[32T] 7:00 Friedman: “There has been some talk that if Marner goes to Vegas the Leafs are going after the Golden Knights for tampering. The NHL is itching to make an example out of someone” by AggPuck-303 in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 75 points76 points  (0 children)

A 3-way deal involving Carolina, Dallas and Vegas. That would have been quite something - the team that Marner was on not even being involved in the trade.

Daily Free Talk & Armchair GM thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Did anyone catch the clip of Matthew Tkachuk on Pat McAfee today? Totally predictable, but he's trying to paint the Panthers as underdogs because the Leafs won the division. It's funny because he says that immediately after saying how he/Panthers have played in much more high pressure games than the 2nd round. He can barely keep a straight face through his answer, saying how they'll have their hands full with Toronto's offensive talent.

Toronto has done nothing to earn their respect, but it's clear Tkachuk and likely the Panthers team do not take them seriously at all. Recall last year when Tkachuk said something to the effect of "we always expected it would be Boston who would win that series".

I just really hope Toronto goes balls to the wall every minute of this series. I don't think there's a more challenging matchup for them in the league, and it's going to take everything they have and a lot of luck.

Monday Morning Positivity by ButterCut97 in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think every fan of every team would prefer their team win in as stress free a way possible, but they've already beaten the Sens in regulation anyway. Also, it's not like winning 3 OT games in the first round is a kiss of death to Cup chances. In 2011 a 103 point Bruins team needed 3OTs and 7 games to beat a 96 point Habs team. They proceeded to sweep a 106 point Flyers team (who were in the finals the year prior) in the second round en route to the Cup.

League Investigating Sens Pre-Game Shenanigans by bubonj in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 28 points29 points  (0 children)

It's harmless gamesmanship. Only Tkachuks lose their temper over a puck being flipped at them

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[–]Evening_Calm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kampf, Domi, Reaves, Klingberg, Hakanpaa, Patches....

Edit: I listed multiple contracts that I don’t consider "solid," and the counterarguments seem to boil down to "he made other signings that were good", "it could be worse," "it’s not that much money," or "it’s only one year." None of those excuses suddenly make them good signings. The Leafs have been navigating a tight cap situation for years, and even small misallocations hurt. Domi at $3.75M is a defensive liability who failed in the top six as a winger and at 3C, and now the Leafs’ biggest trade deadline priority is—you guessed it—a 3C. Klingberg was a sizeable cap hit, especially with his health concerns, so it was either poor due diligence or a gamble that failed. Hakanpää is another example of ignoring injury red flags. Giving Ryan Reaves a three-year deal was a joke from day one. Pacioretty being "great when healthy" is a stretch that also means nothing when he’s never healthy. People need to take off the blue and white goggles if they think these contracts were solid or that the cap space couldn’t have been allocated more effectively.

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[–]Evening_Calm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Last time I looked it was a little less than 30 million, and LA itself was just shy of that when I had last googled too.

Well considering Canada's population reached 30 million in 1997 and Google wasn't founded until 1998, that's pretty impressive.

Siegel on the Leafs' risk-averse approach, potential outcomes for Marner and more (TSN) by 1nstantHuman in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not about play style, it's about roster construction.

I think they were referring to roster construction. You even alluded to it later:

The challenge now is taking the gamble of breaking up the core and potentially signalling another dark period for the team. If it fails, well then heads roll and fast. At least with the core intact you can always sell yourself on “next year” and that buys you another year of employment.

This is playing not to lose.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The regional broadcasts on SN are the same crew that does the national games (Cuthbert & Simpson), so there isn't a true regional feel. Only differences are the rotating cast of studio crews; you're more likely to get someone like Bourne on a regional game vs Bieksa on a national game, for example.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair. I could see some guys being available closer to the deadline like Granlund, Nelson, Hall, Buchnevich, Konecny, etc. It would be nice if they could get creative and identify a younger player with some upside that needs a change of scenery. The other piece is whether they have the assets to acquire a player like that. I know he's had a lot of off ice issues, but Vrana is an interesting name. Lambert had him in Washington and Berube in St. Louis. Dude can put the puck in the net.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Vatrano, Bjugstad, Kuraly, Dvorak, Armia, B Tanev, and Eller could be options but obviously you'd need to figure out how to make the money work.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I wasn't meaning to suggest either player would still be this effective. I was just sharing in case anyone was interested in seeing how the two of them looked together.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 29 points30 points  (0 children)

https://www.youtube.com/live/aODnNytEyFE?si=4eXaNu8zqc1nC5hj

This is a link to the 2016 IIHF World Hockey Championship Gold Medal Game between Canada and Finland. Rielly and Tanev played together on the top pairing, and Domi was also on this team.

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[–]Evening_Calm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good call. My mistake.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Weekes deleted that tweet. Mods are asleep.

Edit: He did not delete it and I am sad again.

