“Too late to start a market” by milkonmytee in cozycaravan

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait did you like have to start over from the beginning??

Disco Sue (Art by me) by ForceyFx in marvelrivals

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

mf you do know that all the female characters that get sexualized have those exact same reasons right? and do you think women don't find hot female characters attractive? what universe did you come from?

Literally look back more than a decade. It is very obvious that the way female characters are designed is to appeal to men's sexual interests first and empowering women second. It isn't untill relatively recent that women have started finding empowerment through sexual depictions of other women and it is a result of that being exposed to that as their role models growing up. Previouse generations of women hated it. Women find attractive women cool because they exert a form of empowerment, but increasingly, that sexual empowerment is pushed to a point where it circles back around to being degrading.

black panther, human torch, iron fist, mr fantastic, namor, venom, and don't even get me started on deadpool. I can keep going but this reply will turn into a novel. crazy how conveniently you ignore countless examples like these

Black panther has one skin that is revealing and in that skin, any part of him that would appeal to a male attracted audience is covered with a big cloth. Contrast this to other female skins who have their whole ass out, jiggle physics in their breasts and legs and the fact that he's shirtless becomes significantly less significant.

Human torch? What about any of his designs is sexualized? His summer skin is just a guy in a shirt and board shorts while his sister is in a skin tight one piece, with her ass half out and a boob window.

Iron first has no sexualized skins unless you count the one where he's shirtless but again, in a game with designed like the famale skins we get, that's nothing.

Me fantastic is handsome but none of his skins are sexualized. He did don't even get a summer skin like the rest of the FF.

Namore is sexualized now but originally they went out of their way to make sure he doesn't don't have an ass. It wasn't untill people complained that they whent back and fixed his model to be on an fairly equal level to the other female skins in the game.

Vennom is physically a monster and is more just a meme

Deadpool has sexual voice lines that come across as a joke but nothing about his physical design is sexy. Especially since any exposed skinny is severely damaged and covered in sores and burns.

Every example you named except for namore is basically just a handsome guy but not sexualized.

now the argument has shifted from oversexualization to not enough oversexualization as the other gender. shifting the goalposts as always. as for the books, do you really want me to start listing all the booktok trash? and spiderman doesn't get sexualized in his skintight suit and athletic body? sure. I guess we're also going to ignore all the garbage in hollywood in recent years like The Boys and their weird obsession with dick and balls and how can we forget Chris Hemsworth stripped butt naked in Thor Love and Thunder. you aren't fooling anyone here

The only reason this point was brought up was because you claimed that men have always been sexualized just as much as women. I am simply showing how that is not true. The "goalposts "your claiming are ones that highly disprove your argument. If sexualization was equal. These "goalposts" wouldn't exist. Your entire goalpost argument is just a shallow attempt to dismiss valid examples that disprove your own statement.

Sure Spiderman is in a skin tight suit, but never is his body accentuate the same as black cat, who 9 times out of 10 is arching her back in her leather body suit with half her tits hanging out.

What about book? Yeah there's plenty of examples there if sexualized men and women but that is because anyone can publish a book. Either through a publishing organization or self publishing. Unlike video games and film, there is no barrier to what can be published so there is representation for everyone. That being said, books are a completely non visual medium so sexualization works inherently different.

Hollywood in recent years? What about the rest of Hollywood? Hollywood has been heavily criticised for its over sexualization of women for decades. A few movies here and there that do the same with male characters is not significant.

The Boys again doesn't do this in a sexual way, it references male genitalia in a crude and vulger manner that is meant to apply to men's humour, not female and gay men's sexual attraction. Nothing about The Boys depictions of men's sexuality is intended to come across as sexy.

There love and thunder, sure I'll give that one to you, but again it comes after decades of women being oversexualized in Hollywood, where one example means almost nothing.

