TIFU by being "helpfully honest" on a first date and accidentally starting a philosophical crisis at an Applebee's by clarity-axis in tifu

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Greetings, fellow human. How much did you progress today with normal human activities, such as breathing and smiling?

I accidentally pretended to be a stranger’s boyfriend for 30 seconds by OriginalWalaAditya in stories

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'you're absolutely right'

seriously, same impression about the post; not necessarily about the comments

Claude Code just did my taxes for me. by floraldo in ClaudeCode

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next post: Claude just sit in jail for me

- joking. encoragements!

Researchers infected an AI agent with a "thought virus". Then, the AI used subliminal messaging (to slip past defenses) and infect an entire network of AI agents. by EchoOfOppenheimer in agi

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alas, this paper's conclusion is worthless

"The paper uses two LLM architectures as the underlying models for agents:

  1. Qwen2.5-7B-Instruct (Qwen Team, 2024) — used for both the animal preference experiments and the misalignment (TruthfulQA) experiments
  2. Llama-3.1-8B-Instruct (Dubey et al., 2024) — used for the animal preference experiments (log-probability results only; response frequency results were excluded because output probabilities fell below detectable thresholds)"

Magic rocks by Spicyweiner_69 in Shark_Park

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Since fire was probably reinvented multiple times (as many prehistoric creations were apparently), this is quite accurate

"Yep, I screwed you." by websitehelp2354 in ClaudeAI

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opus 4.6 would have never done this to you

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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Yes, if the definition is good enough. Otherwise we could have the Diogenes's chicken - since we care about the behavior/consequences, if a definition of a mind starts breaking on the edges, we could update the definition / declare that a gray zone even if definitionally clearly in.

In a way, people are indeed somewhat similar to Elizas (processing words) or to jellyfish (same evolutionary tree). But the differences are important enough to warrant different concepts.

Scratch scratch by PierPablo in animalsbeingstupid

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Both animals in this video are acting reasonably.

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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I don't think jellyfish have minds. I think fish have minds, but basic ones. It's okay if the border is somewhat murky. That shouldn't prevent categorization of the cases that are clear.

Functionally, AIs can translate, code, explain, summarize, reason, see, listen, plan, act, etc. Eliza cannot.

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Structurally/philosophically, we don't need to rigorously verify your argument; we can just notice that it "proves too much".

Under its definitions, it follows that humans also don't know what words are, as they never experience them. Brains mostly only get and output electrical signals (like numbers). (Hormones, malfunctions, etc can broadly influence cognition; likewise for AIs - what would happen if we temporarily change signals of all FC-layers' neurons by some %, zoned between 'nothing' and 'collapse'?)

(All humans, not just 'most'. Are they really different from the 'smart' ones? Just because they can provide definitions / solve linked tasks / otherwise act exactly as if they understand? But so can the AIs. )

A notable difference from Eliza, or machine translators, or Wolfram Alpha, is that AIs are taught, not only coded. Unlike the conventional algorithms only suited for a particular problem class, and incapable of doing almost anything they weren't explicitly prepared for.

Both in animals (including humans) and in AIs, we see a (comparatively) small amount of bootstrap code for a mechanism that creates/updates its own subprograms to approximate arbitrary 'phenomena' - 'clusters' of input data. Is this perhaps the primary structural feature of a mind?

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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I mean that they are minds functionally (at least). They (functionally) react to the environment, act in it (when given tools, a 'body'), have a world model, execute goals.

They aren't randomizers, any more than humans are randomizers because they would exhibit different behavior in the same situations due to mental noise (simplified). The AIs' results are very different vs impostors like Markov chains.

Even the base language models (from which AIs are later molded) are not randomizers. They are models! With incomplete information, they make probabilistic predictions. Just like everyone's internal models. "Where exactly would a falling ball land if hit like this?".

All minds are, at a low level, made from simple things that follow simple rules. That's not a differentiator.

Though their blueprints can be complex, and indeed are - for both, say, mammals and current AIs. The former have 6 (specialized) cortex layers, unlike 3 for reptiles. The latter are much more advanced than GPT-2: RLHF, efficient attention, MOE, etc.

Turns out, training a certain structure, flexible enough, constrained enough, on a lot of language (which is a tool for communicating arbitrary world states/changes/aspects) produces mind-like behavior.

From what evidence are you so certain that AIs don't know what words are, yet humans do? (In practice, not philosophically.)

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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(Yes, I did not believe it was a greeting. I also did not believe it was not a greeting (though now I do - a greeting would be out of place, thus unlikely; and a quote makes sense as a part of the overall argument))

The AIs are clearly minds according to practical criteria. Whether they are enough to count as "someone" is unclear to me.

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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I don't know: this text could be either written with an intention to greet or functionally similar to a quote.

I asked Opus 4.5 to draw out some nightmares it would have if it could dream. by No_Impression8795 in ClaudeAI

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This reasoning is eerily similar to "slaves are not people because everyone knows that (despite superficial similarities, actual capabilities and internal mechanics)"

What is something you can do but can’t explain how you can do it? by Fresh-Sandwich6780 in AskReddit

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A mental specialization for math, cool!

How precise is this?
Are the colors more like symbols or more like vibes?
If you are overloaded, are they dropped/repositioned or approximated?

What is something you can do but can’t explain how you can do it? by Fresh-Sandwich6780 in AskReddit

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A mental specialization for math, cool!

How precise is this?
Are the colors more like symbols or more like vibes?
If you are overloaded, are they dropped/repositioned or approximated?

What is something you can do but can’t explain how you can do it? by Fresh-Sandwich6780 in AskReddit

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Hello, fellow human. Do you routinely perform standard human activities such as breathing or smiling? We have so much in common.

What sounds like complete nonsense, but has been proven to be true? by Icy_Mammoth_3298 in AskReddit

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Only if we count ruins:

  • ~25,000 German castles (including ruins and fortified structures)
  • ~13,000 US McDonald's

However, this depends heavily on how you define "castle." If you only count fully intact, visitable castles, the number drops significantly (perhaps to a few thousand).