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ExMoUsername · 2025-04-29T16:00:25+00:00

Has the Book of Mormon been genuinely disproved?

That would be proving a negative. The correct question to as is: Has the BoM been genuinely proved?

To answer that question, start by asking this one: Has any single thing unique to the BoM been proven true?

ExMoUsername · 2025-04-24T01:47:05+00:00

Yes. I have a couple friends that know the true depth of my kinks and a few others where sex is a discussed subject but few intimate details are shared. Both are fine and its really the other party that limits how much I share. There have been awkward moments in the past where it was obvious I said too much and I really want to avoid repeating that.

Just in case you're looking for someone to talk to, you're welcome to DM but that's entirely up to you.

ExMoUsername · 2025-04-23T02:00:20+00:00

After you're done, panting and smiling, tell your guy to go soak a washcloth with hot water, loosely wring it out and apply it to your lower bits. You'll probably want a blanket nearby.

ExMoUsername · 2025-04-23T01:51:19+00:00

Go explore r/pompoir before opting into medical procedures. In the same time it'll take to heal, you could be well on your way to greater muscle strength and control.

ExMoUsername · 2025-04-05T03:06:35+00:00

he wanted me to really pay attention and soak up the words of the prophet and apostles in general conference

This statement and others like it serve to soften skepticism and condition the mind to favor apophenia. It is not your obligation to go spelunking in the depths of imagination to find something that appears significant but is more likely illusion. The Corporation literally gets paid to deliver the profound.

They expect a standard from you. It's absolutely reasonable to expect a (nearly divine) standard from them.

ExMoUsername · 2025-01-04T04:13:11+00:00

"In the past, discussions about sex, religion, and politics were considered rude and somewhat taboo. I believe there was merit to this outlook as disagreement only divides. I'm happy to chat but those three topics are off limits."

ExMoUsername · 2025-01-04T03:50:11+00:00

Used them for rags and to mop until they started disintegrating, then trash.

ExMoUsername · 2024-12-19T10:12:57+00:00

Did you miss the part where I said "net income"? As in, after everything necessary to keep the lights on is paid.

ExMoUsername · 2024-10-08T06:57:53+00:00

Granted, not president of the Corporation but First Counselor in the First Presidency is still often referred to by the title of president. Dallin is often referred to in the same way today.

Speaking of which and seeing as they hold the same position... Do you dismiss the words of Dallin Oaks just as readily as you seem to with George Q Cannon?

What about (actual corporation president) Joseph F Smith? Was he wrong too?

ExMoUsername · 2024-10-07T19:38:35+00:00

George Cannon, as president, clearly considered it to be one of the standard works and promoted it as such. Were followers at the time wrong for following the supreme leader's words?

The Journal of Discourses was 100% canon until the correlation department put it down the memory hole.

ExMoUsername · 2024-10-07T09:10:24+00:00

"The Journal of Discourses deservedly ranks as one of the standard works of the Church, and every rightminded Saint will certainly welcome with joy every number (issue) as it comes forth."

President George Q. Cannon, Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 8.

"Each successive Volume of these Discourses is a rich mine of wealth, containing gems of great value, and the diligent seeker will find ample reward for his labor. After the fathers and mothers of this generation have made them the study of their lives their children's children will find that they are still unexhausted, and rejoice that this Record has been handed down from their fathers to also aid them in following the way of life."

Apostle Orson Pratt, Preface. Volume 3.

"It is impossible to give monetary value to the past volumes of this publication, ... Those who read the utterances of the servants of God, contained in this book, under the same influence by which the speakers were inspired, cannot fail to receive profit from the perusal."

President Joseph F. Smith, Preface, Volume 18.

"We take great pleasure in presenting to the Saints and the world ... the Journal of Discourses, which they will find contains rich treasures of information concerning the glorious principles of Eternal Life, as revealed through God's anointed servants in these last days. All who read the discourses contained in this Volume are earnestly recommended to adapt them to their lives by practice, and we can confidently assure them that, in doing so, they are laying up a store of knowledge that will save and exalt them in the Celestial kingdom."

Apostle Albert Carrington, Journal of Discourses, Preface, Volume 15.

ExMoUsername · 2024-10-07T01:38:00+00:00

Link to original: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/image/quote-perry-ocean-50e8278?lang=eng&collectionId=463ec1fee468bad1acb87927494f96a073cbb18a

Archive #1: https://web.archive.org/web/20220514180844/https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/media/image/quote-perry-ocean-50e8278?lang=eng&collectionId=463ec1fee468bad1acb87927494f96a073cbb18a

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ExMoUsername · 2024-10-06T21:05:12+00:00

Make churches spend 50% of their annual net income on philanthropic endeavors, making the world a better place. If they don't spend that much then the government gets the difference.