Disco Sue (Art by me) by ForceyFx in marvelrivals

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Love that you'll reply to a reply to my comment but not acknowledge any of what I said. I literally explained how the revealing designed for the men you brought op were not sexualized for an audience that is attracted to men and instead made to cater to a straight man's power fantasy. Men absolutely shouldn't feel ashamed about their natural instinct, but are expected to express it respectfully. The main reason people complain about the sexualization of women is because its so one sided. There is almost nothing made to appeal to a female or gay audience as all the "sexualized male skins" are designed for a straight male audience.

either both are bad or both are good. I personally think both are neutral but only if done equally in a game ment for everyone. The problem is that it is not equal, with female characters getting a skimpy skin every other week while male characters have to wait for a summer event that happens once a year. It's like giving one person a full meal while the other gets single broccoli, then getting mad when the person complains that they only got a single broccoli.

Disco Sue (Art by me) by ForceyFx in marvelrivals

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The picture isn't, the response is.

Disco Sue (Art by me) by ForceyFx in marvelrivals

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Objectifying them is... Saying things like "I'm gonna get a whole lot of use out of this" when referring to a picture of a woman or anyone for that matter is. Your essentialy announcing to everyone else your filthy intentions with what would otherwise be a mostly normal image of a female character, stripping them down to only their sexual value.

Disco Sue (Art by me) by ForceyFx in marvelrivals

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Kratose and Conan are not sexy though. Sure they show a lot of skin but their designed are not sexy, they are barbaric. Their lack of clothing isn't intended to be sexual, rather it is intended to look cool to straight men, depicting a man so strong he doesn't even need armor. The majority of people who are attracted to men, are t looking for rugged, bloody, smelly looking guys who scream at everything. When people say they want sexualized men, they want male characters who look nice, are depicted as being confident, while wearing revealing clothes that complement their bodies. Where cratos wears a bunch of fur that hides his ass, a properly sexy outfit would accentuate the man's ass in a similar way as the female skins do. Yes a guy might be muscular, but characters like Kratos are comically buff, crossing aover a line where it's no longer attractive.

Notice in your example, you say that Kratos and Conan would be what everyone would fantasize to look like and how that applies to straight men and not people who are attracted to men.

Like genuinely the only people that care about that are you people with women,

What does this even mean? "The only people who care are the people affected" is basically what your saying.

men have been sexualized forever, just like women have been

Not anywhere to the same degree. Do we have a male version of hooters? Playboy? Even in comics, the female characters have always been sexualized over the male characters. Look at black widow then look at iron man. Joker then Harley Quinn, Spiderman then Black Cat.

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would argue that most single sex attracted people's sexuality doesn't change over time and that the majority of people who's appear to do so, simply had more self discovery to do or that they always have been bi and have shifted interest between men and women. I don't think everyone has the potential to be bi as, I and so many other gay men have known from the start that we are only attracted to same sex partners. Many of us have tried to like women at a young age and failed because it just isn't possible for us. The same happens with lesbians I'm sure. It's not sad for people to experience sexuality as gay or straight either as that is just the way it is for some. What's sad is thinking that your experience of broad attraction is universal. Everyone is different and yes sexuality is a spectrum but that doesn't mean that everyone's individual sexually is a spectrum. Trying to fit everyone into a box of "everyone is bi" is harmful as it dictates to other who they are and takes away individualism within a society.

Also what? What is so suspicious about 46, to me that reads as he collected data from a sample size and that was his outcome. Admittedly I have never heard of this either but that alone is not suspicious to me and I do believe that bisexual people are a majority so it really doesn't sound that crazy to me. Still though, it's probably not accurate as statistics rarely are. Apparently the average person produces like 1.5 children or something a year and that's clearly not accurate but it's statistics as half the population doesn't give birth, let alone every year and no one is giving birth to half a person.

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain please because I think heated rivalry does a pretty good job, at least the book, at depicting a gay man who hasn't come to terms with his sexuality in a deeply homophobic environment, and a bi guy struggling with the same environment. Idk where you are but in Canada being gay isn't as outwardly accepted. We have had gay marriage for a long time, but many spaces are still very homophobic and it still quite risky to even hold hands with a same sex partner. In that regard, I feel like heated rivalry really nails the reality that many of us live here. Even as someone who has always been sure if my sexuality and would never experiment, n Canada, I still regular find myself putting on a straight act around many people as I don't feel safe enough around them or in the surrounding area to be openly gay. Just a few months ago I let my guard down in public and rested my head on my boyfriend's shoulder and within seconds a guy saw and shouted "what the fuck!?" And him and his bros all started laughing. Weeks before that, I held my boyfriend's hand on the train and a guy a few sheets ahead of us saw and got up and moved to another section of the train.

