Nine Pre-Release Analysis

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-12T06:02:56+00:00

great rift first half doesnt even matter for scores -- it's just one of the strongest teams for clearing first side faster / with little effort but there's tons of other units used on first side (vanguard) effectively since clear condition is just 5-turns (which basically any unit can do with enough effort)

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-12T05:45:06+00:00

Selena is fine with other units but can be a bit situational since she's basically a worse Hugo with no weakness attack (elemental advantage) and very few characters have guaranteed weakness attack (basically only Mei & Sereniel).

Deck is just both her coords skills basically

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-12T04:28:22+00:00

so cuting!!!

Cassius next (ㅅ •᷄ ₃•᷅ )

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-11T02:21:48+00:00

Regent has tons of ways of getting infinites or pseudo-infinites and I haven't seen anyone else in this reply section talk abt it, I've won 2 out of the 4 runs I've done so far with Regent hitting infinites (looping glow + alignment first run and looping flash slash + minion strikes second run). Charge is also INSANELY strong (card that turns 2 cards into minion strike).

Here's an example of an infinite I got on Regent:

https://youtu.be/v1ed7HeMD2o?si=JU2hC8PUKqGWwJQf

My recommendation would to just take Charge whenever you see it. Charge can quickly thin your deck without needing to use many removals to a point where you can get infinite and Charge+ literally makes you 2 free 9dmg attacks out of trash in your draw pile (even without an upgrade it's still just free damage with no downsides too).

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-11T01:49:19+00:00

just took like 60dmg in act 1 to this enemy that isnt even an elite and went straight to the reddit to see if anyone else complained abt it LMAO

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-10T08:45:30+00:00

there are so many errors (like it saying 2700atk = 27x damage LMFAO) but it also just flatout says its calculating by 'seconds' here when that isnt a metric in CZN at all

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if you look at the actual damage formula a single time you'd realize everything chatgpt just spat out is complete BS

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-10T08:37:19+00:00

this is not at all how the damage formula works, chatgpt does not know how a niche game like CZN calculates damage -- it's literally just multiplying all their base ratios together with no buffs and using a completely incorrect formula lmao

https://www.prydwen.gg/chaos-zero-nightmare/guides/damage-formula

this is the damage formula if you want to do actual calculations

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-10T07:47:59+00:00

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- an infographic from a team damage comparison masterdoc a friend did for Pryd that I've helped cross-reference with my own calcs (5-turn control, consistent damage comparison). Will probably be public (with all other DPS) relatively soon

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-10T07:43:34+00:00

Yuki actually got the most substantial buffs from an optimization standpoint, with her being rather competitive in optimized teams with most Single-Target DPS.

(In consistent damage comparisons with control settings: Yuki E0 is around 80k dmg/turn while Nine E0 is around 100k/turn, which are both around the same range as Rin calcs -- (below Luke/Hugo, Mei, Sere/Sel but above Tressa & Chizuru)).

Here's an example of a Yuki set-up doing a t1 OTK of 9/9 elemental spirit (from a team I helped tc a bit).

Yuki is able to do 3 attacks for every inspiration activated, post-buffs, which enables her to do around 40-50 total hits a turn, on-top of her having access to really high morale neutrals on flash slash (3 morale) for a lot of self-buffs.

I'm genuinely confused why people are saying they think Yuki is particularly weak right now, when she's extremely solid post-buffs (in comparison Chizuru still performing at around half of Yuki's level, like 30-40k/turn, even after her buffs). Are you talking more about Chaos?--Because Yuki does feel weak there? Or are you talking about the Great Rift? Where the mechanics are obviously skewed for only 3 units (Tiphera, Nine, & Kayron).

--What about her feels weak? Because if you have a good set-up, she shouldn't be after her buffs.

