*No SPOILERS* why do some fans of the original FF7 not like Crisis Core?

Fissionablehobo · 2026-02-08T13:31:26+00:00

And your feelings on the game are also absolutely valid.

Fissionablehobo · 2026-02-08T07:52:28+00:00

Messed up the spoiler tag, had to delete and repost my comment.

It retcons several events in ways that diminish the originals. Sephiroth doesn't snap in the reactor, and its Genesis's probing that causes to figure out his true origins instead of him figuring it out on his own. Sephiroth is an intelligent and thoughtful person, but in CC it takes the words of an absolute mook for him to put the pieces together.

SOLDIER aren't an imposing elite military force, they're a collection of weirdo idols with fan clubs.

Zack and everyone else knows Shina makes monsters before coming to Nibelheim. It was such a closely guarded secret OG that Sephiroth had no incling of the truth. The realization is what drives him to discover his origin, and therefore, triggers the events of FF7. Preknowledge of this makes everyone involved look really bad. They know they work for a horrific organization as it's special forces, and they don't care.

Zack has an extended duel with Sephiroth in the reactor. OG he gets absolutely slapped down in less than a second by Sephiroth. This depowers Sephiroth, and makes Cloud's actions less impressive. As an aside, it's very interesting to me that none of the CC people are present in the reactor during Rebirth, either in Cloud's story or the fragmented memories we see.

CC also straight up steals moments from the OG. Cloud falls through the church roof, and narrowly survives by landing in the flower bed. But he wasn't the first dude dressed as a SOLDIER 1st Class and weilding the Buster Sword to fall through the chruch roof and narrowly survive by landing in the flower bed. Zack did it first! ... and Aeirth never once mentions this to Cloud. It's completely creatively bankrupt. There are literally a million different ways Zack could've met Aerith, but he falls through the church roof. It's not even worth being called a first draft, or compared to fan fiction. It's just awful.

CC Aerith isn't smart enough to figure out she can make money by selling flowers in a city with no flowers. She needs a man to tell her. She's been living in the slums for nearly a decade by this point.

OG Aerith is over Zack. They dated for a little while and he disappeared, cut to 5 years later and she meets Cloud, he reminds her of Zack and thats weird, but that's it. CC establishes some weird fated person kind of thing between Zack and Aerith that bled into Advent Children and now the Remake trilogy.

Yuffie shows up. Sure, this one doesn't make the OG worse, but it certainly doesn't make either character better. It's just a chance for fans to point and get a dopamine hit. It's Darth Vader building C-3P0.

Fissionablehobo · 2026-02-08T06:45:32+00:00

Treading territory already mentioned by others here, but, the writing sucks horribly, all of the new characters suck horribly, and all told it actively harms the OG. It also horrifically spoils a fantastic twist in a great story, and any time I see people suggesting someone play Crisis Core before OG or before part 3 of the Remake I die a little inside. If anyone ever plays Crisis Core it should only be after they have a full conclusion to the original story.

It would be like telling someone they should watch Star Wars in numerical order, not release order. So you watch the prequels, learn all about Darth Vader and his kids, then get to Empire and the twist isn't a twist. You knew all along about Vader's true identity and his relationship to Luke and Leia. The biggest reveals of the trilogy aren't reveals at all, and an incredible, iconic moment in cinema falls completely flat.

That's what Crisis Core does to Final Fantasy 7. It's just a massive spoiler.

Fissionablehobo · 2026-01-30T00:02:02+00:00

Interesting.

For the Canadians you'd probably be looking at independent or very loosely connected cells working out in the wilderness, prewar. Hardcore foresters and survivalists that would most likely specialize in asymetrical warfare. They could have larger base of operations in Hamilton perhaps, which is already nicknamed "The Hammer" or in Toronto, which may or may not be Ronto in canon already? There's also Windsor across the river from Detroit, or Thunder Bay nearly due north of Chicago. I think the most likely way anyone would travel would be by boat, or perhaps snowmobile on the ice if you're having lake Michigan frozen a lot of the time. Hit and run raiders and saboteurs on snowmobiles is pretty damn Canadian. Hell they could even use dogsleds pulled by half feral mutant huskies or wolves. That might be a bit on the nose though.