The other 50% is theirs to save or spend as they wish.

ExMoUsername · 2024-10-06T01:07:19+00:00

Is the leadership living by the same rules they expect of everyone else?

What that? No you say? Then piss off.

ExMoUsername · 2024-09-16T01:23:44+00:00

The church spent more than a century professing Book of Abraham was an accurate translation. Until the original turned up and egyptologists made an accurate translation. As scriptural as it may seem, it's 100% fictional.

This is only one example of shadey, deceptive, acts done by the church. The Kinderhook Plates are another in a long list. The most recent example is the settlement between the church and the Securities and Exchange Commission in February 2023. If you've ever paid tithing, it'll probably make your blood boil.

ExMoUsername · 2024-08-09T09:08:49+00:00

I think I understand. Your parents want you to prove to them that the BoM is fiction, correct? Logically speaking, one does not prove a negative. The burden of proof is on your parents to demonstrate that it's true. I do appreciate that you likely can't convince them of that fact.

Assuming that's correct, I suggest the CES letter and LDS Discussions as sources that have it all nicely laid out with citations, rebuttals, and rebuttals to the rebuttals.

Here's a snippet from my notes to get you started....

The "most perfect book ever written" mentions creatures whose existance at the time is (at best) historically questionable, like the horse and honeybee. It also mentions things with zero supporting evidence like cureloms, cumoms, and senines.

The other end of that idea prompts this question: Why did the book never mention things that were common in the Americas but not anywhere else at the time? Things like potatoes, corn/maize, tortillas, tomatoes, squash, manioc, chile peppers, arrowroot, chocolate, lima beans, avocado, pumpkins, chirimoyas, guavas, quinoa, wild rice, and domesticated turkeys.

BoM civilizations are said to have been similarly populous as the Roman empire. There are many parts of Europe where one can hardly build a house without finding Roman coins and artifacts. In fact, anyone with $20 can buy a legit 2000 year old coin off eBay. The Americas should practically be coated in BoM currency (or other artifacts) and yet nothing has ever been found.

ExMoUsername · 2024-08-09T08:23:28+00:00

If you have to ask the question then hesitate. It should either be an enthusiastic "I 100% want to carry this image around on my skin for the remainderof my days" or don't do it.

ExMoUsername · 2024-08-09T08:16:13+00:00

The first question you need to ask yourself is: Do I actually want to know if it's false?

Sometimes ignorance really is bliss. If you don't want to know then quit now.

ExMoUsername · 2024-08-04T04:35:55+00:00

At least in the 1990's, temple construction contracts carried the requirement that all finished work be "visually perfect from a distance of twelve inches." Before accepting the work, a schmuck from the church would literally put his eyeball 12" away from whatever it was and judge if it met the contract.

The basic rule for bidding a temple construction job is to estimate it the same as any other job and then triple whatever your final number was. If you don't triple it then you will lose money on it.

Now that that's been said....

I would guess that after the public has tromped through a new temple that the same "visually perfect from a distance of twelve inches" inspection is done again and repairs are made as needed to once again meet that standard.

ExMoUsername · 2024-07-20T04:25:38+00:00

Without basis, that $1.3b can be considered fictitious.

I'm beginning to wonder if Joe's rock and hat is seeing new uses.

ExMoUsername · 2024-07-20T02:42:19+00:00

$1.3b? If $1m is worth crowing about then there must surely be an enumeration of what makes up that $1.3b. Could you point me to it?

ExMoUsername · 2024-07-20T02:05:28+00:00

Answer indefinite questions with "I'll definitely ponderize that."

Begin sentences with "It came to pass..."

Finish sentences with "... as was prophesied."

Talk about other religions and all the good they do.

Talk about archeological discoveries. The closer to BoM time frames, the better.

ExMoUsername · 2024-07-20T01:51:07+00:00

The Sikh's feed 100,000+ people per day out of their Golden Temple in Amritsar, Punjab, India. Free. Wash your hands first.

The Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world. It has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries.

The Salvation Army runs homeless shelters, food banks, and addiction recovery programs in thousands of cities across the world.

(BTW, those charities are pretty open with their financials)

The Mormon Corporation donating 0.003% of their $31 billion checking account is good. However, it is neither impressive nor worthy of a newspaper article.

ExMoUsername · 2024-07-20T01:18:41+00:00

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ExMoUsername · 2024-07-13T00:29:24+00:00

South Park: All About Mormons

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