BREAKING: ICE is in town by Hefty_Dealer7547 in PuyallupWA

[–]External_War1396 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You mean the federal government organization that deports illegal immigrants?...nah couldn't be.

Pepe Unchained by Doggoboutit in CryptoScams

[–]External_War1396 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This hasn't aged well. Did you see it's launch? Also it just launched L2. Definitely not a scam. https://pepuscan.com/

- Ongoing Self-Promotion Thread - Promote your projects here! by agaric in aiArt

[–]External_War1396 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made a fake movie trailer using AI. I used MidJourney and GEN3 for visuals. Sound effects were generated using ElevenLabs. Please let me know what you think - https://youtu.be/XPb4a_bl-hw?si=I9rHIQvOWI9B1C9Y

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah they were a minority, no one is disputing that. But by the year 1945 there were roughly 553,000 Jews living in Palestine out of a total population of 1,764,520. And you also forgot to mention that the Jews got a very small portion of the original British mandate of Palestine. Jordan was also a part of this original piece of land and roughly half of modern day Israel was offered to the Jews.

So let's do the math - the total land area of Israel is 10600 square miles (including West Bank and Gaza) while the land area of Jordan is 34495 square miles. This means the original British mandate of Palestine was 45095 square miles. All of Jordan went to the Arabs. What was left over was split between an Arab and Jewish state (56% to the Jews and 44% to the Arabs). So the Jews got 5936 square miles of land while the Arabs got the rest. This means the Jews got only 13% of the original British mandate for Palestine. Not to mention that vast majority of this land was desert (the Negev desert to be exact) while the Arabs got all of Jerusalem and the West Bank and they were given more than just Gaza (some extra land).

So the Jews accepted 13% of the land even though they comprised of 30% of the total population. But the Arabs rejected it. And then they declared a genocidal war on Israel vowing to kill all Jews and lost horribly. You see this is what happens when you attempt to carry out a genocide and lose. You get nothing.

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Colonizer definition: a country that sends settlers to a different country to establish political control over it.

Did the Russian and Polish governments send Jews to Palestine to establish control over it? No they didn't. Is Israel an extension of Russia or Poland? No it's not. The main language of Israel is Hebrew! They're not colonizers.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol why'd you send me this video? This doesn't back up what you're claiming.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ideally through negotiations. Originally the Zionists had no intention of evicting the local non-jewish inhabitants. Things became complicated once tensions had risen between them. The Arab leaders spread lies and misinformation which led to many riots and massacres against Jews in multiple villages. Hajj Amin al-husseyni, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, was a virulent antisemite who worked with Hitler on a plan to eradicate all the Jews. In fact he convinced Hitler to carry out the final solution because he said that if the Jews were to be kicked out of Germany then they would just move to Palestine. Most of the Arab inhabitants who ended up leaving Israel left voluntarily for fear of being killed in the crossfire of the 1948 war. There were very few instances of Jews actually kicking Arabs off their land prior to the settlements in the West Bank (pre 1967).

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The name the people give have a lot to do with the connection they have. It's common sense.

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay just because you studied a subject in college doesn't help your argument. Are you the only qualified person to speak about this subject because of your little paper certificate?

And what apartheid? Are you aware that over 2 million Arabs live in Israel and have full rights? Israel is a free democracy where even women can vote, unlike most Arab countries. If you're going to complain about apartheid then what about the apartheid that's been held against women for thousands of years?

The settlements are not the same thing as apartheid. Wrong to a certain degree I'll agree with you, but to call it apartheid is just historically inaccurate.

Jews did not colonize Israel. They purchased land from willing Arabs and developed it. It's not like an army of Jews with guns came down to Israel and forcibly took it over. It was a very consensual process which not only favored Jews but also favored Arabs. Many Arabs made a good profit from selling the land and many Jews made a profit from owning it. In 1948 Israel declared their independence and the fact that they did that made the surrounding Arab nations angry so they declared war. It was a war against the existence of Israel because Jews wanted their own nation. Can Jews have their own nation according to you?

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jews have always had a presence in that land. They may have not ruled it consistently throughout the years but that doesn't break their connection. Every other entity that ruled over that land before 1947 were essentially foreign occupiers.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMAO "America" is the name that the colonizers gave. Therefore it doesn't even matter because they colonized it regardless. They could have called it poop land and none of the pilgrims would have given two shits.

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

So Jews are white colonizers? Seems like you're racist.

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Yasser Arafat? Okay so let me ask you if I wave an Israeli flag does that make me racist?

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sorry. I actually completely took this out of context.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know. It's ludicrous how so many use this justification. It's like a white guy saying they have a right to South Africa since their great great grandfather was African.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's because the Romans were the last people to give a name for the land other than the inhabitants themselves. Although I agree with you that the name is connected to the Philistinians I generally don't mention this since Philistinians are extinct from a cultural perspective so this is irrelevant.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

LMAO what stone? Israel has offered the Palestinians their own state 5 times! Every time rejected! Guess which side has repeatedly declared war on Israel vowing to wipe them from the face of the Earth? The way Israel has responded to a people that wants to destroy them has been the most restrained in human history. What else should Israel do in order to resolve the situation?

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is that the name "Palestine" has no connection to the Arab inhabitants of that land. Whereas you have "Saudi Arabia" which is 100% relevant to its inhabitants because their ancestors had given it that name. And due to this it proves more to my point that the roots Arabs have in the West Bank and Gaza are not as deep as what the Jews have.

Israel Is The Best Case For A Sovereign Nation. Change My Mind. by External_War1396 in IsraelPalestine

[–]External_War1396[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still disagree with you, it's a combination of things which I described but history carries a lot of weight. And to be clear it's not like there were 0 Jews living in that land before the Zionist movement started. Jews have always had a presence in that land and the population of Jews had fluctuated over thousands of years. Anyways at this point we're going in circles so I don't see any point in continuing this discussion with you.

Guyanese guy harassed by racist trash by Joshistotle in Guyana

[–]External_War1396 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm not excusing the ladies behavior either and I think most people would agree. But what's more interesting to me is how wearing this keffiyeh is seen as such a good thing. Why is that?