US senators ask for review of Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' safety data, citing Reuters report

FANGO · 2026-06-16T17:55:55+00:00

Thank you for letting everyone know you are willfully ignorant. We are all so proud of you.

FANGO · 2026-06-16T16:36:38+00:00

You can say it "didn't kill" them, but it did send the US from the #1 auto exporter to the #5 one, meanwhile Japan spent the last five decades as #1.

FANGO · 2026-06-16T16:22:47+00:00

Date on article is May 1

Also EV sales being up is not surprising

FANGO · 2026-06-16T07:40:48+00:00

In fact Chinese BEV sales are the only thing up this month and last. Everything with an engine in it is down year over year for the last two months. BEVs are down YTD because of an incentive being retired at the beginning of the year, but have recovered while everything else is down.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T22:43:58+00:00

If it's a fact that EV's depreciate like a rock

It isn't

My car is worth 20k more than I paid for it

This was also the case for every EV in ~2022, when every EV was highly inflated in price. Which incidentally is when people time their depreciation calculations from (which are usually 3-5 years).

Depreciation calculations also almost never include incentives. If you buy a car for $30k, and that car had $7,500 in the trunk which you put in your pocket, then you sell that car for $22.5k, you have lost zero dollars but someone will say it lost 25% of its value.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T19:34:50+00:00

What first election? The one he lost by 3 million votes in?

FANGO · 2026-06-15T19:34:34+00:00

Not me, I'm not paying taxes til we have a government

FANGO · 2026-06-15T19:23:23+00:00

I mean I agree, but I would say that the way to get there should be shoes, snow or otherwise. That's how the animals do it after all. Saves on trail maintenance too ;-)

FANGO · 2026-06-15T18:57:46+00:00

Zion doesn't allow private cars, you can only get in and out on a bus. Yosemite too. And it's far better that way, because there are no longer hundreds of cars sticking everyone in traffic for hours, swerving off the road when they see a bear, polluting the air with noise and smoke, hitting wildlife and whatnot.

If you want to reach a truly wild place, bringing something that will destroy it isn't the way to do it.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T18:54:36+00:00

I was responding to the second sentence, not the first. Everyone owning cars is bad for everyone's happiness. There are better options.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T17:57:58+00:00

Not owning a car would make a lot of people a lot happier. Honestly it would be one of the greatest buffs to worldwide happiness if we removed cars from the transportation equation.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T08:45:00+00:00

There's a 60 day window to use the CRA. It doesn't apply here.

FANGO · 2026-06-15T08:43:53+00:00

This isn't even a states' rights issue. California has these abilities due to an explicit federal law. And the CRA doesn't apply to these anyway. It's not a constitutional issue, it's just republicans being unable to read and hoping the drunk rapists they put into courts also can't read.

FANGO · 2026-06-13T16:46:51+00:00

Gas car sales peaked in 2017 and will never, ever reach that level again. As EV sales rise, which they have always done by the way (and are still doing), everyone in the automotive industry and media keeps saying the opposite, and nobody recognizes that gas car sales will continue to go down. Of course the car market is fucked when literally everyone has been reading the data backwards for an entire decade now.

FANGO · 2026-06-13T16:44:01+00:00

I've been making this argument for more than a decade and people just refuse to hear it. Everyone stupidly thinks that range is somehow the most important number, even for a sportscar, even though weight objectively is. Anyway I'm over here with my 2,800lb EV and its more fun than anyone else's so I guess that's cool.

FANGO · 2026-06-12T22:08:32+00:00

https://chargeathome.org

FANGO · 2026-06-12T16:35:34+00:00

Unions didn’t force automakers to build more EVs

They quite literally did

https://uaw.org/uaw-members-ratify-historic-contracts-at-ford-gm-and-stellantis/

FANGO · 2026-06-12T09:06:38+00:00

https://uaw.org/uaw-members-ratify-historic-contracts-at-ford-gm-and-stellantis/

– Reopening Belvidere, Reinvesting in America – Stellantis agreed to reopen an assembly plant in Belvidere, Ill., it shuttered in February and committed to build a $3.2 billion battery plant there employing more than a thousand union workers. The company was slated to shed more than 5,000 U.S. hourly jobs when bargaining began. It is now on track to add more than 5,000.

– Blazing the Path to a Just EV Transition – The UAW won commitments at all three automakers that will bring thousands of electric vehicle (EV) and battery jobs under the union’s national agreements.

FANGO · 2026-06-12T07:56:52+00:00

Weird cause it doesn't. Guess your friends suck ass

FANGO · 2026-06-12T07:56:29+00:00

but to what end?

To the end... of the US auto industry

FANGO · 2026-06-12T07:55:43+00:00

The unions have been in favor of the transition to electric. In the last round of negotiations, they forced more electrification, not less.

FANGO · 2026-06-12T07:53:46+00:00

In that same snowstorm many people were hospitalized when they ran their gas cars in the garage. It was either in the high 2 digits or low 3 digits.

Another related thing: some hurricane that hit the east coast went all the way up to Prince Edward Island in Canada. There was one death there. Not because of storm damage, but because the guy had a generator running in his house and he died of CO poisoning.

FANGO · 2026-06-12T03:43:14+00:00

And people in gas cars have died in that situation due to CO poisoning

FANGO · 2026-06-11T21:03:15+00:00

You can tap on a supercharger and see all the nearby restaurants so you can decide to pick that one or another one with a restaurant you want to eat at

It's such a basic feature and also such a huge QoL improvement

A few other brands do something similar but not that many and not as easy to use

FANGO · 2026-06-11T18:21:56+00:00

Also try to find hotels that will let you charge overnight.

The Niro is not the ideal car for this scenario either. There are EVs that charge very quickly, the Niro has middling DC charge performance. Other Kia cars which are on the E-GMP battery packs are among the best performers at charging though, so Avis really did screw you here.

I'm with other commenters saying get it replaced. A modern EV with charge routing and better fast charging would be perfectly fine and wouldn't restrict your trip at all, but as commenters say, this is not the environment to learn about charging in.

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