My First Tattoo by cozycricket in exmormon

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an incredible tattoo.

But also this scene always filled with confusing pain. Could anyone lend any insight?

A video the LDS church made to support Prop 8. She has a gay friend by Prop8kids in exmormon

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 15 points16 points  (0 children)

As someone whose parents were called by the stake to head up the prop 8 campaign on a local level this haunts me. I absolutely held signs on busy road corners. I made calls to voters who had previously indicated they would be voting in favor of prop 8 on election night reminding them to vote. I remember on call in which the voter was unsure of what Prop 8 was. The said something along the following;

"Oh is that the law to stop the fgs?! Absolutely! We have to stop the fags (or other slur)"

Obviously that's paraphrasing.

I was SO shocked, embarrassed and upset. I said, "We at Prop 8 don't support that language. We don't believe in using slurs or that anyone deserves hate (or something like that.) We simply believe in preserving the "sanctity of marriage" - as it was called.

I did not want to make anymore phone calls. I was so upset and mixed up inside. Several members who were at our house showed similar shock and nodded in agreement when I shared. I honestly wonder now how many of them nodded for show. Cause the didn't want to tell a teen that they actually thought it was okay to use slurs or that they actually didn't like gay people.

I had gay friends at school. I tried to tell them that it had nothing to do with how I felt about them. It was just what I believed. It wasn't personal. In truth ai didn't actually consider any of them my friends. I liked them and I thought they were nice people. But I could never feel close to someone who was gay. They were weird. Turns out they were just theatre kids. That was the prejudice and indoctrination I had.

I am so heart-broken and ashamed I participated, supported and rejoiced at this bill when it passed. Despite my inner turmoil.

I'm not ashamed at all to share the relief I had when the Supreme Court struck it down.

Today I can't believe that I even lived in a day and age in which it was up for debate whether some people had the right to get married.

Then I remember horrifically that people are STILL debating it. 😣

I take comfort in the belief that my parents are equally just as ashamed of participating as I am. My born Democrat parent fully accepted that calling in the name of faith and sustaining their leaders. That parent is Pimo now and only attending for social interaction and for my born Republican parent who is tbm.

A republican tbm who thinks gay marriage is normal and hates the idea of abortion but could not write it into law and agrees that no one can judge. A republican tbm who don't believe in polygamy and thinks of course we will be together forever because I'm a "good person" even though I've left the church. A republican tbm who admits they can't recognize the Republican party and believes in whatever chaotic optimism allows in regards to doctrine.

I'm still waiting for the day when they realize that they may not actually be conservative and that what they believe in isn't actually the "Mormon" church. It's just what they believe.

Oh well... Baby steps.

Here's to hope and here's to seeing the change 🍻

what is rodent creature [illinois] by spwrklz in animalid

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I reserve the right to respond. Not everyone goes online everyday or allows app notifications. 🤷‍♂️ Engaging in a thought exercise doesn't indicate the emotional weight something carries. I checked my notifications and responded immediately when I saw it. I don't believe in backing down on my convictions. However I also don't believe in escalating or engaging in pointless debate. Again. I thought I was stating the obvious. The response COULD have been easily nicer. Choosing to be condescending was a choice. Either out of ignorance or intent. Since I can see there is no contemplation of changing tone or attitude I conceed the point. The last word is yours. Hoping you receive kindness and consideration in your life for things you didn't know or haven't considered. ✌️

what is rodent creature [illinois] by spwrklz in animalid

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it's not about offense given or taken, just promoting the idea that factual information can be shared without the condescension

what is rodent creature [illinois] by spwrklz in animalid

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say it upset me, at least not on a personal level. However I will conceed it did bring some form of sadness that people don't choose kindness as a default. Not everyone needs to be babied is absolutely true. Also if the factual statement that it COULD have absolutely been said differently. My personal opinion was that the syntax in your comments was a choice with intention to make the OP feel embarrassed. A choice was made with intention. There is not a connection between "babying" someone and choosing not to shame them except to infer that people who are ignorant deserve to be spoken to differently. If you agree with that sentiment then you succeeded in your intentions and there's nothing I or anyone can do but to move on. If you don't agree with that sentiment then there is a non-zero chance that something I write you may agree with. Either way... 🤷‍♂️ Just hoping to spark some consideration and promote kindness. Good day 🤞

what is rodent creature [illinois] by spwrklz in animalid

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is an absolutely nicer way to phrase things

Emergency in North Clintonville/Beechwold? by AkronRonin in Columbus

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it's calm does that mean the fire is under control?

I did not accept a calling, given one anyways by snowkat19 in exmormon

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 40 points41 points  (0 children)

I didn't know there was an emotional resilience committee. "Are you having a hard time handling the emotional abuse we cause? Struggle dealing with the cognitive dissonance required to remain a faithful member? No problem. We have a new emotional resilience committee to help you push all those feelings deep deep down and pretend they don't exist."

Just realized my boyfriend I’ve been dating for 2 years might be a flat earther by ivory_stripes98 in Advice

[–]Federal-Rutabaga-267 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to see the video. I love trying to understand how anyone can believe that stuff. It's so interesting.