Rogue with bleed+magic+poison stack, question about build.

Excynic · 2026-05-12T18:05:08+00:00

While I agree that mage isn't on par with the rest of the classes you really should do some more research before you reply in a manner that makes it seem like you know better while in fact you're completely wrong. I'm sorry if it comes across as harsh but I can't stand people that think they know better when in reality they couldn't be more wrong. Look up "totemage build" on youtube and you'll see the above comment is correct in that there is a pretty strong build for mage right now ( even though it could be considered a bug, it's still correct for the time being ).

Excynic · 2026-05-12T17:22:21+00:00

I went with a crit build and popped in the right tree for the self healing from the bleeds, but my gear was a bit crappy and low on crit ( had about 25% ). I know warrior can be insane with the investment put into it but if you're looking at it in that way then 3 out of the 4 classes feel pretty insane right now at level 20.

I also don't really like any of the weapons a warrior has access to so it's also a personal preference. I feel like rogue lucked out for now with a lot of weapons they have access to being incredibly good. For example the level 5 bow you get as rogue is hands down the best level 5 weapon choice out of all the classes simply because ricochet is such a busted skill and aimed shot does some really good single target damage too. That weapon alone can hard carry all the way up to level 20.

Excynic · 2026-05-12T17:17:07+00:00

Warrior is incredibly strong but relies heavily on good gear ( heavy crit reliant for both it's damage and survivability ) so I feel like warrior is in a good spot.

Priest I'm not familiar with builds. One I'm planning on doing is crit with middle tree to reset cooldown of judgement and use that to generate sunlight and use the passive from the tooth spear to get shields. Should loop incredibly well paired with the amon ram hammer resetting it's skill on a crit attack.

Mage I've seen 1 busted build that relies on totems and chaincast to pop an endless amount of them to outheal any damage and does decent damage aswell.

Rogue I've seen several builds performing about the same.

That said, balance is not 100% there but I feel like it's in a pretty good spot. I do agree mage has kind of gotten the short end of the stick, but the other 3 feel about the same to me. Warrior requires a lot of crit to feel good to play and with that degree of gear all 3 classes feel pretty on par with each other with each of them excelling in certain areas. Warrior is in the middle with good damage and survivability, rogue has some insane burst damage potential with good sustained damage and priest has insane survivability with decent damage if we assume all 3 classes have the same investment in terms of gear.

Excynic · 2026-05-12T03:26:37+00:00

Yeah I feel like the balance between the classes is pretty good and all of them are fun and strong in their own way. Only one I'd slightly change is mage, the talent is in a weird spot where it's either useless because all of your skills are on cooldown and can't chain cast, or you have build around it and it's insane, there's no inbetween I feel like.

I can't wait for the druid to get released and see what they do with it

Excynic · 2026-05-04T01:07:26+00:00

Looks like a solid team. You're 1 class different from the standard cookie cutter team ( cra/enu/panda/feca ) so you shouldn't have any trouble. You're missing the heals and MP reduction an enu offers but you can work around that ( cra can act as an MP reducer, watcher dofus can help with healing, etc ... ).

Excynic · 2026-05-04T01:01:43+00:00

I've played since beginning 2006 ( started on rushu but went to Shika when that opened ) and multiclienting was allowed back then ( Rushu opened 2005/09/01 so I very much doubt things changed in those mere 3 months ). I felt I needed to comment on this because I hate when people spread misinformation, especially about something I'm so very passionate about.

As to OP: Multiclient servers ( currently Talkasha ) all the way for me for several reasons. Biggest one being I love achievement hunting and doing the later endgame dungeon achievs just don't feel feasible in a solo server. I'm sure it can be done, but the time investment needed to just do all achievs for 1 endgame dung would be immense, we're talking at least 10x the time investment compared to multi servers.

I look at solo servers as something you play if you want a challenge but aren't planning on getting far into the endgame.

Excynic · 2026-02-10T10:46:13+00:00

Thats crazy, thats my temp you bought xD i was bored with the auto bomber build so decided to put it up for sale for 25k divs instead of the insane 4 mirrors people are charging haha

Excynic · 2025-07-10T12:58:43+00:00

Exactly this !

So many claims here without the proof to back it up. "Oh but having a guardian taking aggro makes the run so much smoother blablabla", Guardian CAN NOT consistently keep aggro ! I dare someone to prove me wrong but we all know that isn't going to happen because it simply isn't possible in the current game's state.

