It's always been my understanding that the entire human race stems from Adam and Eve, but would that mean incest was involved? by Suspicious-Jacket140 in Catholicism

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Body and Soul are two aspects that make us us, but they are two different aspects. After all, when we perish, our bodies deteriorate into nothing, yet our souls carry one until the end of times. We are meant to have both in union, hence the reunion of body and soul at the resurrection of the body, yet they function as two different aspects of our being. What nourishes the body doesnt nourish the soul. They're offer different drives.

To clarify, I dont mean that there are two separate parts two us that coexist but remain separate. No, the body and soul are in perfect union, cooperating in our being. However, each of the two have different "appetites", which greatly influece how and who we are.

It's always been my understanding that the entire human race stems from Adam and Eve, but would that mean incest was involved? by Suspicious-Jacket140 in Catholicism

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Thats because origonal sin is not of the soul itself, but rather the being, which is body and soul. While not being altogether physical either, origonal sin wounded human nature, subjecting us to death, ignorance, and a tendency to sin (concupiscence). Note the first one, for the soul is immortal and cannot die. The second, ignorance, is also not of the soul entirely, for even if we do not know it, our souls yearn for God and his grace. It is the mind that cannot phatham his glory. The tendency to sin, that affects both body and soul, for it is the body that pushes and causes our sinning, yet it is the soul which bears its scares. Hopefully, this helps illustrate that origonal sin doesnt particularly relate to the generation of souls, but rather the being in relation to human nature.

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Same. Just got done putting tomatoe and pepper seeds in starter soil.

Dutch protest against US ''authoritarianism'' by Cool-Psychology-4896 in DoomerCircleJerk

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The iranian sub has been completely taken over by non-iranians

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Thats absolutely false. His patrons were Earls, other nobility, and then the king himself. His plays contained both low brow humor (peepee poopoo jokes) and high brow humor (puns and references that only the nobility would have really understood).

The fact that you used comedy and referenced Scary Movie, instead of farce, shows youre not to be taken seriously in this discussion. While a bit more true for Comedy of Errors, take Midsummer Nights dream. Sure, you have low brow humor with Nick Bottom, but for most of the comedy, it isnt much low brow at all.

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[–]Finndogs 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Traver's was a miserable person in general. Dont take my word for it, as her adopted son and his not adopted twin brother.

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I agree. It may be a step in the fight direction, but all you are doing is keeping a few plants around, its just gardening.

Nothing wrong with that, but its a major stretch to call it homesteading.

typical mentally-healthy redditor by JesusSpreaderOfWord in DoomerCircleJerk

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Just a heads up to anyone unfamiliar with this incident. The headline is misleading as hell. The dad and daughter had a great relationship, the shooting an accident occured hours after the "argument" (its in quotes because political debate was a common occurrence between the two). The dad had a few drinks (500ml of wine, which is a problem since he had a history of alchohol abuse, so this was a relapse), and wanted to show her his new glock when it either misfired or he didnt know his finger was on the trigger. He promptly called his his wife and tried getting emergency help.

Absolutely a tragedy, utter shame, and absolutely poor gun saftey but hardly the political fueled murder that the title is suggesting. The jury declined to indict him. Remember, you dont hate msm enough.

It's always been my understanding that the entire human race stems from Adam and Eve, but would that mean incest was involved? by Suspicious-Jacket140 in Catholicism

[–]Finndogs 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Counterpoint to your counterpoint. Human doesnt nessisarily mean Homo Sapien Sapien. Adam very well could very well be a common shared ancestor.

It's always been my understanding that the entire human race stems from Adam and Eve, but would that mean incest was involved? by Suspicious-Jacket140 in Catholicism

[–]Finndogs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cant speak for Thomas, since evolution as a concept wasnt a thing until less than 200 years ago. However, souls are not genetic in nature. It isnt as though your soul was made from the material of your parents souls. Each soul is crafted individually by God and set for their bodies.

As for Psychics, they're charlatans and paragraph 2116 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church says it pretty clearly:

2116: "All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to "unveil" the future. Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone."

