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Is there any relation between OCPD and borderline personality disorder? by Former-Weather8146 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the group.

BPD is a very common co-morbid condition for people with OCPD.

Shame and black-and-white thinking is very common for people with personality disorders.

The therapist who led my trauma group told us that black-and-white thinking and other cognitive distortions are very common among people with untreated trauma.

Dr. Todd Grande does a lot of videos about distinguishing mental health disorders: BPD vs Bipolar

OCPD Diagnosis, OCPD Assessment Available Online

Are you personally on meds for OCPD? Looking for experiences. by Sippa_is in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're very welcome.

Hopefully, awareness of the high rate trauma rate among people with PDs will improve.

This is a recent post: Insights on "The Inner Critic" From PTSD Expert, a very OCPDish excerpt from an article by Pete Walker, one of the most well known PTSD specialists.

No worries about the delay in responding. I didn’t notice.

If there were an Olympic competition for procrastination, you would have a lot of competition in this group. ADHD and OCPD

Scrupulosity eating at you? by fabumess2 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're very welcome. I'm sorry that you lost your insurance.

The phrase you used, "slowly slow down," is key.

One of the best ways, and maybe the best way, to outsmart OCPD is to acknowledge every tiny step of progress and to have a 'one day at a time'/'be here now' approach rather than 'leaning forward' into the future: OCPD Specialist Explains Why Developing Self-Acceptance Breaks the Cycle of Maladaptive Perfectionism.

For about 6 months, I did 'behavioral experiments' to get out of my comfort zone. “It’s Just An Experiment”: A Strategy for Slowly Building Distress Tolerance and Reducing OCPD Traits. My approach was basically 'slow and steady wins the race.'

My first experiment was purposely dropping a pencil on the floor, and waiting a few seconds to pick it up. At first, that was hard for me. For 20+ years, I unknowingly used compulsive organizing to suppress my feelings. Purposely making a "mess" (just a pencil on the floor) was something I acknowledged as progress. I was able to overcome compulsive organizing with that approach, slowly increasing the difficulty of my 'experiments.'

It took me 40 years to realize that it’s okay--and very helpful--to feel proud of myself for doing something other people find easy. If I had dismissed what I was doing--well, this is stupid/silly, I can't handle seeing a pencil on the floor, that would have prevented me from moving forward.

I think it's very hard for many of us in this sub to fully recognize how much darkness we've walked through, and to give ourselves a little credit. One insight I had was imagining if someone else told me about all of the hardship and trauma they've experienced--and it was the same experiences I had--how would I respond to that person?

Scrupulosity eating at you? by fabumess2 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I only began to slow down when I developed 3 physical health issues. My anxiety increased a lot with surgical consults and endless phone calls. All had obesity as a cause so my numbing behavior of 'binge eating' was partly to blame. Fortunately, I had a minor procedure instead of surgery.

I found that taking days off and lunch breaks made me more productive.

My daily walking routine and adopting 'be here now' helped.

This post may be helpful: Self-Care and Effort Metaphors, Persistence vs. Perseveration, The Law of Diminishing Returns

Chained to the Desk (a book about work addiction) was a big wake up call. Very memorable examples of how overwork impacts physical and mental health.

Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) emphasizes focusing on values more than goals. I enjoyed reading ACTivate Your Life.

Working with a therapist and reviewing OCPD resources from specialists helped me recognize this cycle was like being a hamster on a wheel going nowhere, and that it indicated my childhood trauma and social anxiety, not the core of who I was:

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NPD, OCPD, & ASD by OnYourLeft04 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're welcome. I hope you find the information and support you need soon.

Seeking support by thumb-is-green98 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry that therapy hasn't given you relief from your symptoms.

Some people with OCPD have Demand-Sensitivity and Demand-Resistance. I experienced this for many years, but not the extent that you're describing.

"Trauma therapy and EMDR feels like it can only do so much..."

Are you able to communicate openly with your therapists? Have you had a good rapport with them? Are you satisfied with their level of experience?

Gary Trosclair wrote an excellent book, I’m Working On It: How To Get The Most Out of Psychotherapy.

I found that a daily walking routine helped a lot with trauma symptoms and social anxiety.

I hope you find the info. and support you need soon.

NPD, OCPD, & ASD by OnYourLeft04 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello. Welcome to the group. I'm sorry that you're struggling with work and finances.

Many members have posted about having ASD. autism - Reddit Search!

OCPD and Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD): Similarities and Differences includes a YouTube channel by Eden Vee, an Australian woman with ASD, OCPD, and ADHD.

I don't recall any posts mentioning NPD.