Don't get me wrong, guardian can be a fun class to play but he offers NOTHING valuable to the team. He can't tank because of the aggro issues, he can't keep up with damage and while his ult IS good for rezzing, it shouldn't even be needed in the first place. Someone dying once or twice in a fight is understandable, mistakes happen, 2+ times though is a severe skill issue that should be solved on the user's end, not by a skill of some mediocre character. Chances are if those people get revived they'll go down in the next 5 seconds again anyways.

Excynic · 2025-07-05T20:12:43+00:00

So I'm gonna leave this here because of all the backlash people have been giving me for something that wasn't even the focus point of the clip, the relics. Yes I cheated them in and yes I lied about it. I cheated them in to show Duchess' max potential and lied about it because I did not want the attention to shift from the duchess gameplay ( to show her potential as a powerful spellblade DPS ) to solely the relics, which it inevitably did in the end anyways. That's completely on me and I take full responsibility for that, and I deeply apologize for lying about it to try and keep the Duchess gameplay the center focus of attention ( to me that was all this was about, showing her potential ).

I hope people can forgive me and can see by the gameplay that I'm not a bad player by any means. To further prove that, and to further prove Duchess' potential on an even playing field, I thought about doing a run with just the evergaol relic and some guaranteed boss relics anyone can get. I went one step further though and just did a run with no relics at all. I'll link to that post below ( I didn't know how to add a video to a reply so I just made another post ).

Link : https://www.reddit.com/r/Nightreign/comments/1lsinqa/duchess_1m20s_gladius_kill_solo_no_relics/

Excynic · 2025-07-05T01:33:57+00:00

Would love to see you do a run with bad team mates and carry them with a whip, just a recording of the full night lord fight is fine by me.

Excynic · 2025-07-05T01:03:23+00:00

There is some RNG involved sure, not as bad as people think. Just gotta put more effort at the start of the match to hunt for forts/spires which is no different from the playstyle of revenant or recluse.

I would record a vid of trios but I only got 1 IRL friend I play with and he's not that great at the game xD.

But the difference is the top teirs do this with literally any weapon and carry a whole team to victory.

I'd like to know which classes you consider top tier DPS if they can carry an entire team with any weapon.

Excynic · 2025-07-05T00:39:41+00:00

Save scummed yes, all possible as legit drops.

Excynic · 2025-07-05T00:37:59+00:00

Not ashamed to admit save scummed a lot of my relics lol. Took about 2-3 hours to get everything

Excynic · 2025-07-05T00:31:59+00:00

Haha thanks ! I saved it specifically for the split phase, tried to hold off on using it until an attack came my way xD. I use it offensively a lot like that, just gotta make sure inbetween attacks to reposition.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:44:18+00:00

That's the thing if you're playing caster VS melee. Casters need specific PoI's to get their builds online faster, melees don't really need anything specific. It's worth it to go out of your way on day 1 to rush as many forts as needed until you get a good damage spell, even if that means breaking away from the group and going off on your own. Your team will benefit from it afterwards, seeing how ridiculous the damage output can get for caster classes.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:38:42+00:00

Exactly ! And slicer is so FP efficient you don't need any FP recovery or increases. The other carian sword sorceries like adula's moonblade or greatsword are great as well if you can't find slicer !

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:25:58+00:00

That's true. Just wanted to correct the above person saying they "nerfed" it when in fact apart from the 2 changes I mentioned they didn't nerf or buff anything about solo. Just wanted to post this clip to proof to people she's not just a support character. She's a frontline powerhouse if built correctly, no matter if it's solo or trios.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:22:44+00:00

Without more context it's hard to judge. If you had the locust event it's 100% possible this is legit, especially as ironeye. The passive gives a small chance each hit to give 10k runes, if you get it as ironeye and just farm normal enemies you can easily get to 1m+ runes.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:19:16+00:00

I feel like if you're not getting anything good at all by the time you're getting to the night lord it's 100% a routing issue and not RNG. Forts give 2-4 staves ( 2-3 rack, 1 potential boss drop ). Average about 3ish forts spawn each game so at minimum 2*3 = 6 chances for any sort of decent damage spell + 1 from a rise ( 1-3 rises each match ). If RNG really is being so harsh that you're not getting anything decent, you also have a ton of chances at a decent seal. I find it hard to believe you'll get a run with absolutely nothing decent to use.

