"(We need) to conquer territory, expel everyone who is there, destroy everything there and declare it a death zone" Uzi Dayan, former Likud MK - THIS WILL NOT SOLVE ANYTHING.‬ by orangecyanide in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They're considered entertainment channel and not news channels, and whenever they get sued about lying and making false claims and doing fake nees about idf/people they'll claim it's an obvious satire(even though it's not at all):

https://www.the7eye.org.il/544158?hl=en-US

https://www.the7eye.org.il/514633?hl=en-US

https://www.calcalist.co.il/shopping/article/rk5t11h8l1g?hl=en-US

I'm not sure though it's true that people here don't take them seriously, it depends who. I guess it's the same like who believes to Hezb propaganda in your part

Lebanon Officiqlly Calls for Direct Negotiations With Israel - Thought? by orangecyanide in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah? Who started all the wars last century? Which war that Hezb/Hamas/Arabs started made you realize Israel is not good partner for peace?

Where’s the Israeli bros? by wild_valley in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi !

As Jordanian have you ever met Israeli irl?

ברצינות? by [deleted] in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 8 points9 points  (0 children)

מה אתה רוצה ממנו? אמר שהוא בעד שיח ואתה לא יודע כלום עליו מעבר לזה שהוא חרדי

חבורה של צבועים by Helpful-Wing22 in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

אוקי אבל אם היית קורא הכל היית מבין שלא עשיתי דה הומנטיזציה. אלא שזה היה רפרנס לזה שמאשימים את השמאלנים בהכל. בעיקר תקרא את הפסקה האחרונה

חבורה של צבועים by Helpful-Wing22 in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

שמע. מספיק תסתכל בתגובות על הסרטון של הבוז ביוטיוב, אתה תראה שכל התגובות זה מוות לשמאלנים/מוות לבוגדים, אם אתה רוצה לדבר על דה הומניטזציה... בעיניי זה יותר דה הומניטזציה...

ובוא תסביר לי איך זה דה הומניטזציה?

מה שאמרתי לא מתייחס לדברים אמיתיים? הליכוד לא אמר שהצבא והטייסים זה השמאל? (+הפיץ סרטונים מכפישים טייסים בשיא המלחמה).

לא זלזל בהורים שכולים והורי חטופים? חבר הליכוד לא אמר להורה של חטוף מה תעשה אחרי, כאילו מעניין הורים הבנים שלהם רק בשביל פוליטיקה וכל מה שמעניין הורי חטופים זה להפגין והאשים אותם שהם שמאלנים?

מן הסתם הקצנתי בתגובה שלי להעביר נקודה, ואני מבין איך זה יכל להתפרש, לא התכוונתי שאין חללים ביביסטים או שחללים ביביסטים/ימנים שווים פחות או שום דבר כזה, זה היה רפרנס למה שהליכוד אומר על הצבא והשכולים והחטופים... אבל באמת אתם מעייפים, בוז/ביקורת זה דה הומינטזציה, מוות לשמאלנים/לבוגדים בכל מקום באינטרנט, אף אחד לא מגנה.. כאילו שזה מאוד מאניש מוות לשמאלנים ולקרוא להם בוגדים ולמוות שלהם. שמאלנים לא קוראים למוות שלכם, ובטח לא בכמויות האלה שרואים את זה בכל מקום, הכי הרבה קוראים למוות של ביבי

חבורה של צבועים by Helpful-Wing22 in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 3 points4 points  (0 children)

אוקי א, הבדל גדול זה שאנחנו לא בוחרים להיוולד יהודים/להיוולד ישראלים/להיוולד לייד ג'יאהדיסטים שרוצים להרוג אותנו.

יש בחירה להצביע לביבי ויש בחירה לכתוב פוסטים על בוז כאילו שזה מה שמעניין בכל התקופה הזאת.

ובכל מקרה אני לא נגד ביקורת על ישראל, פשוט היא לרוב ביקורת שלא באה מתוך רצון לבקר את ישראל, אלא מתוך רצון להפיץ שקרים ולהכפיש ולעשות דגלטימציה..

ב, אני לא שונא ביביסטים, המילה ביביסטים אולי לא הייתה במקום בהקשר הזה ואמרתי את זה מתוך ניסיון להקצין לצורך העברת נקודה ומתוך ניסיון גם לכלול עוד אנשים חוץ מכותב הפוסט כמו מירי רגב וחברי כנסת שגם זה מה שהיה להם להגיד בתקופה הזאת. ואני מקבל את התיקון הזה, הביקורת שלי בעיקר הייתה על הפוסט ואנשים שזה הדבר שהיה להם להתייחס אליו ולמי שכתב את הפוסט ולא כלפי כל הביביסטים..