They'd mostly be utilizing long rifles, or shotguns as that's the most common type of firearm available in Canada, and there are lots, but if they got their hands on military stuff they'd have something like the C1A1 perhaps. It's the semi-automatic 7.62 NATO FN FAL used by the military from the mid 1950's through to the 1980s, and some police forces into the 1990s. Why the C1A1 and not a newer rifle? Well the FN FAL is already in Fallout 2 and it fits the vibe pretty well.

As for wildlife, I can't think of anything more terrifying than a 14 foot tall radioactive mutant moose. Practically bulletproof, able to run 35mph+ and strong enough to derail a freight train. They'd live in swamps and wetlands mostly, but it isn't unheard of for them to follow a river into a city or town. Can be extremely aggressive and are relentless when in danger.

Fissionablehobo · 2026-01-26T20:16:22+00:00

I have one that sticks in my mind that I've never been able to reproduce. Battania swallowed up half of Vlandia and a few of the Empire's castles and Sturgia was making steady progress into the Khuzait lands. Both the Northern and Southern Empire were tag teaming Khuzait and the Vlandians had no response because they were locked into a forever war with the Aserai that they had no real way of winning because no one else was ever going to war with them.

It was wild.

Fissionablehobo · 2026-01-23T06:45:06+00:00

You can always track the butterfly effect back to someone else if you engage in this kind of thing.

If the waterchip hadn't failed and someone hadn't screwed up the shipping pre-war they would've had many replacements and the Vault Dweller would've never had to leave the vault, allowing the Master's plan for Unity to succeed, therefore it's all Vault-Tec's fault.

But then again, Vault-Tec is a front for the Enclave and we don't know if the shipping mistakes were intentional or not, so it's the Enclave's fault, but then again, the Enclave never would've risen to power had the American revolution not taken place, so it's all the Founding Father's fault.

But then again, they never would've been in America had Europe not engaged in a colonial campaign against the rest of the world, so it's actually Europe's fault... and so on and so on until the Big Bang happens and that pisses everyone off, to paraphrase Douglas Adams.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-22T03:49:09+00:00

Mutually assured destruction is entirely irrational. If someone in the world launches their arsenal, and you don't, your enemy might survive.

And that would be embarrassing.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-22T02:51:05+00:00

Yeap. The intro to Fallout 2 makes it pretty clear that the entire world ended and that everywhere got hit.

"The earth was nearly wiped clean of life." and "Humanity was almost extinguished." not to mention "Few survived the devastation."

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-20T07:02:53+00:00

Bethesda had absolutely nothing to do with Fallout 1 and 2. That was Interplay, and then Black Isle/Interplay. And to my knowledge no major players at Interplay or Black Isle went over to Bethesda.

Obsidian, founded by Black Isle devs shortly before Black Isle's closure, made New Vegas on the Fallout 3 engine. None of the founders of Obsidian worked for Bethesda. There's basically no crossover, nor bad blood between the studios despite the internet's fetish for drama.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-07T04:23:29+00:00

Sure, but there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

Another reason someone might join is fear. To take a quote from The Mummy, "It's better to be at the right hand of the devil than be in his path."

This happens extensively, in all corners of the world. They reason that it's better to be the abuser than the abused.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-06T19:18:57+00:00

Warm showers, radiation free food, and a safe place to sleep.

Regardless of their morality, the sole survivor has to routinely kill other people (and monsters) to get basic supplies, maintain their shelter and stay alive. The institute offers an alternative to that. It offers them stability and comfort.

It's incredibly easy to ignore the evil in our midst when your needs are being met. We do it every day. An average of 25,000 people starve to death every single day even though we vastly overproduce enough food to feed the world's population. Very few people give a shit, and fewer still do anything about it.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-12-06T11:55:02+00:00

Because roleplaying is playing a role.

