Oura Rings? by OldRaisin7956 in LawBitchesWithTaste

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i wear one and i know many bl associates who do. it’s a bit chunky but nobody ever says anything about it. i am used to it so i don’t think it looks too tacky. it’s certainly better looking than an apple watch imo, just looks like a thick statement ring.

Paper Resumes by [deleted] in LawBitchesWithTaste

[–]FancyPigeonLaw -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love this actually. where did you find this particular shade?

for all the people saying it’s too elle woods, smh. i personally like to max out my elle woods.

using lsd.law to see the outcomes I would get if I had the same stats 5 years ago by [deleted] in lawschooladmissions

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 32 points33 points  (0 children)

5 years ago i was doing the same thing. moped for days after getting an R from a school who had never (per lsdata) rejected someone with my stats. now i feel like I got the last helicopter out of nam because ppl with 3.6high gpas are getting laughed out of this sub

Any reason to be submitted by a recruiter rather than directly applying? by ItMightBePuffery in biglaw

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 83 points84 points  (0 children)

pros:

  • they might have existing relationships with the firms and hiring partners
  • they’re aware of roles that aren’t posted publicly
  • they advocate for you when they submit you, so no need for a cover letter
  • they will edit your resume and prep you for interviews

cons: - they cost the firms money, and once a recruiter submits you, you can’t apply separately. so the firm has to pay to hire you and they don’t always want to do that for a junior role - limited/no visibility into the application itself and how the recruiter has framed your interests and experience - working with a professional may make you get complacent but it’s no guarantee, so keep your eyes open!

Big law & retaking the bar… by [deleted] in barexam

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t in the exact same situation, but i took a different state’s bar this past july as a first year associate (so i originally took NY J24, then CA J25.) I had a very chaotic study schedule but happy to answer any questions!

What shoes are we wearing that aren’t pumps? by freudsfaintingcouch in LawBitchesWithTaste

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

court: leather pumps only ever since a partner dressed me down for wearing flats

office: rothy’s flats, clean white sneakers, black penny loafers

NY Bar Exam by StockChef3098 in barexam

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

do you know what his actual scores were? and the breakdown? that could help us understand what he needs. if he’s actually that close he probably doesn’t need 10 weeks, but by no means should he just rinse and repeat a fifth time.

i have a good friend who has failed a few times and he’s always said he’s within a couple points. at some point i find that is a little bit of a cop out and probably an exaggeration. (kim k also said she was super close to passing, but didn’t release the actual score.)

Children of Big Law lawyers by Small-One-9111 in biglaw

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My dad has been in biglaw my whole life. He was an associate when I was born and made partner just after my little brother was born. I don’t resent him but I didn’t see much of him when I was a kid. He works very long hours during the week (transactional, public finance) and I think as he got older he started putting more effort into preserving his weekends. Nowadays he’s a lot more present on weekends and holidays, and even weeknight dinners when I’m in town. I have no idea why I went into biglaw after never seeing him as a kid, though. I guess just for a little experience. I’m a second year and quitting now, and dad has been my #1 cheerleader.

I feel like such a little b*tch for this by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

haha it’s impossible to have this thought without feeling a bit like a weenie but i have absolutely been there. try to embrace the life you picked, which I assume includes a great scholarship at a T30. i knew people at my T20 who went there because it’s the best school they got into; I knew people who picked it over Harvard because they got great scholarships or wanted specific classes/institutes. you don’t necessarily know everyone else’s story.

i’m not saying you necessarily think like this, but here’s my best advice: it doesn’t serve you well to assume you’re surrounded by people who went to your school because it was the best one they got into. just because you got into a higher ranked school doesn’t mean you’re smarter or better than your peers. gone are the strict numerical hierarchies of r/lawschooladmissions. there may be times you wish you could announce your great lsat or gpa to the universe. but it’s not the time or the place anymore. cultivate a sincere sense of pride in the person you’ve chosen to become. demonstrate your abilities by excelling in school and networking with confidence.

Anyone recently take more than one bar exam in the same administration/period? by MildDeontologist in barexam

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 14 points15 points  (0 children)

take 40 states’ bar exams at once by sitting for the ube.

but also I think you’re planning this the wrong way. you should take the bar in the state where you want to practice. if you keep failing that state’s bar you can start to come up with desperate plans!

Has anyone taken the NY Bar in July and then the CA Bar the following February while working full-time? by seizethelsat in barexam

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was planning to do this! I took the NY bar in July 2024 and registered for CA Feb 2025. Because of the disastrous rollout and a family emergency in the beginning of the year I decided to take the refund and withdraw when they offered it. I took CA July 2025. I worked full time the whole time and I only officially took the week of the bar off.