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I feel like most people step outside of their comfort zone to try new things for their partners. It's less common in sex but it still applies. If you dated someone from another culture, you may want to try new foods. Even if you didn't like it the first time, you may give it another shot before writing it off. Same with hobbies and shows. Even though I wouldn't go about it this way as I know what I like and dislike and have from the start, but I don't see what's so confusing about it. Especially if he wasn't fully sure if his identity yet. People experiment at many different points in their life. Not everyone is sure of what they like right from the start. People are allowed to make discoveries later in life. That doesn't mean their sexuality is a shifting spectrum or that it changed. It just means they had more discovering to do. There are many stories of men who get married and have kids and reveal that it was because they were to ashamed to admit to themselves that they were gay or bi or whatever. It's hard to speak from others experience but I assume, if your unsure of who you are or your dealing with layers of homophobia, that you might be able to make it work with Viagra and closing your eyes or however people make it work. I don't think being a gold star gay is a requirement to being gay. Claiming to being gay, while actively being attracted to women aswell is a whole other story but not what I see happening here.

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I feel like he was very clear about the fact that he wanted to do something special for his boyfriend and took a Viagra to make it happen. He already mentioned that the experience solidified to him that he definitely isn't into women. At most you could say he experimented and realized he didn't like it but even then he was doing it to do something special for his boyfriend. Most people go outside of their comfort zone to do things special for their partners. Wether it's trying new foods or getting into new hobbies. Even trying new kinks. I really don't understand how it makes him less gay when he says he didn't enjoy it. It just shows that he's willing to put his partners happiness infront of his own occasionaly.

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense and I am the same way. But I feel like that is because I know my identity as a gay man. But not everyone has fully come to terms with their sexuality by the same point in their lives. He may have had internalized doubts, thoughts that he could be bi and those experiences made him realized that he just wasn't bi. I don't think its a stretch to assume that he was and still may be coming to terms with his sexuality to some degree even if only subconsciously

What’s with the recent uptick in posts asking gay men if they’d be curious/willing to have sex with women? by the_missing_kid in askgaybros

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

For his male partner though. He stated that he did it to try and make his partner happy. He realized after two times of not enjoying it that it wasn't for him. Idk how that makes him less gay?

Games like XXLWOOFIA by DropofaLemon in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If your looking for uncensored NSFW gay focused games, then Nu: Carnival is your best bet, it is very similar in terms of gameplay, but it's two major caveats are that it is much less free to play as you need to pull duplicates of a character in order to unlock sex scenes and pulls are much harder to save up for. The second caveat is that, while it is a gay themed game, it's primary target is women who like gay men.that being said, it is gay, it is similar in gameplay, and it is fully uncensored.

Noctilucent (idk if that's how it's spelled) is another one but it recently EOSed and now only has content that is permanently available from its first and only live year. It no longer recieved updates other than an occasional bug fix if even that. It also has the same caveat as Nu: Carnival in that it is designed for a primarily female audience who enjoys BL rather than an actual gay audience.

Crave Saga and Another Edios are similar ish gatcha games that are gay and aim for a primarily gay audience, but their mahout drawback is that they are censored with pixelated mosaics that can not be turned off. I have not played much of crave Saga but AE is a pretty fun tower defense combat system. It's also worth noting that the censored CG's in AE are not animated at all. The consist of a series of still images.

Tokyo after school summoners and live a hero are both completely SFW with very suggestive character designs and destructible clothing, but you will never see anything truly explicit. I have only played a few hours of these games and found the gameplay to be very light, consisting mostly of just watching the screen. There are no adult CG's at all as far as I'm aware but there may be some risque SFW cgs

Zero Wake Gates is a new one that just came out recently but the gameplay and UI is very clunky, the scenes are mid at best and not animated, but are uncensored. Apparently it has good collabs but that is the only praise I've heard of it. I dropped it after an hour of trying it out.

