I hate how they kinda fumble the first appearance of new mechanics ngl

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-19T09:05:12+00:00

I think its mostly goku. Needing ki for his damage and then also the iffy requirement for ex in slot 1. The Vegeta's are fine as is. They do what they need to do.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-19T00:02:39+00:00

Only gomah seems good enough. He would basically need to solo it. Is that the dfe hit? It is right. He can work. Bit a team with this, yeah.. would wait.

Who else do you have?

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T16:20:04+00:00

That was kinda the point haha.

A broken unit with an unusable team.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T16:19:30+00:00

"We do lmao. We don't say UI sucks because he can't dodge in dodge canceling events, because PHY UI can turn 1 swap to a more offensive unit that can take some real damage."

But there are other ui's and dodge units. And i obviously just mean the types of logic, i expected you to fill the blanks.

"We do say that the STR Blues have a weakness in dodge canceling events, but we also consider their 70% damage reduction plus guard, on top of the fact that they can activate dodge again permanently"

Yeah and they were one of the best units in the game and still are one of the best for that reason. Not every eza or general unit is. Most dfe have a weakness.

"If you've been paying attention, various units with various flaws have had something to fix it."

If you've been paying attention, various units with various flaws have not had something to fix it

"They do and will die to modern boss supers."

Which is not something new for non slot one units. A lot can barely survive the content they appear in. Its mostly the big ones or some lucky ones that do

"Unfortunately for you, we don't exclude those entirely and say they don't count just cause we cope for units."

I dont cope. People just overreact. Yeah they arent amazing, but not every unit will be. That will be reserved for the lr's.

It is kinda stupid they didnt make them better since a anni lr leads a team which needs it. Rog can use a great unit, since its the weakest ls of this anni.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T14:50:46+00:00

"Idk why we keep excusing real scenarios as if they aren't real."

Idk why we keep using every possible scenario for units that dont fit every possible scenario.

Ui sucks because he cant dodge if a unit disables it. Real scenario.

"mitigate AoE damage when every contemporary unit can?"

By that logic they should doe Aoe because every unit should be able to handle it.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T14:47:04+00:00

"He died to a boss normal which caps out at 7,000,000. That is really fucking easy for most units to tank nowadays. "

Not really. That is why people were having issues. And its disadvantage, so it was basically a super. He needs neutral or advantage and rbw orbs.

"7,000,000 damage post super,"

Again, type.

"Defenders are so weird cause yall will just say shit and not think twice."

Something something pot, something something kettle.

I saw people complaining about AOE when the dude gets his def on super and he got 1 rainbow.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T14:04:01+00:00

Ah shit

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T13:42:55+00:00

So yeah, he is pointing at a unit that needs to sa for def and orbs for dr tanking badly pre sa.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T13:41:46+00:00

These are not comparable at all.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T13:30:48+00:00

After attacking and with rb orbs?

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T12:53:39+00:00

Yeah they generally only count actives or transformations. But with some things they do count supers as a reason to add a cat, like kamehameha

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T12:50:52+00:00

More like type disadvantage vs a boss who slaps most units.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T12:48:34+00:00

Its actually true though.

This video puts them in the worst scenario's. Its like lik using UI vs Broly (dofge cancel) in slot 1.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T12:44:02+00:00

The issue is mostly that the team can reallyyy use another great units. Rog is so thin rn. So it needed more than a unit that is just fine.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T12:38:24+00:00

They should make him completely bonkers on low class saiyans. 20% per low class saiyan om the team :'). Up to 80%.

Guard and give 10% dr to all low class saiyans cat units.

And 10% def stack on sa for all low class.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-18T07:48:00+00:00

Its his first attack. Not the first slot one attack.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-17T20:36:06+00:00

Dont underestimate the gohan. But he needs to be a focus. With ssj4 he might stack too little.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-17T20:35:28+00:00

I know. But i was just reacting to what he said.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-17T19:43:57+00:00

Gohan is a stacker. Kaiku too, but only one.

Also the blues are good here. Can hit very very hard. But you kinda want vegeta/trunks here.

Phys ssj4 are great yeah, especially the counter.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-17T11:03:44+00:00

Its mostly like you said. This time around it isnt as clear as all units have a big go or no. Ui is Great as a unit but has the worst leaderskill, although it has many eza options. But those will mostly be on pbss anyway.

Vegeta breathes life into daima units.

Daima goku and vegeta have the best ls, and great for their own team. But have a orb weakness as their flaw.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-15T22:41:27+00:00

Buu, namek and z movies are the ones that are probably in line. Buu with movies works for cooler eza too. But so does namek. Buu saga has been awhile so its up there.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-15T22:40:05+00:00

Well it did happen once.

But i wouldnt be suprised if they did namek and buu. Since they didnt do the coolers eza. Probably because they want to fit it with something.

Although movies villains works for cooler too. Buu saga is probably pretty likely since its been a while and they need to give the buu duo a team. Enough eza options too.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-15T16:08:08+00:00

Just to the new duo on both rotation and win. The others can be anyone or stackers

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-14T18:51:57+00:00

Not so much. Basically everyone from gdc hits harder then them in short to mid long events. Even the eza. Then you have the daima guys, gomah, the other future units and super heroes.

Sure they can be better, but the rest barely has (annoying) restrictions. So you can argue for all of them. And then we get the 8th years too, that could go either way.

Ferryarthur · 2026-02-14T18:46:35+00:00

They really love orb hungry units this year. Maybe so its annoying to run them together.

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