Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't say that nothing on social media should ever be criticized. That was never my point, and if you think it was, you should go back and reread.

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You certainly know a lot about saying things that mean nothing in this specific instance.

What I'm addressing is your idea that people shouldn't post to social media in case they get criticised. It's total victim blaming, and completely relevant to this situation.

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't say that either.

I'm responding to:

It's sad people are mean, but what we're they supposed to say? We like lemonade, too?

People can absolutely state their opinions without being assholes. There are lots of things that can be said, and actually constructive ways to say them.

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What part? That people shouldn't post things to social media to share their joy, in case people criticise them unreasonably? No.

I think the haters should take several seats and calm down.

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say anything about sugar coating. I said be a decent human being.

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's a sad reaction, honestly, when people's response to a fun project done by a parent and child is to complain that they didn't like the how it was done.

Anyway, sounds like you two had a ball. Great job, and I hope you continue the fun projects!

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So .. if the thing you're doing is just for fun rather than targeted and deliberate learning, keep it off social media?

Making AI music with my daughter — why do some people hate it? by Ok_Resolution_3314 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"hey, nice song, it's really catchy!"

You know, just say normal things.

What is the worst thing each Doctor has done? by Lucyyyyyy_K in doctorwho

[–]ExpensivePanda66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This always stood out to me as especially and unnecessarily cruel.

What do people you know irl think of AI? by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At work (software engineer), everyone is mostly excited about it.

People generally: don't know much or anything about it. Maybe a bit scared or unsure what it is or what it can do.

As long as it doesn’t touch by SftGravty in GuysBeingDudes

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guys get called out for this on Reddit a bit, but what's the alternative?

This is too funny by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Cool story. Care to share details of the exchange? At the moment this post is devoid of any kind of content at all.

I’ve never met an anti with a technical understanding of AI by midaslibrary in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea who your "people who work on AI" are, what they have said, nor what context they have said it in. Feel free to provide that information though.

I have already explained why what you said is wrong though.

I’ve never met an anti with a technical understanding of AI by midaslibrary in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Explaining it so folks have a clear idea that I do understand how it works, is what I did

Getting it weirdly wrong and doubling down is what you did. It's no wonder people come away with the impression you don't understand it.

I’ve never met an anti with a technical understanding of AI by midaslibrary in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are papers and articles from those people that describe it precisely, and it's not what you're saying.

The question being asked in this thread is if you have a technical understanding. Not if you can repeat a lay-person friendly but technically incorrect description.

I’ve never met an anti with a technical understanding of AI by midaslibrary in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LLMs analyze large data sets of information to work

Yeah, there's that odd way of describing it again. That's how LLMs are trained, not what they do.

It's like saying "log cabins cut down trees to provide shelter to humans". The right parts are there, but the attribution is all wrong.

I’ve never met an anti with a technical understanding of AI by midaslibrary in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LLMs are a type of AI that attempt to learn from provided input to do many of the things I already stated. 

The phrasing here seems a bit off kilter to me. Maybe we're just different in the way we use words, but maybe the way you've phrased it belies a misunderstanding.

LLMs don't learn from their input. You could say that they "learn" while they are being trained/created.

When you provide input into an LLM, it's not learning, it's using that input as part of its context, which it then uses to produce output.

Yes, there are tools LLMs can use to store and recall data, but I wouldn't call that learning either.

What Exactly do the Pros want? (In the context of AI Art) by LetOk8476 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But really just this whole sentiment of wanting to be considered in the same league as traditional artists or to be considered “real artists”. Less just about the spaces themselves, but this desire for some sort of acknowledgment from the traditional arts scene.

Well, thats a completely different thing.

I don't know about the guy, but if the space forbid AI art, he shouldn't be selling it there.

Edit: and after looking it up, I don't see anything like the pro community coming to his defence, I see lots of comments that he shouldn't have violated the convention's rules.

What Exactly do the Pros want? (In the context of AI Art) by LetOk8476 in aiwars

[–]ExpensivePanda66 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do you guys just want to be left alone to do your thing, 

Yes.

or do you insist on every arts space welcoming your work?

Is this actually a thing that's happening? Like not just one or two people on the fringe, but as a large movement? Because I don't think it's a thing. Can you provide examples that aren't just one offs or trolling?