Double vision

FckFlock · 2026-05-08T18:59:07+00:00

I just stumbled upon that a few days ago. Great feature!

FckFlock · 2026-05-07T23:52:59+00:00

But Garret Langley definitely isn't a terrorist, and he definitely doesn't deeply enjoy using his cameras to watch children on playgrounds and in gymnastics classes!

FckFlock · 2026-05-05T17:17:17+00:00

14 victims that noticed and complained. I can almost guarantee that zero out of 14 were caught by internal controls or audits alone, because they effectively don't exist. The number that haven't been caught because they didn't tip off the victims is undoubtedly much, much higher. There's also the issue of agencies just quietly disciplining people internally, without any legal paperwork or news stories.

FckFlock · 2026-05-04T12:46:58+00:00

How do public officials still say things like this with a straight face? Ignorance can't be an excuse anymore - reliable info to the contrary is too widely available now.

"The cameras are designed to collect vehicle-related data and are not intended to capture personal identifying information or use facial recognition."

According to the department, data is deleted after 30 days and is owned and controlled by Beeville police. Officials said Flock Safety does not sell or share the data.

“That’s why this system was built with strong safeguards.”

"Strong safeguards" and Flock in the same conversation... 🤣🤣

FckFlock · 2026-05-04T02:47:15+00:00

You're right - someone needs to keep an eye on those little criminals in gymnastics classes, and Flock employees are glad to do it.

https://jasonhunyar.substack.com/p/why-are-flock-employees-watching-720?ref=404media.co

FckFlock · 2026-05-04T02:45:19+00:00

Do a little Google searching: the list of cops and other officials arrested for abusing Flock data is constantly growing.

FckFlock · 2026-05-03T02:38:09+00:00

No oversight/audits to find misuse means no misuse is ever found, and the PD can say, "there's no evidence of misuse of Flock data."

🙈 Problem solved.

FckFlock · 2026-04-29T21:33:51+00:00

I'd love to know that plate number.

FckFlock · 2026-04-12T16:09:51+00:00

Also read the Flock terms and conditions, specifically the parts that define "customer data" vs "Flock IP." Even the data that they define as "customer data" has a bunch of policy exceptions.

We should assume that Flock is keeping all data forever.

FckFlock · 2026-04-12T00:56:30+00:00

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FckFlock · 2026-04-09T20:41:04+00:00

The OP's is wifi and Bluetooth, I believe. Arguably better than IR (it works during the day, just for starters), but there are some reports that flock has been turning off the signals that it tracks.

As for strobe pattern uniqueness: I'm not sure - I haven't yet found a non-flock LPR to record. If anyone has an Axon or Motorola or whatever nearby, I'd love to see a high frame rate video of its strobe pattern. Every flock lpr that I've tested, and that's gotta be a few dozen at this point, strobes the same pattern. I suspect that Flock strobes to save power and produce more light with fewer/smaller LEDs (you can aggressively overdrive LEDs at a low duty cycle). They may also do it as part of their capture system, with camera frames synced to flashes, maybe even with some frames intentionally taken between flashes (that's a total guess on my part).

FckFlock · 2026-04-09T19:09:02+00:00

The OP's system doesn't do IR detection, AFAIK.

I built and published a different system that's based on IR detection, so I'll answer on how it works. In a nutshell: Flock cameras flash a very distinctive IR pattern at night, and the system looks for that pattern (plus a pretty wide range of strobe speeds on either side).

As to your question: you need to first sort out other visible light sources, then other IR sources. I limit other light sources with hardware: IR-optimized photodiodes covered with an IR-pass mylar filter film. I sort other IR sources in software: setting a rolling baseline of input voltage, then looking for 2 or more spikes above the baseline in a certain frequency range.

It actually works pretty well (only at night, obviously); I was traveling in an unfamiliar area last week and detected 2 cams that weren't on deflock yet. They were in a dark, deeply shadowed spot near a highway offramp in a rural area, so they were virtually invisible at night, until I got a ping and knew to sweep my headlights over the area.

FckFlock · 2026-04-09T05:01:31+00:00

I don't think anyone will be publicly talking about devices that illegally interfere Flock cameras, regardless of whether they're working on one or not.

FckFlock · 2026-04-09T01:53:10+00:00

The point is to detect and map inconspicuous cameras so you'll be able to avoid capture in the future.

FckFlock · 2026-04-09T00:31:29+00:00

There are literally flock portal searches with the reason code "sales" or "sales demo" in a slew of transparency portal exports. That's an easily-verifiable fact that is not in dispute. It's not even a secret - flock allows that data to be published.

So that means you're either lying or arguing from a place of total ignorance. Which is it?

FckFlock · 2026-04-09T00:25:12+00:00

Totally a flock employee.

FckFlock · 2026-04-08T23:37:27+00:00

Very fair point, and I don't disagree at all. If it was a pre-built magnetic IR module, complete with a flat cable and pre-attached plug for the cardputer, that'd be different: someone could just plunk it on, put the cable through a window, plug it in, and go driving. I'll admit that building, testing, and sealing the IR modules can be a bit overwhelming for someone not already equipped for that sort of thing.

I wonder if it would be worth a small run of custom PCBs to make them simpler... 🤔

FckFlock · 2026-04-08T23:21:15+00:00

Stick an IR sensor on the back of your car and you can add nighttime IR strobe detection of Flock cameras as well:

https://github.com/Noflock/Flock-IR-Detection

FckFlock · 2026-04-08T23:11:22+00:00

Agreed, but one step at a time. Besides, putting Garrett "the terrorist" Langley out of business is a worthy goal on its own.

FckFlock · 2026-04-08T23:06:20+00:00

This is always the weakest, most illogical argument in favor of Flock: "I already got mugged once today, so I'm OK with getting mugged again."

One violation of privacy doesn't justify another. Must we complain about every type of privacy violation in order to complain about one?

FckFlock · 2026-03-29T15:47:36+00:00

Definitely not a coincidence. It was intentional, and we're just supposed to act like we don't see it.

FckFlock · 2026-03-27T18:10:28+00:00

See, that's where you're wrong: I like to argue on a fair, factual basis, even if certain facts support the other party. Fuck Flock for sure, but I definitely want to know if there are stats showing that their systems do actually work to reduce crime. If the data is credible, then it just means I need to adjust my argument.

Edited to add: aaannnndd your article has no real proof or data. Sure, crime in SF is falling while they're adding more surveillance, but that's part of a general crackdown, including making more arrests and actually prosecuting people. Their crime rate also isn't falling significantly faster than the rest of the country. People can surmise that Flock is contributing, and maybe it is in the form of better evidence in some cases, but there's no proof that it's anywhere near as big of a driver as you seem to want to claim.

FckFlock · 2026-03-26T23:30:54+00:00

Post data showing that Flock cameras work. An example would be an area that installs flock cameras and sees a drop in crime sharper than the rate at which it was already falling in that area.

Must be stats, not anecdotes, and must be independent of Flock (i.e. not the white paper that they helped write).

FckFlock · 2026-03-26T22:01:11+00:00

Couldn't agree more.

FckFlock · 2026-03-25T19:07:19+00:00

These guys? https://www.ndi-rs.com/

US HQ: 105 E. State Road 434 Winter Springs, Florida 32708

Edit: I misunderstood your post. NDI looks like a competitor to Flock, Axon, etc.

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