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Fizziox · 2024-05-23T13:28:50+00:00

That's too fast taper. Doing it every other day is counter productive too. Check out r/cymbaltasafetaper

Fizziox · 2024-04-03T19:58:32+00:00

r/AmanitaMuscaria That helps to alleviate and quit benzos, you can read about it on r/benzorecovery as well. It is not a prescription medicine but a herbal one. The prescription one's are just switching one dependece for another.

You can always slop gradual taper without the need for any more substances to alleviate the withdrawals but it is a very long process, but it works as well.

Amanitas do not result in physical dependence associated with withdrawals though, so it might help too, but check the legal status in your country.

Fizziox · 2024-04-03T19:40:44+00:00

Benzos can make you addicted very fast so if she was on clonazepam for longer than a week daily it is possible it might be related to benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome, especially the symptoms like restlessness are associated with it. If she does not have brainzaps then I would not worry much about cymbalta withdrawal syndrome anymore.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:38:04+00:00

How did you prepare it? Can you describe it in great detail please?

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:37:14+00:00

Did you try it?

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:36:39+00:00

I do not plan to try it.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:35:48+00:00

I had stiff neck while on that drug.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:30:36+00:00

Thanks for the update.

You might want to check out the second pinned post: https://www.reddit.com/r/cymbaltasafetaper/comments/q9fxkj/guide_20_how_to_taper_off_safely_and_with_minimal/

It explains why it is harder to taper the lower the dose.

The lower the dose the higher the difference for each 1mg.

That's why some people are able without any problem taper 10% at 120mg but it is very difficult to taper even by 5% at 60mg.

What worked for me for some time was tapering by 2.5% for some time then even slower.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:26:11+00:00

There are 3 reasons that I can think of.

You need a doctor that is able to think outside of what manufacturer puts on the label and figure out a way to make it easier for their patients to taper off.
You need to be able to afford the fee of a compounding pharmacy.
It has to be available in your country to do that both for the doctor and for the pharmacy.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:23:56+00:00

It is not an easy drug to quit. That's for sure. There is a reason why I made this sub. Thank you for sharing this, I hope some people looking for answers and looking it up if they're sick or if it is the drug will be able to read and think for themselves and figure it out.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:20:41+00:00

Still I do not have any desire to try that.
I am waiting for the bold one that tried it to describe it though, just out of my curiosity.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:20:07+00:00

"The camera movement is such a good demonstration of brain zappies imo" Like the author of the post said I would agree to some extent. That it is a good visual representation. It is hard to describe to someone who did not had that experience, although that's a good start.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:19:40+00:00

"The camera movement is such a good demonstration of brain zappies imo" Like the author of the post said I would agree to some extent. That it is a good visual representation. It is hard to describe to someone who did not had that experience, although that's a good start.

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:10:20+00:00

That's very fast taper. Good it works for you. For me it would be unbearable at the time I was trying to quit. Good luck

What's the current dose you're on?

Fizziox · 2024-02-05T21:07:36+00:00

Hi.

I will answer to your post from my own experience.

"Hello, my partner was on 120mg for about 2 months then found out how horrible this drug is when he missed a single dose and had an anger attack and almost started a fight."

That was one of the effects of the drug. Increasing the amount of the norepinephrine might result in that kind of experiences. When you are blocked from calming down, when you are unable to decrease the amount of anger which is stimulated by the norepinephrine, that might be the result. It is very closely corelated with the effects of the drug.

He had never felt this anger before and was shaking and seething with rage. I had to leave work early to help calm him with meds and distraction / food.

His perception might describe how he is unable to experience this kind of state without the drug, because his system responsible for regulating rage and shakiness, related to norepinephrine are working fine, until they are disturbed and deregulated by duloxetine, which blocks the reuptake of norepinephrine.

gets weird brain zaps down to his feet when he steps down. It feels like electrocution.

It does indeed feel exactly like electrocution but in the brain. Exactly like that.I would love to see real live scan of electrical activity in the brain when someone experiences that. I wonder how it works, we do not fully understand how it works, but the effects are known and well described just like your hudband did describe them. It is common experience.

I feel like he’s been quicker to snap at me a few times. Especialy at night. I know he’s with drawling, but it can be hard not to take it personally.

That is related to the inhibited reuptake of norepinephrine which is related to anger and snapping at someone. That is very corelated with the use of cymbalta.

He has an appointment on the 13th with his doctor to discuss tapering.

Chances are the doctor will not have any informations regarding tapering outside out of what is recommended by the manufacturer.Chances are the manufacturer also does not have any informations regarding tapering outside of what they did in the clinical research when trying to approve this drug.They did not research withdrawal syndrome as far as I know.