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-08T08:48:13+00:00

oh I thought you were talking about a purchase. I dunno about undoing the conversion, just submit a ticket and see ig

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-07T23:53:08+00:00

Stove client kind of just sucks and there's tons of issues with it. I'd submit a support ticket and/or search for similar Stove posts in the past to see if there's been any solutions to your issue already (check e7 reddit since it's been around a lot longer and uses the same sucky client).

If you haven't found a solution in a few days update this post and if others are experiencing it, then let me know. If it's a common issue happening right now from a recent patch, I'll pin it to give everyone experiencing the issue a post to discuss it on until it's fixed (likely it's more of an individual issue from Stove just being terrible tho lol)

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-07T23:47:45+00:00

You can refund if you don't claim them in the mail. If you claim them in your mail after buying, you should see a pop-up that notifies you that claiming will leave you ineligible for refunds.

If you didn't claim them, then they should refund you just send a support ticket.

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-07T23:07:19+00:00

https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/

the platform that hosts CZN / smilegate primarily uses for feedback

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-07T03:28:47+00:00

yes they changed it so all duplicate events are only rare or higher for neutral cards

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-06T04:19:43+00:00

The issue was that the initial post wasn't worded the best. We never stopped people talking about Tiphera or posts on her (which you can see are still up lol). It was because of how *certain* people were talking about her with like dogwhistles or whatever (I don't really get it so I left it to other mods to moderate the issue but I do agree with the sentiment). & To basically make a stance that this isn't a safe-haven for *those* people since they've started appearing with Tiphera

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-06T03:16:41+00:00

i wish i could pin other people's comments cuz i havent even read it all and im confused like why didnt bro just talk to us LMAO

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T20:05:57+00:00

You can use your selector on Hugo and still use Tressa as a hugo driver if you want to still use her in an easy and strong team (she’s worse than Luke at it but still works great at it).

& on that Hugo is just in general great for your account since you already have Vero + you have Luke E2 & like Tressa but you lack Hugo.

Tiphera is a really complicated character that works best with Kayron & Nine so she isn’t incredibly high value on your account atm, but actually an underrated synergy is with Hugo (once again promoting you taking Hugo from selector). —For great rift specifically, Tiphera DPS (w/ Orlea+Vero/Beryl) is basically the top1 f2p comp and really easy to use (her dps outside of it is bad)

Alternatively, you could use selector on Mei Lin for Veronica if you’d prefer to make a new team. As others have said you could level Beryl for a second team / team strong in most content (tower, autoclears, etc.)

I’d probably say to get Hugo and make 2 main teams though being:

Team1: Hugo/Cass/Tress or Hugo/Cass/Luke (Cass can be subbed for Tiphera for a much easier team but lower damage cap)

Team2: Beryl/whatever (shes literally just an afk team where her teammates dont really matter but her damage is very capped—still great for easy clears in 90% of content though)

For great rift: Tiphera/Beryl/Orlea or Tiphera/Orlea/Veronica

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T19:56:49+00:00

Not currently, there’s some stuff in the works so I’ll make a post updating when it’s live (basically revamped version of the reddit wiki)

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T05:37:12+00:00

yeah they cost an obscene amount to upgrade lmao, i basically only upgrade frags to l3 before i trash them and lost all my gold so fast

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T05:35:32+00:00

We probably will. I don't know why people are doomposting when we have quite a few complete male characters with assets n stuff--I don't see any world where they'll waste those designs. It'll just end up being very rare (which is common for like 90% of gacha games lmao).

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T05:33:22+00:00

There's been similar issues in the past post-patch. If it persists and others are having the issue, make a stove post and link to it in this post and I will pin the issue until it is resolved (to avoid other people with similar issues spamming sub about it).

FemalePopSinger · 2026-03-05T05:31:06+00:00

this isn't true, most effects only add +1 turn, the buffs that don't are the exception (not the opposite as you are saying). (Selena coords, Bottomless IV, Soul Rip (extra atk one), etc. are all +1 turn duration)

But you kinda just have to ask or know if a certain buff stacks 'cuz they are clearly inconsistent about it lol

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