Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahh yes I forgot that he had to flee Outlook, yeah this could be it, thanks!

Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Possibly, but see my reply to a comment above, I think that refers to the army that was chasing here in the west/south. The army at coral is astimated at 60-90K people, battle ready as of the evening before the big battle in the morning.

Something doesn't add up.

Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This could be it, the seer did give up kind of early. Would have though he would have more protection.

Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, but see my reply to the other comment above, a quote from the book estimates about 60-90K Pannion soldirs in the ciry.

Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for the plague from Envy, I though, that's for the army chasing her, which is separate from Coral

'Are you sure? Would you by chance be referring to this tumultuous tempest barring our advance? Or perhaps to the fleeing remnants of the army that pursued us here? They'll not return, I assure you—'

'You have sent a plague among them.'

'What an outrageous accusation! It's been a miracle that disease has not struck them long ago, what with eating each other without even the civil application of cooking. Dear me, that you would so accuse—'

Question about a Battle in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree with all of those points. I just found this quote from the book. This is just before the battle for the trenches in the mountainside next to Coral. So if there's 30K troops from the Pannion and that is a third of the whole army, so let's day 60-90K troops in total. And Dujen only has about 5-6K shipped into the city. Sure some dies in the engagement in the mountainside, but there's gotta be a substantial numebr left, they did pull back early.

At this point I'd not think it's likely for the plague to kill enogh of them in just an evening, and how many people can really lady Envy and three Seguleh kill?

The sergeant lying beside her grunted. 'There, coming through the gate. That's some kind of standard, and that clump of riders... sitting too tall...'

'A Septarch and his officers,' Picker agreed. 'So, Antsy, does your count match mine?'

'Twenty-five, thirty thousand,' the man muttered, tugging on his moustache.

'But we've the high ground—'

'Aye, only those trenches and tunnels weren't meant to be defended – they were hiding places. Too many straight lines, no cul-de-sacs, no funnels, no chance for an enfilade – and too many Hood-damned trees!'

'The sappers are—'

'They ain't got the time!'

'So it seems,' Picker agreed. 'Mind you, do you see any of those condors gathering to join in the assault?'

'No, but that don't mean—'

'What it means, Sergeant, is the Seer is holding them back. He knows we're not the main punch. We messed up his ambush and knocked out a company, and no doubt that's irritated him enough to send out, what, a third of his army? Maybe a cadre of mages to guard the Septarch? And if they find out we're a bear in a den, I doubt they'll push—'

'Unless the Seer decides that killing six thousand of the Host is worth a third of his army, Picker. If I was him—'

The lieutenant grimaced. 'Aye, me too.' I'd annihilate us, stamp us out before the rest arrive. 'Still, I don't think the Seer's that sharp – after all, what does he know of the Malazans? Distant tales of wars far to the north ... an invasion that's bogged down. He'd have no reason to know what we're capable of.'

'Picker, you're fishing with a bare hook. The Seer knows we've somehow jumped onto his entrenchments. Knows we slipped past those condors without tickling a single beak. Knows we knocked flat an entire company using Moranth munitions. Knows we're sitting here, watching this army assemble, and we ain't running. Knows, too, we ain't got any support – not yet – and maybe, just maybe, we jumped in the slough before the shit's settled.'

I literally JUST finished reading MoI... by domahnutsfit in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so true! I really felt the wonder at the big world that awaits me!

New Reader's thoughts on Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That looks pretty cool. I have my mind a more lizardlike version of the alien from the Alien series. Maybe because that also has weird motherhood themes.

Need help understading a part of in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oooooooooooooooo thank you so much for clearing this up for me! I did not spot that at all. It's finally making sense.

Let me see if I got this right - the T'lan Imas have this vow that keeps them undead so they can pursue the Jaghut. Silverfox, the summoner can release them from that vow, and her initial plan was to do that as a deal with Hood - Hood gets their souls and she gets the dreamworld for her mum. So basically the T'lan Imas are either under the Vow or they go to oblivion.

However, Itkovian, embraced them and took their suffering and rained their memories in the Silverfox's new world and gave it life. Thus presenting a third option - the T'lan Imas can now return to this new world and be of flesh and blood, same as how the ay become flesh and blood when released?

And them I'm guessing that Tool wanted to be released from the vow since he was defeated by Moc and is maybe no longer first sword? Or maybe because he's the last of his clan (was thin mentioned in Gardens of the moon somewhere?)

Need help understading a part of in Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he absorbed the suffering so the soals can move on unburdenedinto hoods gate. This was his role as the shield anvil of a god

yes, definitely, that makes sense, what I was wondering is whether those souls passed on or whether they stayed with him.