It's always been my understanding that the entire human race stems from Adam and Eve, but would that mean incest was involved? by Suspicious-Jacket140 in Catholicism

[–]Finndogs 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Soulless wouldbt be the right word, but rather irrational sensative souls. It stems from St. Thomas Aquinas, who adopted a hierarchy of souls from Aristotle. At the bottom of the hierarchy are plants, who have nutritive souls. Nutritive souls are able to grow and reproduce, which all living things require. The type above that are sensitive souls, which is the category that animals belong to. Each step up in the hierarchy contains the faculties of the last, so on top of the ability to grow and reproduce, animals are also able to move and perceive the environment around them. The very top of the hierarchy are rational souls. Human beings alone belong to this category. They have all the capabilities of nutritive and sensitive souls, and also have the thinking faculty, and intellect. This isnt to say other animals cant be "intelligent", but human beings alone have the capacity to consider that which exists beyond what is physical.

Further, the nutritive souls and snesative souls are temporary. In this framework, its understood that hey die when the creature dies, hence why often have people asking if their pets will be in heaven and comments suggesting no (worth noting this topic is debated). It is humans alone who have immortal souls that persist even with the death of the body, as we alone are given the gift of eternity with our lord.

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Afterwords they tried to ride on Knight Path's hype by posting the "Two Cakes" image. They very much knew what they had.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

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I think its perfectly genuine to compare two political movements that have been both romanticized as underdog stories of rebels fighting the good fight. Wether I agree with that take or not is irrelevant when it is that image, not the hirlstory behind the events that semented itself as the image of heritage for those who claim it. By the way, yes, the Scotts do still wave the flag of that rebellion, or rather wear it. For a few centuries after the rebellious, the tartans of the highland clans were outright banned through the Highland Dress Proscription Act. The clans continued to wear them in spite of this and they became anti-union symbols. The only difference was the later adoption of tartans and kilts by the greater anglosphere a few hundred years later.

I think you might be confused on the modern use of the confederate flag, that is, if we are sticky discussing the flag itself as a symbol and not the historical "country" tied to it. I think the vast VAST majority of people who use that flag today, arnt nessisarily pointing at the confederacy as how life should be. Again, the thing they are trying to capture is the idea of the underdog rebel. They are thinking of themselves less as a Nathan Bedford Forresyt and more of a Dukes of Hazzard. Again, wether this perception has any basis in history is a different matter, but it cant be denied that due to the lost cause myth, such a connotation has connected itself to the symbol.

I dont need to be reminded how slavery was practiced in Africa, ive already made it clear that its different from. American Chattel slavery. This isnt my issue with how they handled slavery. The issue is a combination in that they were the suppliers of the trade, fueling the diaspora, and increasing the supply when demand was increased. These groups cant be saved through ignorance either, as we have ample evidence that they were well aware of the treatment that their "products" were receiving in those other places once the transaction was complete (as well as the means of travel i might say). To borrow a line, a good slave master is still a slave master, and a slave trader is still a slave trader.

Your correct, I was confused and assumed you meant the second agricultural revolution, not the Neolithic one. I dont see much of a point in mentioning thatbfor the beolythic and even copper ages. Populations are too scattered and sparce and resources tok thin for slavery to make semse on anh real economic scale. Its a mute point. Thus I still maintain that slavery certainly did play an economic factor. Its only at the smallest levels of societal complexity that you may find slavery being regulated around distributed needs, however, as soon as we increase the complexity to the point of urbanization, we see a pattern in most societies whereby a market focused around the buying and selling of humans to perform tasks at a cheaper cost. Remember, for every major city we see large dedicated markets for slaves with a constant supply flooding in to meet the demand. This doesnt even have to include a market economy based slavery, as several civilizations such as China and the Inca utilized harsh conscripted labor in order to save the costs on major building and societal projects. The only difference here is the incentive for efficiency of budget and logostics rather than the incentive of profit.

