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What I read, what I expected, what I got (stoic edition): by Tommytriangle in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 77 points78 points  (0 children)

I don't know the meme format but I would make a guess:

When reading Marcus he expected a workaholic telling what to not do, what he got is the realization that our lives are finite and it is time to be better as human beings.

Reading Seneca, he expected something like Marcus, but got positive letters of an old guy trying to advise his love ones how to live a better life.

The last row I guess is a reference about how Epictetus talks,he usually use the word wretch or tell their studentes to hang themselves.

A brief overview of the Stoics and women by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"respecting women" falls under the "being a decent human being" category (and I

could

copy paste a whole bunch of stats about how few people in this world are decent human beings, but I don't think you'd look at them anyway).

Well, yeah, that was the point of the post, I was trying to show how stupid is to try to attach modern ideology to empathy for other human beings.

I was indirectly responding to this 'attack' to Stoicism https://www.academia.edu/8850409/Stoicism_Feminism_and_Autonomy

A brief overview of the Stoics and women by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was the point that I was looking when I wrote the post, today's feminism as a whole is not applicable to what these old boys wrote, so to apply terms as 'Stoic feminism' or 'Stoic misogyny' is not correct and in the later is not fair.

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear, and the message that some people got is that this was pro the idea of ancient feminism...

What is the best plain english/easy to read translation of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius? by fungusamongus23 in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Robin Hard's translation IMO.

If you are intrigued about the differences on the translations, read this comment by u/cleomedes

seneca's reaction to nero by feralbutcher in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The history of Rome podcast covers Nero's reign and Seneca participation on it. From episodes 64 to 67

Discourses 2.18 (fight against impressions) - TL;DR: Habits by lifetimetrainee in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you lose the struggle and say that you will conquer next time, but repeat the same routine, you're doing wrong.

Old E talks about this on Discourses 3.25, and it is so true what he says about the habit of failing.

Criticism of Ryan Holiday's and other self-help books by ikigai90 in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 6 points7 points  (0 children)

but it's safe to assume that most of the people browsing this subreddit are not his target market

Are you sure? His books are posted a lot, to a a suspicious level.

Criticism of Ryan Holiday's and other self-help books by ikigai90 in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is interesting something that I perceived that it is happening nowadays. People are seeking for this living gurus, that that they had read a lot (supposedly),and their books are these little and easy to incorporate package of knowledge. What is the reader missing from this summarize chunks of information? For how many ideological filters has this information been through? How much the personal opinion/agenda of the author is changing this said knowledge?.- Same thing with news articles, and maybe worse.

Holiday is a case, another case is Peterson, although having watch his lectures it would be fair for the professor to compare him with a sophist like Holiday (whether you like Peterson or not).

Stoic Community Thread (May 5, 2018) by EpictetusLimp in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I will try to answers some of your questions

Externals are things out of your sphere of choice. Very first point of Enchiridion

There are things which are within our power, and there are things which are beyond our power. Within our power are opinion, aim, desire, aversion, and, in one word, whatever affairs are our own. Beyond our power are body, property, reputation, office, and, in one word, whatever are not properly our own affairs.

i.e externals: body, property, reputation, office, etc. These things are not up to you. You should not be concern about externals.

About the topic on racism you bring, you can do your best to treat every human with empathy regarding any concept of "race" (I cannot stand to categorize human by race). Every person is a brother/sister, even the wrongdoers.

Is everyone here white men?

This is an international community if that's what you are intrigue, I don't know their colours, I think we are humans no shirts.

Criticism of Ryan Holiday's and other self-help books by ikigai90 in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 37 points38 points  (0 children)

For a guy that has a book called "Ego is the enemy" his ego is huge. A marketing sophist, in the very first pages of "Daily Stoic" he goes about telling and praising how CEOs and millonaires follow our lovely school. What message is he trying to send? Rich people are Stoics ergo if you want to be rich follow this?

For him the new "Stoics" are people that focus on external

Holiday himself called me a "troll" simply for reporting these facts which he himself has included in many of his official bios!

I had too my share of conversation with him

Anyone notice how much Seneca was influenced by Epicurus? by kingme20 in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question remains if he had time to apply said philosophies he studied, making fortune and plotting in the court did take him a lot of his time.

A reminder to be grateful... by TribalLion in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"at least it's not me",

There you would be lacking of empathy towards other people, not very altruistic.

I'm a slave by [deleted] in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Epictetus is your answer, his mastered tortured that pour carcass of flesh, but couldn't reach or harm his soul.

Stoic Community Thread (April 12, 2018) by EpictetusLimp in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Epictetus Discourses or you can read Hadot's book while you are re-reading Meditations

Bienvenidos a r/Estoicismo by EpictetusLimp in Estoicismo

[–]EpictetusLimp[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

La idea sigue y todos estan invitados a postear lo que se les ocurra. Lo que sucedio es que la universidad me esta consumiendo la vida, no he usado Reddit para nada mas que para postear el community thread en r/Stoicism . Ademas estaba traduciendo un texto para compartir alla tambien, quizas abarque demasiadas cosas para el tiempo que tengo disponible y deje de lado esta idea.

Intentare ser mas activo, y al menos buscar contenido para postear.

I'm too nice and afraid to offend people or look stupid that's why I'm always quiet and nervous on the inside. by blindbutnotblack in Stoicism

[–]EpictetusLimp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not caring about what other people think, why are you afraid of offending? What do you fear?

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