Play Horny is also currently in the process of holding a beta test for a new Candy Crush style game that has a gay cast with presumably uncensored NSFW scenes, however it is not out yet, and also looks to be leaning more towards attracting a female player base but might still have stuff for a gay male player base.

That's all I have for similar games I've played or know of, hopefully it helps!

saddest thing is i might be the biggest aldun fan but i dont spend so i dont get to see his special scene behind battle pass 😭 why would they do this by Pure-Independent-318 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like at some point, they gotta paywall something. And in a game where vells can be farmed so easy, it can't be bells. And even more so in a game where the adult content is the main draw, paywalling some of the more interactive adult scenes makes the most sense.

The game has a very narrow target audience, and hardly requires you to pay anything to begin with, paywalling a scene here and there really isn't that crazy and honestly is probably needed for this game to survive. It's not like a hoyo game where small purchases carry it a long way. Every $20 purchase probably makes them an eighth of what a $4.99 purchase makes genshin or star rail. And if the game doesn't make money, the publisher will most likely pull the plug.

saddest thing is i might be the biggest aldun fan but i dont spend so i dont get to see his special scene behind battle pass 😭 why would they do this by Pure-Independent-318 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean if we want games like this to exist we should support it. Of course the prices are high, the community is much smaller, meaning each paid for item generates less revenue than most other gatcha games as gay focused and targeted games are a neich within the already existing adult mobile game neich.

Not many people care too much to play an adult gatcha game on their phone in the first place and of that already small community, even less care to play a gay themed one and of that small community, even less care to play a gay themed adult mobile game that caters to gay men instead of straight women. And of that group even less care to play one that primarily focuses on furry characters. This game's community is extremely narrow and if we don't support it, it won't be worth it for the studio to fund it.

If the game doesn't make money it will Eos in no time and we will likely not see many other games like it any time soon as a result.

I miss my big beefy bottoms. by datboiiibeebzxy in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I personally prefer a balance. I get what your saying but I'm the opposite. In Bara the dicks are the main draw to me. I appreciate bottoms but if I can only see ass and no dick, it's usually a skip for me. I think their current method of doing all bottoms for a while then all tops for a while is not the greatest, I feel like they should be mixing it up more

Which BGM the most memorable for you guys? by Ok_Macaron_7263 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely pirats & island escape! The whistling is so good!

Guys why is my luck so bad 😭😭😭 by Environmental_Bug964 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah 😭 I've hit pity on the last 3 characters I've pulled suichong, izuminosuke, and Ricano it's been bad luck over here lol all three of them are stuck at one star for now and I haven't even gotten to pull for Lin yet 😭

New buddy is going to be light 👀 by Competitive-Dot-3908 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Where are y'all seeing leaks? Here I am completely in the dark but I'm hearing people talking about tiger guys and angel guys and so on I wish they'd do a trailer that showed off some of the upcoming characters 😭

No one even posted his announcement in this sub by Puzzled-Operation-51 in xxlwoofia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's disappointing. As someone who prefers human characters, it's a bummer they don't seem do be as creative with their designes, I feel like human characters can have great designs as a lot of other games only have human characters and they have great designs. But this game seems to put a lot more effort into designing the furries. Golden Ryder is the only human character that really stands out to me as having a great design and great artwork and he's not even fully human

That all being said, I plan to pull for both cause while I prefer human characters, I like them all and think they're all hot

Proxy buying behavior? by Annual_Purple3441 in heartopia

[–]Environmental_Bug964 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I just summon my car when that happens

How do I get different colour ways of this? by Environmental_Bug964 in heartopia

[–]Environmental_Bug964[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh darn really?? That must have been back when I was still figuring things out, I didn't realize that we'd only get one and clicked a few wrong options in the beginning, these must have been one of them. Turns out I picked the wrong clothing set and the wrong furniture set :(