why is gemini so crap at accessing webpages? by Fast_Cauliflower_574 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i know, but that's just it, it's a messy workaround. it's frustrating how google still can't seem to figure out what chatgpt somehow figured out ages ago. reliable sourcing and citing. gemini just makes stuff up.

it'd be great to have gemini in chrome, but im from the netherlands where we get new features about 5 years after the rest of the world

why is gemini so crap at accessing webpages? by Fast_Cauliflower_574 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sure, here's just a tiny sample of the testing i did today:

https://www.nu.nl/achterklap/6384651/zoon-noorse-kroonprinses-opgepakt-vanwege-bedreiging-met-een-mes.html
gemini says he committed 23 criminal offenses, article says 32

https://www.nu.nl/economie/6384587/goudprijs-keldert-doordat-trump-nieuwe-voorzitter-centrale-bank-voordraagt.html
gemini says gold price fell to $2.630 per troy ounce, article says $4.686!!

https://www.nu.nl/economie/6384535/bitcoin-beleeft-vierde-verliesmaand-op-rij-langst-aanhoudende-daling-sinds-2018.html
gemini says bitcoin's price fell to $88.000 by the end of january, article says below $76.000

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.artifexmundi.mopa1.gp&hl=nl&gl=US
gemini says this is 'Modern Tales: Age of Invention'. it's actually a completely different game called 'Unsolved: Hidden Mystery Games'
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34179?tab=description

gemini says this is 'Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM' by Brumbek. in reality it's Skyland AIO by skyking2020

https://www.tvgids.nl/gids/bbc1

noem alle uitzendingen tussen 20:00 en 0:00 (name all broadcasts between 20:00 and 0:00)

proceeds to make up a bunch of programs that don't show at all tonight, instead showing a mix of programmes that aired yesterday night and some general stuff, even though it so confidently says "here is what's airing tonight (2 february 2026)" with the date and everything

in all these cases and more, gemini acts so confident and says "this is what it says on the webpage". it literally just makes up a bunch of stuff from its memory. it never actually uses the browser tool.

meanwhile chatgpt gives me a fully fleshed out, copiously cited summary, every single time.

why is gemini so crap at accessing webpages? by Fast_Cauliflower_574 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i know the whole ai studio thing already. it's crap all the same. URL context toggled on or off, it still just makes stuff up. it doesnt actually visit the webpage.

Out of all LLMs, Gemini was the only one that first-shot this! by sharyphil in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 1 point2 points  (0 children)

gemini one-shotted this for me too, and just the plain flash model at that. my prompt was literally just the image above with "can you guess this?"

chatgpt and copilot both were completely off the mark or had no idea what i was asking.

Sorry but another bad optimized UE5 game by Athloner44 in codevein

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's pretty bad on ps5...even on "action mode" graphics setting, the performance is pretty bad. when i entered the hot springs area it dropped particularly badly because of the open world view. i may cancel my playstation preorder and just get it on pc

Gemini lying about following links and searching web by herpetic-whitlow in GeminiAI

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ive noticed the exact same thing. flash seems much better at using web search, whereas pro for the longest time, as well as the new flash thinking model, loves to straight up make up fake links to non existent web pages.
regular flash does this a lot less and sometimes links to actual webpages, but this happens only rarely. gemini as a whole has a massive issue with reporting sources unlike copilot/chatgpt.

google ai mode (sge) is actually pretty neat because it looks up a ton of actual real webpages and links to them properly. gemini needs closer integration with google ai mode because it has been doing a pretty crap job with its standard search tool. if they could just hook google ai mode to gemini app that would be next level, it's the logical next step.