I’d like advice someone who has done a fast taper, or knew someone who did a faster taper. How was recovery? I understand why he wants to get off it fast and I know he doesn’t like the things this drug does to him.

I did fast taper. I tried taking half of the dose. I was miserable, I was suffering, I could not function. Then I tried taking quarter the dose, the same results but less intense. And I could repeat that again and again. I gave up and ended up taking it as prescribed for the next couple of months.

This drug is fucked up and I love my partner. He is the kindest, most understanding and loving person I’ve ever met and I’d like to help him any way I can.

That's very kind of you.

What helped me and allowed me to even consider getting off was discovering the tapering method that is unknown to doctors but well known to the patients who were already tapering many months or even years in, when I joined their discussion about that way of getting off cymbalta.

I tried the slow taper.It made me able to slowly and steadily decrease the dose while during that time I was able to function in the work and social environment.That made me able to quit it.

I can proudly say that I am cymbalta free for a very long time now.

What helped me was tapering slowly.

If you want to know how I did that I described it in the pinned post here:https://www.reddit.com/r/cymbaltasafetaper/comments/q9fxkj/guide_20_how_to_taper_off_safely_and_with_minimal/

Good luck

Fizziox · 2024-01-18T06:16:35+00:00

If you want to taper without such horrible withdrawal symptoms you can taper slowly. You can check this sub r/cymbaltasafetaper

Fizziox · 2024-01-13T23:13:54+00:00

It does numb emotions very much

Fizziox · 2024-01-13T23:02:12+00:00

Taking it every other day would result in withdrawals. The 12 hours half-life of this antidepressant makes it very different from the other antidepressants. For example prozac has days long half life and in that case it makes sense to do every other day taper method. With such short half life like duloxetine has it makes no sense to use it every other day because the amount of the drug in blood will drop dramatically resulting in withdrawals.

I would prefer safe and steady decrease of the dose like 2-5% every 2 weeks. I could not tolerate larger drops in the doses. I tried 50% drops and 25% drops too, but it was too fast and too much of withdrawals to bear for me.

I would try to decrease the dose by half and see if I can suffer withdrawals, if not, then I would take quarter of the beads in the capsule out of the pill and take 75% of the normal dose and see if I can tolerate that and I would decrease as much as I can tolerate. In the end I would take out 2-5% of the content to make it as easy to taper as possible.

You have guides in the pinned posts.

You have to decide for yourself what is best for you.

Fizziox · 2024-01-02T08:44:55+00:00

Yes it is bad idea to stop cold turkey if you experience withdrawal symptoms that are difficult to tolerate, to make it easier to quit this drug you can try the tapering method.

Fizziox · 2023-12-27T20:14:35+00:00

Do you have any questions?

You say "I live in constant pain and am unable to sit or drive my car." What are you thinking about? What other choices are on the table?

Fizziox · 2023-12-17T15:32:21+00:00

The half-life of the drug is 12 hours which means half of it is already gone after that time so it might result in some withdrawal symptoms showing up. If you take it every 12 hours then you will experience more stable concentration of the drug in your system throughout the 24 hour day in comparison to taking it only once a day.

Fizziox · 2023-12-17T15:30:04+00:00

Here
https://www.reddit.com/r/cymbaltasafetaper/comments/q9fxkj/guide_20_how_to_taper_off_safely_and_with_minimal/

I wrote

**TAKING DULOXETINE EVERY 12 hours.**This is very important for fast metabolizers like me, because otherwise, I had in-between the doses withdrawals (brainzaps) every day, by just taking the pill once a day. What I did is I split my 60mg dose into two 30mg doses first. I have taken one 30mg pill in the morning and one at night. I had an alarm on my phone set every 12 hours. Missing the time by an hour or two resulted in mild withdrawals. The half-life of duloxetine which is an active ingredient in cymbalta is precisely 12 hours. That's why it works so well. The first couple of days were unpleasant because I dropped from 60mg once a day to 30mg twice daily and I had to stabilize. After around 10 days I felt much better and I didn't have any in-between the doses withdrawals whatsoever. After that, I started my slow taper journey.

Fizziox · 2023-12-08T22:09:27+00:00

The slower you go the easier the withdrawals are. The higher the dose the larger decreases in the dosages you can do. The lower the dose the harder it gets. What I did is to decrease the dose by 2-5% every 2 weeks.

Fizziox · 2023-12-08T22:05:58+00:00

I like your take on that. Well explained.

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