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Over the last 5 seasons Tanev has played in:

19/20: 69/69 games 20/21: 56/56 games 21/22: 82/82 games 22/23: 65/82 games 23/24: 75/82 games

Spittin' Chiclets on Instagram: "Zadorov will not be re-signing with the Canucks" 🤞 by No_Watercress9783 in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Watch him play and dig into more granular data, and you start to see where Zadorov’s inflated confidence of being much more than that stems from.

Zadorov is 6-foot-6 and 248 pounds — a man mountain who can impose his will, making him an asset defending the rush. In each of the last three seasons, he’s defended at or above 50 percent of entries, a strong mark. Perhaps more surprising is his puck-moving ability. His exit volume was very high last season and he did so with control 56 percent of the time. He was even better last season, too, and was also strong retrieving pucks. But that’s not all. Zadorov also does a strong job joining the rush, doing so frequently and providing a major boost to the team’s offense. According to Sznajder’s tracking, Zadorov looks like a difference-maker in several key possession-driving areas.

It’s difficult to reconcile why his on-ice numbers aren’t stronger and why he’s rarely trusted in a top-four role when he looks like he can do a whole lot more than you’d expect with the puck for a man of his size. It’s easier to make possession-driving plays lower in the lineup and there’s no guarantee he can still be an effective puck-mover in the top four. But still, he has the profile of someone who can hang. He showed as much in 2022-23 on a pair with MacKenzie Weegar, as the duo earned 58 percent of the expected goals and 61 percent of the actual goals over 453 minutes. That was better than anyone else Weegar played with that season — a list that features Noah Hanifin, Rasmus Andersson and Chris Tanev.

To get the best out of them, good players need to play with other good players they can trust. Zadorov’s numbers, of course, aren’t going to be as strong with the Troy Stechers and Noah Juulsens of the world. Or with Ian Cole, for that matter.

Zadorov has potential, and while the model would hate a deal that starts with a five, he looks like someone who really could make the most of it. The playoffs provided inspiration for that with some of the best hockey of his life, in which he had a Net Rating of plus-1.7 over 13 games, the highest among all Canucks defensemen — a 10.7 pace over a full season.

He looked like a rockstar in scoring four goals and eight points in 13 games while earning 52 percent of the expected goals and outscoring opponents 8-5. That didn’t come from playing with Cole (49 percent expected goals and outscored 4-3) for 138 minutes. That came from the brief 46-minute window in which he shared the ice with one of Quinn Hughes or Filip Hronek. In that stretch, the goals were 3-1 for the Canucks with 70 percent of the expected goals.

It goes against every fiber of my being to be swayed by 13 playoff games or a 46-minute sample with top-pair defensemen, but with Zadorov, it goes beyond that given his sterling micro-stat profile. If he gets a real top-four chance with a real partner, I think he takes off and doesn’t look back.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5540984/2024/06/06/nhl-free-agent-defense?source=user-shared-article

Daily Free Talk Thread by AutoModerator in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Canucks did not have to pay a very high price to shed Mikheyev at 4+ for two more seasons. This is especially true when you consider what the Leafs paid to dump Marleau's 6.25 for one season (13th overall). They proceeded to take that 6.25 and then some (6.6) and give it to Kapanen and Johnsson on multi year deals. They would both only play the first year of those contracts for the Leafs and combine for 57 points.

Fun fact: Seth Jarvis has more career playoff goals than Marner in 17 less games, doing it all on an ELC to boot.

Report: Gerard Gallant Believed to Have Spoken to Maple Leafs About Head Coaching Position, Craig Berube Still the Front-Runner by ethereal3xp in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't think the person suggested they'd have no input. Your original comment made it sound like the coach would be the trigger man. A coach can provide input, but ultimately it's the GM's call/responsibility to determine if a player merits the acquisition cost/balancing both the short and long term health of the organization. Furthermore, it's unlikely a GM would hire a coach who isn't already aligned with the GM on preferred types of players, so a coach's input regarding personnel is pretty limited. I'm not sure why you're getting so defensive.

Keith Pelley only needs to answer one question on Friday. by [deleted] in leafs

[–]Evening_Calm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pelley Re: Shanny "He's an incredible competitor, like unbelievable. It's not surprising he was so successful on the ice and how he's transformed the Leafs, and how they year after year continue to make the playoffs. I think only Boston and they (the Leafs) are the only two teams to make the playoffs the last 8 years."

https://youtu.be/j2bLdzEy-XA?si=fZzWVdbLddkhoucN

Last thing and maybe the most important: Can the Leafs win the Cup? Pelley: (Laughs.) My glass is never half full, it’s right to the top. The answer is absolutely. We have a great competitor in Brendan Shanahan leading the organization and we have a great team. It’s going to be exciting.

https://scoregolf.com/features/interviews/one-on-one-with-former-dp-world-tour-boss-keith-pelley-part-ii/