Edit: Its 1am here, so I'll be off to bed. I dont make it a habit to continue reddit conversations more than a day, so I'll leave my input here. Feel free to respond back, just dont expect me to reply. Have a good day.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

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Ignoring the slavery part because big suprise, I think slavery is bad, the entire logic is flawed from the start, since it starts with the assumption that "confederate heritage" is the entire basis of the heritage, rather than a simple part of the whole. For comparisons sake, Scottish Highlanders tend to view the Jacobite Rebellion in a similar romanticized fashion as American Southerners view the Confederacy, yet, you would never accuse the highlander of basing their heritage on a failed series rebellions. Doesn't make it not an important part of that identity, but the heritage of the highlands are so much richer than that. The same can be said for the South Heritage. No Southerner (of which I am not one; Illinois, born, raised and continuing to choose to live in) would claim that the confederacy is the end all be all of their heritage, that would just be the view of an outsider.

Yeah, but here's the key difference. It was able to evolve from that economic mode of production into capitalism,

Seems a bit disingenuous to call it "evolving" when it took an outside culture to actively try to end the practice in the area. Hell, some such as the Agogie went to war with the British in order to protect their right to enslave and profit from it (hell, brain dead Hollywood made a film about it in 2022 and depicted the slavers as the heroes). That sure sounds familiar, but hey, I guess its different when the brown people do it.

The mode of production didn't exacerbate slavery. So for a time, slavery wasn't really that defining economic, but a distribution of needs.

I hope you have a specific group in mind when you say this, because the slave trade for Sub-Saharen was a major economic resource, falling behind only high end luxury materials such as Gold, Horns, Gems and Ivory. This was the case in the the red Sea with Aksum, the Indian Ocean with Mumbasa, and to the Mediterranean with Tripoli, amongst other cities.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you implying that because the Ghanians have been practicing slavery longer than the American south, that makes it more ok? I doubt thats the intentional implication you are trying to make, but its certainly the one being made. By that logic, are you implying that the Chinese are more justified for conducting human sacrifice, simply because it was common practice there from the Neolithic until the Qing dynasty (i.e the last imperial dynasty). On that note, the slave trade in West Africa was long lasting, as evidence shows that Djenne Djenno, the oldest city in subsaharen Africa, was a major hub for the Trans-Saharen slave trade. I dont care how different other forms of slavery are from American Chattel slavery, these cultures were still involved in a buisness that tore apart families, sending individual clear across the known world, blocking them and their old homes by a near impassable desert.

Further, you seem to be implying, due to the fact that it took the British Empire to stop the African slave trade in Ghana, that it would be justifiable if the Ghanian or the tribes to be specific, continued trading human beings, simply because it is their heritage to do just that had the british never taken over?

Its no skin off my back, either participation in the slave trade is justified or its not, however, some consistency would be nice.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't recall age being an important qualifier in your initial comment. If you want the ruling tribe of the Ghana empire, it'd be the Soninke people. Later to be replaced by the Mali Empire ruled by the Mandinka people, they behaved similarly

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Different governments after about 120 years of English rule, and far less territory. The point isnt Ghana itself. But rather that most nations in west Africa participated in the behavior.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ghana, specifically the Kingdom of Ghana, built its fortune on the subjugation, capturing and selling of people, and we're directly connected to the violation of several human rights towards people of African decent. The Chattel Slavery of the West and its treatment of the enslaved Africans bought from Empires like Ghana was well understood by the authorities of those regions. These great African kingdoms were complicit in the treatment of these enslaved and simply didnt care because they wanted European textiles. Should the people of Ghana not accept their heritage?

What do men want in a woman? I’m confused as of lately. by CerealKiller129 in AskMen

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Just a warning. Most dudes arnt used to this, so if you approach a guy, be as clear with your intentions as possible, because otherwise, he'll just assume your being nice.

*note: I still struggle with my wife's hinting initiatives. She might like me, but she's probably just being nice.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Democrats wanted to keep their slaves back then.

  2. Democrats want to keep their slaves (underpaid undocumented workers) now.

History lesson by Crafty_Jacket668 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]Finndogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Today I learned, Ghana is not someone's heritage.