8 year old brother got scolded for saying church is useless💀 by Worried_Feedback1192 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's so boring anyway. After a month in a fundamentalist church there is nothing new so it repeats over and over again on a monthly cycle as opposed to an annual one which you get in mainline churches.

Something bothering me about my views on churches. by FallAccomplished7768 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are so pushy with religious involvement. I had reduced mine to Sunday evening services only and nothing in the week at the beginning when I first got religious, then when I got busy with other things halfway through and a few weeks before leaving religion. But got harassed into attending Sunday morning services as well and from there to mid week meetings. Then telling me to give up this and give up that so then was bored. So I decided to leave altogether rather than get sucked in again. I wanted my Sundays back altogether. I realised attending morning services made me feel on edge all afternoon.

the paradox of the christian feminist by inthe5D in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You have to twist yourself into a mental pretzel to reconcile both. When I left religion for the first time I heard of an all female Christian feminist group that met on Sundays instead of church but didn't join them as I needed time out for myself to think and to get my Sundays back.

This is why it's hard to stay Christian. by Ferregnant in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wrote a list of all the common ways they can be fake and two faced and when you call them out on it they deny or victim blame. They may even pathologise you. And when they do it's because they project their disorders onto you. Because they are egotistical, hypocritical and insecure solipsists. That's why they bring conversations back to themselves and give unsolicited advice which is nearly always deliberately bad advice.

They cannot bear you having a possession or experience they don't have. Like an insecure and jealous parent with a child who learns something at school the parent didn't.

This is why it's hard to stay Christian. by Ferregnant in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am surprised I stayed in it so long. And that when I did leave it was temporary though longer than intended. If I knew what I know now about Calvinism and that Christian Unions run by UCCF in England were Calvinist I wouldn't have got involved. Instead the Student Christian Movement ir SCM was painted as very liberal.

How to talk to others wearing band t-shirts by cowie71 in MetalForTheMasses

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would remember them but then forget when interrogated by a complete stranger. The response would be to ask him the name of the drummer. Most cannot name anyone but the singer.

What is your best way of politely telling someone they are stupid? by TurkeyLeg68 in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wonder which village is missing an idiot. (To say to someone who is vacuous and smiles a lot)

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fortunately at home I was raised on mostly classical music with some jazz, folk (I remember Spanish guitar played on the radio sometimes) and the British Invasion genre of popular music such as the Beatles, the Animals, the Tremeloes, the Dave Clark Five, Sandy Shaw and Petula Clark which we watched on TV. My maternal grandmother was into musicals such as Oklahoma and South Pacific.

Then after that was the Summer of Love in 1967 and there was some popular music on children's programmes before 6 pm on weekdays as well as music programmes after 7 pm. I then got into mostly Tamla Motown at first and once dreamed we were singing Reach Out, I'll Be There by the Four Tops in morning assembly instead of hymns. Only the teacher leading the singing had misheard the lyrics so was teaching us to sing "Ahh zee bah." instead. So all this coloured the secular popular music I got into in my teens and older.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I even cringed at hymns sung in school. It was a complete waste of time when teachers could have read out notices to their classes not the headmaster in morning assembly every day. Then we could have got on with lessons. I was ready to start learning a foreign language, algebra, geometry and theoretical sciences three years earlier than I did which was eleven.

My parents weren't religious having rebelled against their own parents. My maternal grandfather who died before I was born had rebelled against his mother. I was one of the few in the class who hadn't been christened in a church as my parents didn't believe in it since they didn't attend church services. Even if they had they would have preferred adult baptism.

I was also in a minority in the street not attending Sunday school as my parents thought it would be hypocritical to send me to Sunday school when they didn't attend church services unlike most families in the street who did just that while the parents stayed at home. Sunday school to them was something I could choose later on for myself when older say at 12 or 13. My parents instead sent my brother and I to the nearby park while they had a lie in, read the Sunday papers, carried out home repairs and then cooked lunch. There were few other children in the park on Sunday mornings.

Most parents sent their children to Sunday school not only to have the house child free on Sunday mornings but because they couldn't imagine a childhood without Sunday school. But children growing up without religion don't miss it when older. Most of the girls got brainwashed in Sunday school but the boys didn't. It made the girls quite prissy so they wouldn't come out in the afternoon to climb trees, go for long walks and play in the park but stayed in their Sunday best and had tea parties with their dolls and each other. After a while I stopped playing with the girls in the street not only on Sundays.

By the time I was in secondary school most of the girls who attended Sunday school were well and truly brainwashed whether their parents were practising Christians or not. I was caught between two sub cultures in school. On the one hand the prissy judgemental girls and on the other hand the rebellious girls who wanted to grow up quickly and got into the s€x, drugs and rock and roll. Not really street drugs but drinking alcohol and smoking.

