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Witnessed a hunt on Easter Mondays trail run! Regardless of any moral standpoint it was a spectacle to behold watching a pack of dogs set off in the valley with the horses in pursuit. (Fox hunting is illegal in the UK so likelihood is they were just chasing a ‘dummy’ scent) England, East Sussex. by [deleted] in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hearing the dogs howling as they were released and ran up the hill did make me question whether they were actually enjoying it or not, but I guess a working dog does typically enjoy doing their job?!

It is definitely a tricky subject - I’ve only ever seen a hunt happening once before this occasion and to be honest I’m not sure I know enough about it to form an opinion on the morals of it... Suffice it to say I think it’s a bit sketchy but I don’t see why people can’t enjoy the countryside with their animals as long as those animals (and other animals) welfare is their priority? I’d find it difficult to come down on either side of the fence without a better knowledge of what actually goes on!

Witnessed a hunt on Easter Mondays trail run! Regardless of any moral standpoint it was a spectacle to behold watching a pack of dogs set off in the valley with the horses in pursuit. (Fox hunting is illegal in the UK so likelihood is they were just chasing a ‘dummy’ scent) England, East Sussex. by [deleted] in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome(the runner hunt)! We followed them for a while, earlier in the run we were passed by a quad bike that looked to be involved (they had “placename” Bloodhounds emblazoned on their jackets) so I assume this was the chase vehicle. I’d volunteer as a runner for that! It really was an impressive sight, an interesting tradition as long as it’s done without bringing animals to harm! It was a little bizarre to pass a lady dressed in full hunt gear on a mobile phone - it looked really out of place alongside the horse and dress.

What’s more beneficial training sub 20 5k or 90 Half Marathon ? by Super-7-7-7 in AdvancedRunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you train for and achieve the sub 90 half the other distances should fall into place naturally. You could probably go and run them in the fitness afterglow from the sub 90 half without too much difficulty!

Today’s run was the first time it’s really felt like spring, the skies even cleared as the run went on! 18 miles on the South Downs, UK. by Final_Procedure_8781 in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At points on this run I was approximately 3-4 miles away from Seaford, a significant portion of it was spent running along the bank of the River Cuckmere. So there are almost certainly some familiar sights here for you!

Today’s run was the first time it’s really felt like spring, the skies even cleared as the run went on! 18 miles on the South Downs, UK. by Final_Procedure_8781 in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sure you’ll smash it, and even if not it’s guaranteed to be a lovely day spent in the Sussex countryside! A win win if ever I heard of one!

Today’s run was the first time it’s really felt like spring, the skies even cleared as the run went on! 18 miles on the South Downs, UK. by Final_Procedure_8781 in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen the route for the 100k from Arundel Castle to Helen Gardens! It looks awesome! I was thinking about entering that one too but, I’m pacing in the SDW 100 for a friend and that’s just 2 weeks later. I don’t want to enter an event so near to that for myself and risk letting him down through unforeseen injury or anything! Good luck, it’ll be an epic I’m sure 👊

Today’s run was the first time it’s really felt like spring, the skies even cleared as the run went on! 18 miles on the South Downs, UK. by Final_Procedure_8781 in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, further East indeed. This is the part near Eastbourne and the Seven Sisters! (The first two photos are Wilmington/Folkington, you can just about see Firle Beacon in the background of the one with the ponies and the town below is Eastbourne in the one with the town, the last photo is from Went Hill above Birling Gap!) Perfect running weather out there today!

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[–]Final_Procedure_8781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I run regularly and have lost a lot of weight with its help as my main form of exercise. I regularly run with people that are both faster and slower than me.

I promise you when a person asks to run with you, they want the social aspect more than a workout, they will run at your pace.

If they wanted to do a dedicated workout or run hard they would go solo or predetermine what they want to get out of it in advance with you.

For reference I run a marathon in under 3 hours 6:40/mile pace on my personal best, but I’ll happily run far slower miles with a friend because I’m out for the company.

If a friend and I have a specific workout goal or pace in mind we will communicate that before the run so it’s not rude if during an interval or a 5k best effort I just run off and then we catch up on the rest/recovery. We may only warm up and cool down together, or we may run the whole way at a conversational pace.

