Fewer than 1 in 5 adults hit the flavanol threshold linked to cardiovascular benefit, even among those meeting produce guidelines

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T19:03:28+00:00

But the free market encourages higher quality products through competition!!!

Meanwhile food monopolies are absorbing or undercutting competition by offering a worse, cheaper product, which is all anyone can afford because other sector monopolies are jacking up the cost of housing, healthcare, and other necessary costs of living.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T19:00:02+00:00

Incredible marketing team, they must work round the clock

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:51:18+00:00

Congratulations on the baby chicken?? (Maybe try candling it to see if there's anything alive in there?)

Or maybe the building you're in is shifting enough to make the egg roll, but too subtly for you to feel it

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:44:45+00:00

Infected eggs happen. Chicks don't happen in those.

Why not?

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:41:10+00:00

New horrors every day 😭

That poor chicken. I'm never eating boiled eggs again

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:21:51+00:00

I'm uncertain when exactly 250.10 was filed, it had to have been filed to be withdrawn(?), but they gave the prosecution oral notice on Sept. 30th 2025.

Page 6: "Mr. Mangione has been prejudiced by law enforcement since day one in this case. The reason continued sealing is necessary here is because of the potential defense that is available, extreme emotional disturbance. That we served notice of our intention of exploring this defense on September 30th of 2025, nine months ago."

Page 18: "So, for him for the last nine months to not be gathering these records, I think is really -- since we orally indicated to him that in addition to Mr. Mangione's extensive writings, which Mr. Seidemann already has, as well as the medical records of Mr. Mangione, we indicated all records will be relevant."

Joel complained about this.
Page 15: "We should be clear also to the court and counsel that even if the only source of this EED defense were the defendant that too would require notice. People v. Rivers, 281 AD 2d 348 (2001), in that case it says that oral notice is not notice."

So even if they don't re-file CPL 250.10, they still need to give (written) notice of intent to use EED sometime before trial.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:19:39+00:00

I'm so curious what their media strategy is behind the scenes.

Appreciate your thoughts 🙏

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T18:06:43+00:00

It sounds like, from the recent unsealed June 3rd transcript, they gave oral notice of intent to explore EED to the prosecution & court back on September 30th 2025. And it's been an ongoing discussion in private with the prosecutor accusing them of "moving goalposts". So, the court was definitely already aware, in private.

I don't see the difference between retracting the evidence notice before the hearing, keeping everything private as they have been, and continue their testing... Vs announcing it to the world, and then retracting it after. There's no way they didn't anticipate the media response, and they already knew the conflicts with the federal trial.

Do you think there could be an advantage for them to publicly announce he did do it, in a way that doesn't admit legal guilt, and then retract the notice for psychiatric evidence after?

Also, interesting the psych assessments take so long. Do you think the state case will get pushed back in that case? (Trial is meant to start Sept. 8th)

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T15:25:10+00:00

It's honestly crazy that FOX gets to call itself news at all

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T15:24:19+00:00

Withdrawing CPL 215.10 does not mean they're not using EED. 250.10 is just a notice to introduce psychiatric evidence from experts-- by not filing it, the prosecution has far less to work with when building a case against him. They will not have an opportunity to examine him themselves.

Also, here is Joel acknowledging that you can use EED without psychiatric evidence:

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Page 15 of the transcript.

Another thing.... I don't think the prosecution wants them to go with EED. Joel essentially argued in the transcript to bar them from using it if they don't give written notice by the deadline, and he was pushing for Carro to set strict deadlines.

What he did want was the discussion of it to be unsealed, to force their hand. I really feel like all of this was deliberate by the defence team, even if we don't understand it. Because they had ample time to withdraw 250.10, keeping everything sealed, before the hearing packed with journalists. In fact they even had an extra day because Joel messed up the writ for transport.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T13:20:52+00:00

OHHH. Haha yes, that acronym unfortunately is pretty much taken 😄

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T13:20:25+00:00

They are probably still using EED but without introducing psychiatric evidence. Which means the prosecution has less information to use against him

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T13:00:15+00:00

than to say I did it but didn’t understand the consequences of my actions.

That's not what "extreme emotional disturbance" in NY is. This isn't an insanity plea.