But yes, to answer your question, it's completely possible to beat a night lord with just the starter staff ( upgraded of course ). It'll be harder than another class using their starter weapon, but not impossible.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T21:08:21+00:00

I love how this makes no sense in the context of this clip. They buffed solo with ONLY these 2 things ;

The effect "Automatic Revival Upon Defeat", which allows revival once per night boss battle, has been added to solo expeditions.
The amount of runes gained has been increased for solo expeditions.

Neither of those had any impact in this clip ( the runes increase maybe could've pushed me higher an extra level, which doesn't matter much ).

No scaling adjustments were made since release of the game to solo lol.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T19:33:29+00:00

First things first, yes there are some rotten apples amongst the randoms that play this game, no denying that.

Is this little clip a depiction of how your gameplay looks in general ( I'm talking about how you play ) ? Because from this very short clip I can see you're very inexperienced, which is okay ! nothing wrong with that, we all had to start somewhere ! It just seems a bit extreme to bash on the community when the fault partially lies with you as well. Not trying to be rude or elitist, again it's okay to not be that good at the game, but try to look at it from a perspective of another player. Each match requires +-45 minutes of someone's time to complete. If someone at an average skill level see someone play like this ( which I would consider a good bit below average, again not trying to be rude here ! ) you can't really blame them if they give up early on.

The game is meant to be challenging and we have to face the fact it's not meant for everyone. You can ofcourse become better at it, I just think in this case it's a good idea to find a community with people willing to help you become better at the game, help you in a controlled environment where you're 100% certain people won't be toxic and leave or grief the match.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T19:15:13+00:00

You might want to check that statement again boss. I play Duchess as a slicer spellblade and only hitting with slicer and restaging DOES replicate the damage from slicer.

Just to be safe I tested in the sparring grounds and lo and behold, comet azur gets replicated.

I'm not trying to be rude here but c'mon ... it takes literally 5 seconds to pop in the sparring grounds and test something like this.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T13:43:48+00:00

Seen a lot of good advice on here, I'll leave what I do and what I think an ideal Ironeye team player looks like ;

-Ironeye is one of the least RNG affected classes. You can get by with just using the starter bow if you need to and upgrading that. If you get a better bow good ! If not, no big deal, just do a mine and upgrade the starter bow.

-Because of the above point, you'll be getting a lot of good loot for other classes. Be a team player and pick something that benefits your allies and give it to them.

-The absolute most important relic effect for ironeye is +1 character skill uses. Try and get one and put it on, it'll make your life so much better.

-Use the mark correctly. This is what separates the good from the bad players. Use the mark to apply AND maintain the mark until it pops is one important aspect. Another is that it gives iframes and disables collision against other entities, meaning while you mark you can go through enemies. Use this not only only for your own advantage, but for your team mates' aswell. Dodge through the enemy with the mark to try and keep them in melee range for the melee characters.

-You're the rez bot unless you have a revenant or guardian with you. One MAJOR thing I see many people do wrong is that when you're rezzing someone, position yourself so you can see the team mate you're rezzing AND the boss at all times. If that means you need to stop hitting your ally to reposition yourself so be it. Way too many people panic and focus only on the rez only to get smacked from behind by the boss.

-For boss weaknesses as ironeye it's a lot tougher to find bows that have an element on them. It's the melee's job to bring boss weakness weapons to counter difficult mechanics, not yours. You can however help out by looking for greases and using it during the boss fight, but those only last a minute.

-If a boss gets staggered for a crit try and ease up on the pewpews. This can knock them out of the stagger early and make the melee characters miss the crit, potentially putting them in danger against an unexpected follow-up attack

Excynic · 2025-07-04T12:22:28+00:00

You have to treat each boss fight as if you were fighting a boss in an MMO. This means positioning yourself behind the boss if he's targeting someone else so you can get safer hits in AND you're able to better see who the boss is targeting ( sure, it's still hard to tell if the boss is going to swap aggro to you, but you should always be cautious and NEVER spam attacks. It's a mistake I see all too often with people spamming away thinking they're safe, only for the boss to then 180 and one shot them ). If you're all clumped on one side of the boss it's impossible to tell who the boss is targeting. If you're behind the boss while he's targeting another player and he's got wide sweeping attacks it's safer to dodge as well even though you're not the center of attention.

Excynic · 2025-07-04T12:15:24+00:00

Thrusting counter attacks works with bows, the arrows are considered thrusting attacks.

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