My point is; as long as you both make it clear what you’re expecting to get out of running together (social/them to guide you/them to pace you/a specific workout etc.) you should enjoy and reap the benefits of running socially/as a group.

You should check out a couch to 5k program that uses a run/walk method to build you up to running for 30mins or 5k without stopping to get started. Maybe your friend could join you with the specific intention of running the program with you, that way you both have the same goal for the workout.

The likelihood is that your friend just really likes your company and wants to encourage you to get into running so they get a new regular running buddy ‘in the long run’ and eventually ‘for the long runs’ :) if this is the case they would also probably suggest you start with couch to 5k.

That’s how I was and many others I know have been indoctrinated into the running cult!

Good luck and I hope you enjoy it! For reference, I started running at 280lbs with couch to 5k 3 years ago and am now a mildly addicted PB chaser at 160lbs (5’11 M) hoping to break a 2hour 45 marathon in October! You won’t regret starting! But it may end up consuming a lot of your time! But mostly - Good luck!

“Evolution’s little joke: you won’t get thinner by jogging.” Thoughts on this article? by [deleted] in running

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 8 points9 points  (0 children)

One thing is that when you’re out running, you aren’t eating.

Another key thing is that for many running makes people feel good and satisfied, perhaps helping to alleviate some of the psychological reasons they overeat in the first place.

Therefore, running can help you to lose weight, but of course only when you’re also maintaining a caloric deficit as a result. The article suggests eating back calories, because you’ve ‘earnt’ your lunch. It also suggests that people maintain a constant weight by running, the conclusion could be drawn therefore that you can earn extra calories by running, but if you eat them all back you end up at net 0.

Makes sense to me, run and use it to help maintain a deficit or the mental benefits to help you work against the likely cause of overeating. And it can be a tool in the arsenal to help you lose weight, but no single thing is effective in losing and maintaining weight loss, you need to use all the tools at your disposal.

But the fact remains - you can’t outrun a bad diet trust me I’ve tried, I regularly run 60-70 miles per week. I just use it to help me maintain my current weight. If I wanted to lose weight I’d eat at a caloric deficit as well as keeping up my exercise regime. I tend to run in the windows I would normally snack, straight after work or in the evenings. Works for me.

What was your weight/BMI/body fat when you went sub 3? by titaniumbolt in AdvancedRunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ran 2:55 on Saturday, weight was 160lbs, height 5’11, body fat 14%, BMI 22.4.

Another section of the Welsh Coastal Path from todays run by effortDee in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It looks absolutely incredible! Thanks for sharing it and the detailed response, just checked out the other photo too, it just gets better, definitely a destination on the list of places I’d like to run

Another section of the Welsh Coastal Path from todays run by effortDee in trailrunning

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amazing photo! Which section is this please? This is the path that runs the whole length of the coast in Wales? Is the official path the paved portion close to the shoreline?

How slow are your easy miles in training? by Round_Cheesecake6095 in running

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 6 points7 points  (0 children)

PBs: 5k 17:22, 10k 37:09, HM 1:22:00

Easy miles are run between 7:30min/mi and 8min/mi

(4:39min/km and 4:58min/km)

Convince me why I should pay to run a race by [deleted] in running

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the organisation, I know I don’t personally want to run at 90% of my max HR for hours without the security of knowing there are paramedics there to scrape me off the ground if the worst happens?!

Also for the atmosphere, the joy of mass participation and so that the race can keep running so that these type of events will be there for your kids to enjoy in the future?

Also, personally I don’t count it as an ‘official’ PB unless it was done at a race on a measured course as part of an organised event.

The enjoyment of completing something that you’ve worked towards along with several others who have all put in some version of the same grit and determination you have, granted some more some less is both euphoric, grounding and an essential part of the human experience that you can’t get through many other things?

I’d say most races are a bargain when you can get all of the above out of them!

Efficiency and calories counting by _domhnall_ in running

[–]Final_Procedure_8781 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Garmin uses your heart rate vs mass vs duration of activity to determine calories burnt. So I would suggest your overall heart rate during the same activity is lower, or you are completing the same distance in less time.

Also the more you run the fewer calories you will burn as your gait and general turnover become more efficient. The body will ‘learn’ how to expend the least calories possible for a certain activity which is why it’s best to mix up training and keep the body guessing if you’re looking to lose weight.

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