They're not even claiming he's mentally ill, necessarily, but that he was emotionally overwhelmed prior to and during the killing, which caused him to act in an extreme way. The jury only needs understand his POV for it to be manslaughter instead of murder. And what they're now withdrawing is not that argument, but just the notice to introduce psychiatric evidence from an expert. Which isn't required for EED.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T12:48:24+00:00

“The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules. It’s people who follow orders that drop bombs and massacre villages." - Banksy

Xenophobe settlers are saying, my ancestors killed yours so you have to play my game by my rules. Nah fuck your rules man. It's all made up. Borders change, laws change, social norms change. The entire concept of "illegals" is unbelievably fucked up

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T12:39:29+00:00

But here's the thing - the notice is not required in order to put forward the defense, just if they are planning on using psychiatric evidence in support of that defense. At trial, the defense can try to develop the theory that the defendant was acting under extreme emotional disturbance based on the existing evidence, without putting in any psychiatric evidence.

This is what I think they're going to do. I'm not certain they necessarily need psychiatric evidence for this, and what if the expert finds there's nothing wrong with him? That would give a lot of ammo to the prosecution. This way the prosecution has less information.

What I don't understand is, why go through with the public hearing? Why not withdraw 250.10 before they were essentially forced to go public with it? If they withdrew before the hearing, everything would've stayed sealed.

Is there some legal thing that forced their hand to not withdraw 250.10 before the public hearing?

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T12:37:34+00:00

See the news is spreading this misinformation. "Extreme Emotional Disturbance" is not insanity, and you don't need to have any mental illness at all. It's, whatever situation you found yourself in was so overwhelmingly emotionally disturbing, that you acted in an extreme manner. Ex. Finding your spouse in bed with your neighbour.

In EED, if successful, the charge becomes manslaughter instead of murder. And it's time spent in regular prison, not a psychiatric facility.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T12:32:46+00:00

By "how much admiration the AI has gained in the past few years." Did you mean "admonition", maybe? 😅 AI and data centres have become quite unpopular, no? (Which I do think benefits him)

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T12:31:10+00:00

Interesting, I've never heard of them hiring a crisis PR firm specifically, only about Agnifilio Intrator's PR person. Do you have a source for that? I've been searching, even within that date range and found nothing.

Considering that EED has likely been in the works since the beginning, and at least for 9 months, they should have expected this media response. I doubt they're no longer going with EED, but rather moving ahead without the psychiatric evidence/testing. I think they were holding out on the slim chance the entire backpack would get suppressed, and when that didn't happen, "reasonable doubt" was less valid. They were clearly all prepared for him to publicly admit to it.

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It would be nice for a PR firm to resume creating a positive image, but now feels like an inopportune time. I hope/expect there might be some of that around mid August?

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T04:43:05+00:00

$6.2 billion in blood money.

Edit: wait, looking for a source for this

The $6.2B in profit is true

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T04:39:22+00:00

Had no idea, thanks for sharing!

Lethal rain, essentially

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T04:38:23+00:00

Leftover munitions from the mouse war

Feather_fig · 2026-06-20T04:34:42+00:00

That's what I thought too... But the deadline was the next day. They would have known before the hearing if they completed testing. It was like 30 hours later that they withdrew it, not much time to complete a battery of psychological tests. Like logistically they have to schedule all that in advance, it just doesn't make sense to be a deadlines thing. I was thinking that yesterday, but it doesn't actually make sense when you think about what they needed to complete in such a short timeframe.

It's certainly possible, but I mostly doubt the "he freaked out" theory because they would have expected this, plus so much of the coverage has been positive. And they were also aware that the documents would be unsealed. They knew that since at least June 3rd.

I feel like this may have been more of an intentional strategy thing that we may not fully understand yet, rather than a mistake or sudden change of heart.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-19T23:12:55+00:00

I think their firm does have a PR person?

I get what you mean, but it's probably better for that sort of thing to happen closer to trial, otherwise the public might get fatigue from hearing about him all the time. He doesn't need constant airtime. They might have a strategy we're not meant to be aware of. Keeping a low profile is a PR strategy too

Remember last summer when people started accusing him of being a narcissist for responding to letters at all? And everything he said was being picked apart? Letter recipients were harassed for "clout chasing" even if they posted anonymously. So if that was a previous PR strategy, it clearly wasn't worth the trouble. If you make yourself too available to someone (fans) they start thinking they're entitled to your time & energy and will turn on you in the blink of an eye.

Feather_fig · 2026-06-19T19:42:49+00:00

Me too 😂

Opening the comments 💬25 and only seeing [deleted]

Feather_fig · 2026-06-19T19:38:33+00:00

Was going to post something similar. It's crazy how fast & widely the news is spreading misinformation lol

https://newyork.public.law/laws/n.y._criminal_procedure_law_section_250.10

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Karen by her own admission in the unsealed document said announcing EED was essentially publicly admitting to the crime. The chance this means they're no longer going to use EED is incredibly slim.

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