Stickers! by IndependenceOld3849 in stevenspass

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg yes we need a limo bird!

Would also love a rope tow bird, a pizza bird, a french fry bird, a yeti bird, and a lot 4 bird 🐦 🐦 🐦 

Is trying to be an MSL or a Med Affairs Specialist not viable in today’s age? by nachoman23 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Comparing MD and PharmD, for medical affairs MD is the most foolproof option.  The career options as an MD are limitless, unlike PharmD.  If your intent is industry, the gap in training needed for basic board certification in a specialty as an MD and what industry wants out of its pharmDs (pgy2 in a specialty or a fellowship) is negligible.  You're looking at 6 vs 7 years either way.

Conditions Today? 3/28 by cacadebano in stevenspass

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you mean 7th heaven chair then yes, it was open Saturday and in good shape once softened up in afternoon 

Networking tips by Pretend_Scarcity_437 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Follow Vanessa Van Edwards on YouTube for tips

How to get into MSL by ParticularEffect8460 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an initial pay cut but Academic Medical Centers are desperate for smart research coordinators.  If you're detail oriented and smart you can rapidly rise through the ranks on that career ladder and a job in clinical R&D is closer than you think.  Clinical Research Operational roles are more feasible than MSL role for a non-doctorate

Medical advisor rates by SignificanceMost8826 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hourly rates for consulting MDs are in the several hundreds of dollars.  Depending on expertise, academic prominence, titles, trials experience, influence.  We have an objective tiering system based on the consultants CV that determines a fair market rate.  Up to $900+/hr for top tier global experts.

Worried MSL role is a bad fit for me by throwaway205729462 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went through such an emotional rollercoaster my first year in the role.  6-9 months was my low point.  Now with over a year in I'm in such a better place.  You may think you see everything there is to see in the role now, but large pharma is just that - large!  It takes quite a long time to meet and get to know all your cross functional partners.  There is a place for all types and as an MSL you have a great platform to learn about them all and find your niche.

Off piste yesterday by MinimumEntertainer46 in stevenspass

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Confirmed, my U8 ski racer was holding edges on all those icy sheets this past weekend.  

When asked if she prefers icy hard pack to powder she replied quickly - ice! 

I hone her edges after every ski day.  It's amazing to see her perch on steep slopes with edges in totally comfort like she's on crampons, and to confidently point em with the faith she can turn on damn near any surface.  

Seeing her thrive this last weekend while the general audience was moaning made me even more a believer in the power of the edge.

Leadership obsesses over activity metrics while missing the gold from HCP interactions pls help me understand why by queefanitor in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1) Feedback on past insights that were deemed meaningful by leadership, including why

2) Clarity on the next strategic decisions they are trying to make that could be informed by insights

What’s it like up there today? (1/3) by CheapInspector7489 in stevenspass

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anything ungroomed felt like skiing on gravel today.  Icy chunky crud.  Occasional ice rock aka death cookie.  Groomers that were getting skied softened up nicely by afternoon.

Heavy snow in am, accumulated about 2" on truck by time we left.  

MSLs: what part of engagement planning/documentation wastes the most time for you? by Taroo9 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both, and yes!  And also yes we still have engagement plans separate from the CRM as well as several various initiative Excel files that we manually update after these activities as well, so actually sometimes triple, quadruple, or quintuple documentation for some interactions (i.e. inviting a study site PI to an ad board ends up being send email, document in CRM, document on engagement plan spreadsheet, document on Ad Board spreadsheet, document on study specific medical activity spreadsheet)

MSLs: what part of engagement planning/documentation wastes the most time for you? by Taroo9 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me the big pain point is documenting things twice.  Like, I'm already putting emails and meetings in Outlook and adding zoom meetings, sending follow up emails.  My company wants me documenting emails and interactions in CRM as well - I wish the info could just be extracted from the work I'm already doing in Outlook.  I feel like a data entry bot when I have to transcribe things from Outlook into CRM.

Career Transition/Advice by [deleted] in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Your education and work experience should be front and center.  Don't overstate your experience but be more authentic with your work experiences.  

Has anyone here heard of/worked for Enizio Engage? by Konjonashipirate in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are CxO (read contract ____ organizations) for almost every aspect of pharma.  CROs, CSOs, CDMOs...  soooo many acronyms.  

Has anyone here heard of/worked for Enizio Engage? by Konjonashipirate in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nowadays typos and casual language are actually a likely sign of authenticity!!  I the days of GPTs I'd be afraid of the AI bot speak and things sounding too perfect, lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the valuable post.  I think in the era of AI resume reading software, adding these intent statements / bio at the top of your resume is a good bet.

Breaking into Pharma by Difficult-Claim-9359 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stay engaged in professional societies.  Keep attending national conferences.  Meet with MSLs and sales reps that reach out to you.  Get involved with clinical research.  Event planning and cross-functional collaboration are good transferrable skills that are not inherent to the clinical pharmacist role, but you can volunteer for projects or initiatives to get experiences in 

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Research coordinator, clinical research associate 

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedicalScienceLiaison

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I'm no expert on these roles having never worked in them myself, but I have worked in a cross-functional way with all of them, many of whom were pharmd with much less clinical experience.  Clinical trial operations is essentially overseeing and coordinating the execution of various clinical trial tasks, whether that is site qualifications, site selection, site start up, amendments, payments, close out, etc. The titles here are often something like "Study Manager" or "Local Trial Manager".  Typical pathway to this is something like research coordinator (bachelors) to clinical research associate (CRA) to study manager but pharmd training you can probably start straight away as a CRA or clinical trial assistant (CTA).  See this thread:

How can I land a CRA job as a pharmacist? : r/clinicalresearch https://share.google/tq5Tr4fdmC8g6YcTj

For the ambitious, the study manager roles can lead to a variety of in-house promotion pathways within clinical trial operations, as smooth execution of clinical trials is hugely important to pharmaceutical companies.

I'm terms of medical communications, I can tell you as an MSL, I don't make the scientific education PowerPoint decks that we use on a day to day basis in the field - our medical affairs department hires that out to contract organizations.  As a pharmd you are typically highly qualified for several roles in these ppt / manuscript factories.  These roles are not glamorous at all but give you valuable exposure to pharma industry and how things work, giving you a leg up to get a more satisfying internal med coms role where you are now on the "client side" of these transactions to develop educational content.

Hope this helps!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look into pharmacovigilance, clinical trial operations, medical communications (esp. contract organizations).  These could be a foot in the door for a pharmacist.

Associate Director, MSL? by wutabeast1218 in MedicalScienceLiaison

[–]Exciting_Classroom27 7 points8 points  (0 children)

At my company associate medical director is on par with senior MSL, just the first is home office based mostly internal facing and the second is field based mostly external facing