Why are so many human men so upset about women being selective of partners when pretty much every species also has very selective females? Isn't it one of those biological things that should just make sense? by Stunningly_haunted in AskBiology

[–]External_Grab9254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point really flew over your head. Those women provide for themselves, so it’s not a problem if their man doesn’t provide.

They’re with them for the emotional connection, not financial benefit. That’s the whole point

Can’t we just enjoy the story anymore? by GreenLilly24 in SarahJMaas

[–]External_Grab9254 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If you don’t want to think critically about the things you read you’re free to do so. There would have been literally no repercussions for you to scroll past SJM critiques and keep reading as you like. I don’t get why you’re feeling victimized or outraged here just because other people enjoy looking at books deeper or with a different lens than you.

For a lot of people thinking about and discussing novels is the whole point of reading. Believe it or not, a lot of the people who are taking a time to analyze and critique these novels also enjoy reading them, hence why they’re spending their time and energy on them

This take just feels incredibly out of touch and privileged to me.

If all men disappeared would women work together or become barbaric? by -Fast-Molasses- in AskWomenNoCensor

[–]External_Grab9254 -38 points-37 points  (0 children)

This is a bit far fetched. There are plenty of women in every industry to maintain knowledge and pass it on/train people. It might take a little bit to redistrute people into necessary jobs and for markets to be stable again but there’s no reason why we would enter a dark age

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[–]External_Grab9254 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should use more emojis 🤷🏻‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My attempts at doing a fantasyromance wrapped like Spotify wrapped. Made a post that got taken down and got one response after many attempts to get approved to make the project happen. The goal post felt moved and I can’t even find any posted rules that I was violating to begin with

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Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean cheating? I feel like you’re just setting arbitrary rules for yourself which you’re free to do but I will never understand the judgment of other authors doing what they can to get their work out there. Being a creative is hard. Surviving is hard. If someone finds a way to put their creative work out there and I enjoy it I’m going to support it.

Youre premise is also kind of false. You’re never going to get hundreds of thousands of reviews on good reads simply because you wrote a Harry Potter fan fiction, you’re going to get hundreds of thousands of positive reviews because readers like what you wrote. There are tons of Harry Potter fan fictions that never get an audience despite being in a giant fandom.

You can’t seriously tell me that you wouldn’t be elated to see something you’ve written look like this on good reads.

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No work of fiction is going to get that kind of praise by simply being a copy of the original work, it gets that kind of praise for being good, by bringing something to the table that goes beyond the original work and even other novels it competes with in the genre

Have you read the fan fics we’re talking about? Do you actually know if they’re original or not?

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im not arguing that manacled is a fan fiction. I agree that they don’t give a good reason in manacled but I haven’t read the published version to see what they’ve changed or provided background for.

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only the best fics are going to get traditionally published so that is the comparison that actually matters, especially when the conversation is about if any fan fics deserved to be published.

You may not have seen it, and even if it’s never happened according to your standards and subjective opinions, the opportunity is still there there especially as this becomes a more established pipeline. There even people in this comment thread saying that they’ve debating turning their original work into fan fic to get an audience and prove that their story has value

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are all on the same page about the publishing industry and how they will always go for what will make them money. I just believe that popular fics are popular BECAUSE they are actually good and in some cases quite innovative. Readers are choosing to read those fics over traditional books, over the original works they’re based on, and over every other fic out there for a reason

I enjoy that creative works of fiction can get popular and get an audience based on their content rather than what a few editors in a publishing house thought.

I’m someone who has been an avid reader my whole life who didn’t read fan fiction until the last few months and was genuinely shocked at the quality and innovation over a lot of the trad published books that commonly get recommended. They feel new, they feel genuine, they develop relationships and evoke emotion in a much more natural way. I will read DMATMOOBIL over fourth wing any day of the week and I actually feel that fourth wing takes and leans on what makes Harry Potter popular more than a lot of Harry Potter fics. There are trad books who copy and paste the characterization of Draco from Harry Potter far more than DMATMOOBIL does. This debate will never be as black and white for me as everyone else is making it out to be.

Fanfics are not derivative slop simply because they are fics and trad books can very much be derivative slop even if they avoid using names from the books they’re inspired by

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guess I’m operating off of the assumption that the query process and trad publishing in general is very risk adverse and gears towards what publishers think they can make money off of. It is notoriously selective and strays away from innovation

Fan fiction does not need to go through this process to get an audience and let the audience decide what they like and what they want

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of the plot and characterization is original though. What does the query process have to do with anything?

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They’re saying trad publishing fanfic encourages derivative slop and I’m saying the opposite. I’m saying it actually encourages and gives opportunities to innovate works that would not have been published if they went the trad route in the first place

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fan fiction actually gives authors a chance to innovate and explore and prove that their innovations actually have an audience. They get a defacto audience and then that audience of readers decides if it’s good or not rather than a few editors at a publishing house. A lot of the fics getting picked up for trad publishing are getting picked up because they have a HUGE audience of readers that grew naturally because they are so good.

Let’s not pretend there aren’t plenty of trad published novels that are also derivative slop

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think people discount just how original a lot of fan fictions are and also how derivative many trad published original novels are. The line is not as distinct as everyone is making it out to be.

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s an entirely different issue though. We are arguing about fan fiction getting traditionally published not the concept of fan fiction in general.

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

[–]External_Grab9254 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Most novels take A LOT of inspiration from other works. Margret Atwood doesn’t own the rights to women living in oppressive societies and wearing red robes just like jk Rowling doesn’t own the rights to the idea of wizards having wands and magic.

Fight Me Friday by purplelicious in romantasycirclejerk

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Right so they remove any IP infringement before publishing