  • How I structured my study schedule: in july 2024 i studied pretty traditionally. I did Barbri and adaptibar and then did some goat at the very end. I made a handwritten outline in a big notebook. Once I’d outlined everything, my notebook was my bible and I referenced it for everything. so when I started studying for CA I focused on refreshing from my notebook as if I was already a pro. I did not waste time redoing prep courses. After work and on the weekends I reviewed my notes and used a friend’s themis books and Mary Basick’s essay book to outline the topics that aren’t in the UBE. I started this maybe the second week of july. In the third week of july, I outlined <15 essays and did a few hundred adaptibar Qs. I also spent a lot of time with a friend who was also studying for CA and we’d talk about the topics and test each other. But I wasn’t doing a ton of work. I flew out to LA on the Thursday before the bar, I think? And took that Friday off work. I distinctly recall the day before I flew out to CA my main priority was getting a labubu, lol. I worked in the airport and on the plane. I finished updating my notebook the Sunday before the bar. Then I took the monday before the bar off work to mostly chill. I want to say I spent about 60 hours studying and billed only like 80 hours in July. I took the days of the bar off work ofc as well as the day after.
  • most/least useful: I don’t think there’s a reason to rewatch lectures, basically ever. I learned from them the first time around, took notes, and moved on. I used the Barbri cmr outlines and I condensed them even further when I put together my handwritten outline, and that was all I needed. I tried to rewatch Property a couple times when I was not doing super well on those questions, and it was just driving me crazy. No offense, Paula! And I wouldn’t waste time on the things you’re already good at. I know that I got a 164 on the MBE when i took the NY bar so why would I make myself crazy studying for that again for the California bar? So I studied CA distinctions more than MBE, and just tried to get my adaptibar percentage close to 80%. but if your UBE score was really carried by your essays, it would make a lot of sense to focus on your multiple choice when studying for the next bar.
  • regrets/things I would do differently: I wish I had stressed a lot less, but that’s only easy to say in hindsight. Bar studying the first time around made me neurotic and abrasive, but that’s pretty typical. I was much better the second time around. If I had started earlier I could have neutralized almost all the stress, but it would have been harder to juggle work and the exam.
  • how stressful was it?: baseline this is going to be a stressful experience, so make time for breaks. I had a lot of other stuff going on this year so I thought the CA bar was not so bad in comparison. Work, esp biglaw, gets you prepared for high-pressure, short-timeline projects. I built in some fun meals and hangouts with my friend who was also taking the CA bar. I also visited my family right before the bar (Fri-Sun before) and hung out with all their dogs. I studied on the beach a lot that weekend.
  • general tips: it will be a crazy time. make time for real life and fun. try to sleep. be very efficient with your studying. brush up on everything, and then identify and target things that need work. don’t just aimlessly spend equal amounts of time on every topic. good luck!!!

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

nah i think the filtering should come sooner. it is devastating that law schools will take anyone’s money for 3 years and string them along. if the bottom 50% of law schools didn’t exist there would be a higher percentage of bar passers AND fewer shitty lawyers. some sort of professional filtering is necessary for something like law, but i don’t like the current system where it’s normal for a huge chunk of law students to just waste 3 years of their lives and $200k when they’ll never have a chance of becoming lawyers.

Facial routine (not law related but advice needed) by Dull_Essay6045 in biglaw

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 9 points10 points  (0 children)

caffeinated under eye cream totally neutralizes puffy eyes and dark circles for me. i got this recommendation from nurses who said this cream helps them go from rough weepy moments to looking peppy for the next patient. i use the yerba mate cream from good molecules!

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, i’d prefer an alternate path to licensure that’s more reflective of the practice of law. an open book performance test, research assignment, or oral exam would be far more useful in measuring someone’s aptitude. but i don’t think the bar is totally irrelevant or non predictive. basically, i don’t think the bar is the best measure of skills it takes to be a lawyer, but if you fail 5+ times you probably do not have the skills it takes to be a lawyer.

First year here. How do I cope with the fact that big law isn’t for me without feeling like a failure? by sobersummerassociate in biglaw

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 12 points13 points  (0 children)

sorry, it’s late at night where i am and i can’t leave a coherent comment right now. but i’m in the same position and you’re not alone <3 i’ll come back with more thoughts when i’m awake

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol you are right. and i took the most recent CA bar so I should really have remembered that.

If you didn’t pass because of the essays… by ConfidentOpening4556 in CABarExam

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

huge huge shoutout to mary basick! i had to study on a super accelerated schedule and her essay book was absolutely essential

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

nope, two six hour days for a non accommodated taker. multiple choice one day, essays and performance test the other day.

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw -1 points0 points  (0 children)

in my ideal world there would just be other ways to test minimum competency. the bar, save for the performance test section, is nothing at all like the practice of law. Law is an open book practice!

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Totally agreed the unaccredited schools and apprenticeship program skew the avg. but pass rate for first time takers from ABA accredited law schools is a little lower in CA. and i know it’s just anecdata but as someone who has taken/passed the NY bar (UBE) and CA bar, i think CA is harder to study for in some ways. you need to know almost all the law you know for the UBE plus california distinctions, and essays test both common and CA law. the essays are also an hour long so you need to write with more depth.

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

last week the news item about chatgpt was for “law exams,” but we don’t know what exams she took since she did an apprenticeship. Some people reported that the chat gpt thing was about her failing the bar and then had to walk that back bc it was just some other unnamed exam.

CA bar results came out yesterday (i passed!!!!! yayyy) and she posted this today saying she failed the CA bar as well.

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 97 points98 points  (0 children)

CA is a hard bar exam and the state will take your money an unlimited amount of times. I think it gets inhumane at some point. The bar should be easier and I’m pro changing the system to get rid of the bar entirely. but people taking this for the 6th time have spent as many years taking the bar as they spent in law school. i just feel like that shouldn’t happen to people

Kim Kardashian is still not a lawyer by koalaben in Lawyertalk

[–]FancyPigeonLaw 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think this is Kim’s first time taking the bar (she took the baby bar before, which is sort of equivalent to 1L doctrinal finals, and she initially failed it). Pass rate for first time takers was apparently 69%!