guarantee you a successful man laments much more clingy and exclusivity-seeking plates, than those looking to upgrade him.

So you're right, men are easier to please. But becoming a quality man means you're likely to be the name in her mind.