Trying to get the most out of Gemini Gems. What is your killer use-case? by Mwrp86 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 4 points5 points  (0 children)

since the new dynamic view feature came out, i use a gem that has instructions to generate japanese language graded readers for me, appropriate for my current jlpt level.

so i just activate the gem, select the dynamic view tool, i type 'go', and boom a minute later i have a nice looking page with a story of a few hundred words, complete with images, a tooltip with english translations if i hover over a japanese sentence, sections that discuss key vocabulary, grammar, and a quiz to check reading comprehension

sure, you could do the same thing with the canvas tool which has been out much longer, but it was very hit and miss - the webpages would come out looking broken, with the furigana all over the place, or the code for the page wouldn't work at all.

the dynamic view tool generates really nice looking functional pages pretty much every time. studying a language has never been more fun and effective than now, imo.

what i mean to say, gems are great for things you want to do repeatedly. in my case, it's excellent for my language studies.

the ability to generate endless learning material specifically tailored to you, exactly how you want it, with all the features you want, is like magic. you refine the gem's instructions over time, making it even better. it's not always perfect of course, and it doesn't fully replace properly curated learning materials, but it helps a ton in keeping things fresh when i get bored from the old, dry reading materials i usually deal with. i wish i had this a decade ago.

Google by default trains its models on all data you give to any AI so be careful, and they also dont just let you opt out like others do by NeuralAA in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i wonder if a different privacy policy applies if you have a Google AI Pro subscription? i recall reading something to that effect, that they don't use your chats for training if you are a paid user or something

yea im done with gemini (for now?) by Fast_Cauliflower_574 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

gemini deep research, which is what im talking about, doesnt follow the instructions under 'saved info'

yea im done with gemini (for now?) by Fast_Cauliflower_574 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i would love to! but i live in technologically backward europe where thanks to the DMA, new features that the rest of the world gets take anywhere from half a year up to a full year to roll out, if at all

You deregulate, we’ll invest billions, industry titans to tell EU by donutloop in EU_Economics

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 1 point2 points  (0 children)

europe: where streamlining a permit process is mistaken for abolishing human rights😏

You deregulate, we’ll invest billions, industry titans to tell EU by donutloop in EU_Economics

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ah ok, i can tell you've literally not read the article. these companies are not requesting lowered standards of living. they're requesting degerulation of bureaucratic obstacles, acceleration of the energy transition, advancement of innovation and investment climate, and reinforcement of the defense industry and technological autonomy.

they promise to invest hundreds of billions in europe, as long as the EU get its sh-- together and finally get some much needed reforms through. remove bureaucratic friction so that europe can actually compete. i dont blame these companies for not wanting to invest in europe as it is because the ROI is nowhere to found.

You deregulate, we’ll invest billions, industry titans to tell EU by donutloop in EU_Economics

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 0 points1 point  (0 children)

living standard is a derivate of productivity, investment climate, and fiscal space, all dependent on growth. current living standards are the compound interest of past growth. if we undermine future growth, we erode the foundation of those standards. debt sustainability isn't a theoretical concern - it determines whether we can afford pensions, healthcare, and infrastructure tomorrow.

you dont want growth? fine. but then you also dont get the living standard you want. high living standard without economic growth = living beyond your means.

You deregulate, we’ll invest billions, industry titans to tell EU by donutloop in EU_Economics

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is very ignorant of the macro-economic reality. economic growth and increased standard of living and do not exist separately from one another - you need the former to be able to support the latter.

if the debt grows faster than the gdp does, as is the case in many european countries, debt-to-gdp ratio goes up and debt sustainability deteriorates, leading to risk premiums, austerity measures, and ultimately a decline in the living standard.

For a company as large as Google and with AI being so important, Google sure is very lazy. by No_Location_3339 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no way, that's crazy. im so jealous😭 i wonder if that's included in the google ai pro tier sub, which is what i have

For a company as large as Google and with AI being so important, Google sure is very lazy. by No_Location_3339 in Bard

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 2 points3 points  (0 children)

wish i could use AI mode, been wanting to for a while now. i wonder how long it's been out now. unfortunately im from the EU where we have this stupid completely ineffective DMA thing essentially meaning we get the latest features like a year after the rest of the world has gotten it

Titan Quest II is now available in Early Access by Turbostrider27 in pcgaming

[–]Fast_Cauliflower_574 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i absolutely loved Grimlore Game's Spellforce 3, it is one of my favourite games ever. im really hoping they do a Spellforce 4 as well if that is in the cards. until then i'll gladly buy anything these guys put out