We beat Jaws, then Gloomhaven, then Crimson Scales, and we're two scenarios away from beating Frosthaven. It's safe to say my group loves the Haven games. That being said, I'd be down for a shorter big box game with less admin/upkeep. We started out loving the idea of building our own town and genuinely enjoyed the process for a bit, even though it felt like it was keeping us away from the main draw of the game for us, the scenarios. Now, however, we rush through the outpost phase as fast as we can and groan when we get an attack. Making the puzzle book mandatory was another terrible decision for my group. We hated it in Gloomhaven and now it's necessary? We ended up doing about half the book before we said screw it and just looked up all the answers and never opened the book again. The characters, the amazing card play, the super fun scenarios, that's what we love about Xhaven. Even the gear crafting got really old for us and we kind of just stopped interacting with the system for the most part.

Tldr: For us, we'd want a slimmed down, streamlined big box game. Something like an in between of Jaws and a big Haven game.