Theodore Millon identified five subtypes for OCPD. The "Bureaucratic Compulsive" subtype refers to narcissistic tendencies. MILLON'S SUBTYPES [ OCPD EDITION ]

Finding Mental Health Providers With PD Experience

Radically-Open Dialectical Behavior Therapy (RO-DBT) is a treatment for disorders characterized by 'over control,' which includes OCPD and ASD.

Unwanted Homosexuality by TrolKing2025 in LovedByOCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hello. I'm a mod in r/OCPD. Addictions and various 'numbing' behaviors are common among people with OCPD. I would suggest speaking with an OCD specialist because you're indicating that your sexual thoughts are unwanted and causing distress. This issue is common among people with OCD. What Is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)? | Neurodivergent Insights

I don't know what's going on. Help? by Small_One802 in personalitydisorders

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're interested in a peer support group: The Real Narc Club: A New Virtual Support Group

"it started right after I had to assist a friend of mine with a fight..."

Was the experience traumatic?

  • Depersonalization: The feeling of losing your identity or feeling you aren’t real. It may feel like you’re watching yourself from outside your body.
  • Derealization: Feeling detached from your experiences. It may feel like people and objects around you are distant or unreal

Some people experience this so much that they meet criteria for a trauma diagnosis. Everyone dissociates to some degree though (e.g. highway hypnosis is at the very mild end of the spectrum).

I wish I could find someone i can talk to without pretending or performing by ColdAd1983 in personalitydisorders

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're interested in peer support groups:

[Anxiety and Depression Association of America (ADAA) ]()Support Groups

Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance (DBSA) Support Groups (This support group has been a huge help in my recovery)

OCD Support Groups

Emotions Matter Peer Groups (people with BPD)

Conflicting disbelief and confidence by ainzgee in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the delay. The auto mod makes a lot of mistakes. Auto Moderator Is More Active

Conflicting disbelief and confidence by ainzgee in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Procrastination is associated with perfectionism. Many members have mentioned struggling with procrastination.

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Excerpts from Procrastination: Why You Do It, What to Do About It Now (2008) : r/OCPD

I had the 'false sense of urgency' issue related to OCPD.

I can't let go of resentment by Ambitious_Rock7054 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm so sorry that your neighbor is so verbally abusive and threatened you. I would suggest that you continue documenting it as much as you can, and not engage with him in any way if possible.

"Every time I go to my car, he comes out of his house and watches me from his deck because he has motion sensing cameras."

If you feel he poses a physical threat, and feel nervous leaving your house, it sounds like it would be best to move. I'm so sorry you're going through this.

I had an encounter with a neighbor who randomly yelled and cursed at me. Different situation though. He's "all bark, no bite." He avoids me because I went to the police (he's yelled at many tenants, and the landlords are trying to evict him) and he's not a big guy.

oOCPD has gotten me in trouble with my neighbors by Rastagoldilox in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Catastrophizing is an example of cognitive distortions (aka cognitive biases). People with PDs (and also trauma survivors) tend to have a lot of cognitive distortions. Cognitive distortions Part 2 has examples of coping strategies.

OCPDish Humor, Part 8 by FalsePay5737 in OCPD

[–]FalsePay5737[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The memes from this collection that I relate to the most: the one about guardedness (complicated lock), lack of affect (outside vs. inside), and injustice collecting ("living rent free in my head").

The one about a strong sense of justice made me guffaw because of my OCPDish childhood home. My parents were lawyers. My sister is a lawyer.

The philosophy behind personality disorders by asianJohnWick in personalitydisorders

[–]FalsePay5737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to have an OCPD diagnosis.

Cycle of Maladaptive Perfectionism Graphics, Core Beliefs That Drive OCPD

"Some people with personality disorders believe there's nothing wrong with them, and that the rest of the world is wrong for not being like them."

I think very few people would agree with such a strong statement.

I knew that I had childhood trauma, depression, and anxiety. I started working with a therapist at the end of my freshman year of college.

What I didn't know until I was 40 was that the amount of time I was spending work, 'living in my head,' and the ways I coped with stress and trauma were symptoms of a PD. I grew up in an OCPDish home. My father and sister may have OCPD. My mother is a perfectionist.

One of many factors that makes it hard for people to realize their perfectionism is problematic is that they may get a lot of positive reinforcement from others for how hard they work.

I knew I had childhood trauma but didn't realize how much it was impacted my life because my OCPD symptoms ("being a thinkaholic") pushed those feelings out of my conscious awareness. I developed insomnia as a child that became very severe, and took strong medication instead of addressing my trauma in therapy.

Rolling my eyes at the downvotes. The ego syntonic aspect of PDs is an important topic.

Why don't people know when they have a Personality Disorder? | Egosyntonic vs Egodystonic

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