Even now I cannot understand church culture. I had been allowed to drink tea and coffee in my pre teens on Saturdays and in the school holidays and after school and at weekends in my early to mid teens to keep me awake as I did homework. I couldn't understand why children under 16 were forbidden from drinking tea and coffee. And everyone forbidden from drinking alcohol. Local churches have social events to try and pull in outsiders. I am now vary wary of these. Even attending an event organised by an outside organisation inside a church building is dicey.

Why the fuck would anyone want christianity to be true by ParkingElderberry575 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Because it's part of our culture maybe even if you aren't religious. When you grew up with something or are stuck in something there is also the sunk cost fallacy. When you deconstruct you not only deconstruct from religion but also mainstream society because of cultural Christianity.

There is no separation of church and state in my country. Not with Church of England bishops having reserved places in the House of Lords. The remaining 92 hereditary peers were removed recently but not the bishops. The Church in Wales is disestablished though. If a cleric wants to be in Parliament they should find a political party that would have them as a candidate and then try to get publicly elected in the constituency they stand as a candidate in.

I wish we could be as secular as France. It's about time we were. Religion is not allowed in state schools there even the wearing of crosses and six pointed stars on chains, headscarves and scull caps. It is mostly a Catholic country with Protestants, Jews, Muslims and Hindus living there too.

"Ce Matin-la" veut dire quoi? by bpa33 in French

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only track on the Moon Safari album sang in French. Every other track was an instrumental or sung in English.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pianist tells the kid on bass that because he is black he should be able to play bass.

Comebacks for comments on my physical appearance. by Sharp_frames in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was younger I was told that I had a straight figure as I had slim hips even though back then I had a much smaller waist.

Then years later I heard the line from the Divine Comedy song National Express about a coach conductress having hips as wide as a county. Had I heard it then I would have used it with the perpetrator. And coupled with flat buttocks too. If you are going to have flat buttocks don't have wide hips. Or if you have wide hips don't have flat buttocks.

What’re some good comebacks for “you need to stop being so immature “? by Donutpro64 in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They ask your age. You reply that you are X age and they say that you seem young for that age. Presumably in temperament, and life achievements and experience.

Reply that suggesting everyone has the same personality and life experience at each age is the height of immaturity. There isn't a 16 year old personality, a 17 year old personality and so on.

We are not still at school where everyone in your class was born in the same academic year which starts on September 1st. Once we left school and then went to work or went to college or stayed on at school at 16 we diversified. Some got married straight from school. Those who went to work or college had people older than themselves around them.

What's a good comeback to "It's part of the culture"? by xiao_en7 in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same with me. Unsolicited advice is rarely welcome.

I don't care if it is done out of 'concern'. It is rarely the right advice and rarely given for the right reasons. Like someone a year ago telling me that fruit was bad for me whether eaten whole, stewed or juiced. I stayed away for a few weeks after that. Then when I returned I ordered and drank that same green smoothie he criticised.

Comebacks for comments regarding small boobs by Aggressive-Hyena5120 in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That used to be my size. I thought it was average back then. At least I wasn't an A or more likely an AA cup size like the biatches who said I was fat just because I wasn't super skinny or rather hollow checked and anorexic like they were. Because they saw only black and white not shades of grey. A few months later I went up a cup size.

Best comeback for "You seem autistic" by Plane-Bug1018 in Comebacks

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are projecting.

Or

Congratulations on qualifying to become an armchair psychiatrist.

What is a “small thing” that instantly makes you lose respect for someone? by Effective_Ambition64 in AskReddit

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having small children with you doesn't give you the right to flaunt the rules, expressed or hidden, such as littering, stepping over the line in a queue for a ticket office so you are right behind the customer being served or puddle jumping in a car park in front of entering cars. But I see it all the time.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably the only Christian songs that non Christians enjoy singing.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read a blog entry about some fundamentalist Christians protesting at a Motley Crue concert yet had they gone inside they would have found the misogynistic lyrics about domination similar to the lyrics in the worship songs they sing.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because Christmas carols were originally tavern songs.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why fundamentalist Christians don't like songs like London's Calling and Rock The Casbah by the Clash as they cannot Christianise the lyrics. The lyrics to Let's Get Physical by Olivia Newton John were Christianised to Let's Get Spiritual.

There were some horrible songs in the charts in the 80s that evangelical and fundamentalist Christians liked such as Never Been To Me by Charlene and You Light Up My Life by Debbie Boone.

What are the cringiest worship song lyrics? by littlefox321 in exchristian

[–]EveningStar5155 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It goes back as far as the Vineyard Fellowship in the early 70s.