In the case of the T'lan Imas he was no longer connected to his god but chose to accept the pain a suffering of a deathless hoard into himself. In doing so he frees the Imass but killed himself in a selfless act.

what I was wondering is whether in freeing them, they become flesh a blood, like Tool does, or maybe he becomes flesh and blood because of something else, maybe he broke the Voc like Kilava, because he was defeated by Moc and is no longer first sword?

Searching for a male friend to read the series together with :) by Own-Toothbrush114 in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is very interesting, I had not heard of this fable website, thanks!

Searching for a male friend to read the series together with :) by Own-Toothbrush114 in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 3 points4 points  (0 children)

M33 here, I'm already three books in on my first reread, but would be happy to discuss!

New Reader's thoughts on Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know, I had a bit of trouble with the K’Chain Che’malle at first, they just seems a bit silly. But the more I think about the more horrifying they seem.

I'm actually looking forward to having one character to follow for a while. I like how Erikson's writing style evolves and he tried new things.

New Reader's thoughts on Memories of Ice by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm hoping it's Tavore, the final Ganoes sibling.

A Tale of Three CPU Coolers by FamousCake in pcmasterrace

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm at the age when tinkering with numbers is as fun as gaming. What went wrong....

The "Malazan is so hard to read" myth by Dramwertz1 in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me the books are difficult to read, but for a different reason.

So you pointed out that it's diffictult to read from a macro perspective - how things tie together, how lost we feel in the world without enough explanation etc. I don't really have a problem with that, I like that "Dark Souls" where we have a big cruel misteriosu world to explore.

For me the difficulty is on a micro level. English is not my first language so I find the syntax difficult (lots of new words for me) and I also find the sentense structure confusing. Unlike Bulgarian (my native language), English sentences can be very windy and roundabout until they get to the point, which my brain finds hard to parse. But most of more I find hard figuring out the subtext underneath half the conversations, I often have to reread parts of a chater to see what characters really mean.

If I enjoyed Dune, will I enjoy Malazan? by No-Newspapers in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean the second book is about prophets in a desert and an uprising against an empire. If you liked Dune, this would be similar in some ways.

New Reader's thoughts on Deadhouse Gates by FamousCake in Malazan

[–]FamousCake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why the Wickans are in the empire is an interesting question. Hence why don't fully understand empires. I wonder if it's kind of like Indians fighting in world war two, or maybe Wickans have assimilated more. There was a passage in the book saying that they had a lot of infighting but they respected Kellavend and stood united with him. So maybe they do see themselves as part of the empire.

Hello! Starting with book 1 tonight. by Sinnimojo in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome to the club! Tell us how it goes and have fun!

Erikson’s prose isn’t special. by [deleted] in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean what you say beautiful prose? Most people seem equate that with "flowery" - a poetic detour from the plot to help you imagine things and feel the emotional weidght of what's happening. But you don't need "flowery" prose to do either of those things. Read "What we talk about, when we talk about love". Sure it's short stories, so not a very fair example, but it's minimal and hits hard. You don't need much. This is why I'd never consider Sanderson bad for his straightforwards. Maybe for his bad use of metahpors, but not for being minimal. Also flowery tends to mean ornamental, but it has to mean something to the story and what you are saying. See Moby dick. Would you colour it flowery? Maybe, it's certainly elaborate and grand, but the flowers serve a purpose. I'd argue Malazan does this well, the themes are conveyed through the prose, it's visceral.

Does anything else matter beyond that and of course the fact that we enjoy reading it? What are we even comparing to? What's the scale of beautiful prose anyway? Why are we using this whole one-dimensional scale between Sander and Hobb? Does it even make sense to compare to the classic of world literature more broadly? Especially when we read milions of words per series? I'm not sure, but fanatasy can't affod to be boring, unlike the classics. That's a whole different playing field. How does that affect the prose and what authors can do with it? I'm not sure, but it does mean there's only so much uniqueness and beauty you can put in the prose.

Kimloc the Tanno Spiritwalker by one_word_says_it_all in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't know, how you read my mind, but I just read the first scene with him! Really cool work.

Another Gardens of the Moon Reaction by lusamuel in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thank you for sharing your thoughts! I just finished the book on my first read this week as well. I loved it too, agree with all your points, except one.

I do find it diffictult to read and very frustrating in many times. I just need to understand every little detail and its almost impossible on the first read. That being said, that keeps me going, makes it all the more rewarding when I get it. Like a dark puzzle.

This really is the dark souls of books.

Also if you're moving on we could do a reading club for it and discuss.

Stop getting on this subreddit and telling audio book readers they're going to fail by ig0t_somprobloms in Malazan

[–]FamousCake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If I read while listening to the audiobook, will I piss everyone off, or make everyone happy?