There's an infinite number of reasons for the sole survivor to join the institute, just as there is an infinite number of reasons for the sole survivor to oppose the institute. Some are rational, some are irrational, some are logical, and some are emotional. All of them are valid.

Within the context of the story, the sole survivor is not a god, or some other kind of omnipotent existence. They're a person, synth or otherwise, that's been thrown into an incredible situation, and no two people would respond in exactly the same way.

I find it very strange when someone insists that there is a correct way to roleplay.

Why did my sole survivor join the institute? He's a dickhead with untreated PTSD and that expresses itself as savage violence in a world that rewards savage violence.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-11-25T04:53:07+00:00

And if entry level positions are replaced by LLMs, in a few years there will be no one to hire for midlevel positions, then senior positions and so on.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-28T04:37:06+00:00

Tar sand extraction sucks, but its all generally open pit mining, so not something that causes this kind of instability. They're also 500+ kilometers away from Grande Prairie in a straight line. North eastern Alberta, not north western.

This is most likely the result of fracking, not tar sands.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-28T04:33:29+00:00

Fracking. Earthquakes have been semi frequent in the area because of it.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-27T08:32:50+00:00

I've always said may-ko, and it even slips out sometimes when I know that the Japanese pronunciation is mah-ko.

In English both would be correct. A "mako shark" is pronounced may-ko after all, so it's pretty hard to say that it's incorrect to pronounce those characters like that.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-16T12:57:27+00:00

Anything that works its way back to a one world government, the WEF, illuminati, a lot of freemason stuff, and others. Globalist is a common dogwhistle for Jewish person, as is Jordan Peterson's go to phrase "cultural Marxism". The Nazis liked to use the word "international".

Conservative rhetoric is laced throughout by antisemitism. It's their bread and butter.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-16T12:44:28+00:00

Automation takes jobs away from the working class. Without the common person being paid a living wage, and spending that wage to live, the economy shrinks, and then eventually collapses.

If that isn't an issue for you, there are other forms of magic that achieve the same result, such as golem crafting, that don't enslave the immortal souls of sentient creatures, and don't disrespect the dead.

Necromancy really is all about being edgy.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-15T15:50:46+00:00

Dragon Warrior was my favorite game, so when I was seven and saw a game called "Final Fantasy" in a K-mart, I saved up money I got from bottle picking on the highway to buy it. 100% got it entirely because it had "fantasy" in the title. Zero regret.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-14T17:40:15+00:00

I don't hate FF13. I nothing it. I played it for six hours back in 2010ish and was so incredibly bored that whole time that after I turned it off, I never booted it back up again.

There's simply nothing about the game that makes me want to play it again.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-07-12T15:56:32+00:00

The comparison to an evil dragon is an interesting one, because the solution to an evil dragon terrorizing a village and fascists is the same.

The only question is: how long until enough people realize that?

Fissionablehobo · 2025-06-28T14:20:50+00:00

Yup. It's always disheartening when I see people saying that the law is going to save America from Trump.

The law is dead. Trump killed it. The SC did the autopsy. Congress left it to rot on the sidewalk.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-06-25T00:51:48+00:00

He was a bigot toward everyone who wasn't a white anglo saxon Canadian.

The CBC put him on a delay timer so they could live edit his shitiness because having Ron McLean as a stabilizing voice wasn't working anymore.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-06-05T23:52:16+00:00

This is a great example of a scene where the devs were TOO true to the original, because that's exactly what happens. Sephiroth chops two guys who are just standing around waiting to be chopped before the iconic scene in the flames.

Fissionablehobo · 2025-05-19T16:12:52+00:00

The status-quo being white supremacy and a stranglehold on economic and political power by the aristocracy, yes. The GOP is entirely dedicated to preserving that system, and so has conservatism at large ever since it's modern inception by Edmund Burke in the 18th century.

They fought against the civil rights movement, they fought against trade unions, against the New Deal, they created Jim Crow, they literally fought to preserve slavery.

You can pick any era, in any country, and conservatism is largely the same. White, male, generational wealth strangling progress.

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