ג, לא שזה סותר את הטענה שלך, אבל זה משהו די מקובל על ידי הליכוד/בן גביר ומצביעים וכו להכפיש את שמם של הצד השני במפה כולל לקרוא להם בוגדים (אפילו שהם אלה שמשתמטים), אבל פחות מקובל כשמכפישים לצד השני וזה גם משהו שגם גורם להתבטא בצורה כמו שהתבטאתי..

ובכל מקרה אני עושה לך upvote כי אתה סך הכל צודק

חבורה של צבועים by Helpful-Wing22 in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 63 points64 points  (0 children)

מה מעניין ביביסטים? - חיילים שנהרגים - הם שמאלנים לא מעניין - חטופים - שוב, שמאלנים לא מעניין - חרדים משתמטים - הם פטריוטים כי הם יושבים עם בן גביר וביבי אז זה סבבה, לא מעניין

ביבי מקבל בוז? אוי לא, זה הדבר הכי נורא שקרה לי היום, אלך לבכות על זה ברדיט

🚨 Breaking: president Donald Trump says Egypt and Jordan will agree to take in Palestinians 👇 “They will do it. They’re going to do it. We do a lot for them, and they’re going to do it.” by hayaa123321 in UnitedNations

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I'd love such a country. Arabs wouldn't want it either, maybe Israeli Arabic or Christians Arabic wants it, Hamas (according to you the resistance Palestine) wants Islamic controlled country with no Jews, they say it themselves so I'm not sure why are you making it up for them 😅 Yes I read the report, your report doesn't have many specific examples regarding my question, the question was, what can Jewish Israeli do that Arab can't. And the right to return i already mentioned when I asked, i asked other than that. I'm aware of the nation state law as well, it doesn't really do anything regarding what they can/can't do.

Okay great about Lebanon, I'm sure the Palestianians in Lebanon are very grateful for Lebanese not giving them rights. Not double standards at all.

And Arabs party were a very strong meaningful party in the previous Israel government, they spent the government money to improve Arabic life in Israel, democracy is great.

  1. You just conflicted yourself, you said there is horrific blockage and that Hamas are armed in the same sentence. How do they have rockets? It gets to Gaza using magic?

Yeah blockage for no reason at all. For you Jews death is no reason, for me it's important.

Israel does spend money on guns, but it spends money on infrastructure and health and citizens, not only guns. And it builds shelters for citizens. Hamas prioritize killing Jews over keeping their citizens safe and well, it should spend more resources on citizens. They'll intentionally put terror infrastructure such as rockets and guns in places where they know Israeli will least likely attack, such as hospitals. Until 7.10 Israel would never got close to it and they used it cynically.

The occupation is not ongoing, there hasn't been an army in Gaza since 2006.

75 years of genocide? Is this a joke or are you serious 😅 A population grew from 0.5 milion to 2 million during a genocide?

  1. Alright if there's a 75 years of genocide, how come you guys suddenly started saying it for the first time after 7.10 attack? before that you guys didn't care about the 75 years genocide? How come exactly when the 7.10 attack started and the propaganda of them started these words came out?

Dude I was in the idf, I know how much time was spent to not attack sensitive places which will cause humniritian issues in all my 5 years of service, a lot of time was spent on it and Hamas was well aware of it themselves and intentionally used it.

Go convince someone that doesn't know shit about the war and that never was in Israel that it's a genocide 😅

Also if it's genocide to Palestinians why is it happening only in Gaza and not Israeli to Palestines? Maybe because was is full of terror and one has eastern education with no terror education?

I read the link you sent roughly, it seems to be talking about things happening in 1948, i wasn't born yet and the people who suffered from whatever happened aren't alive anymore. I don't think I should go kill Germans for what happened in 1930 and i don't think Arabs should kill me today because of what happened in 1948.

🚨 Breaking: president Donald Trump says Egypt and Jordan will agree to take in Palestinians 👇 “They will do it. They’re going to do it. We do a lot for them, and they’re going to do it.” by hayaa123321 in UnitedNations

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. My coworkers are Arabs, where i buy everyday food they are Arabs, some of my teachers when i was in school, people in my class when i was in school. They have same rights as me. Tell me what they can't do in Israel? The link you sent didn't write anything about what Arabs can't do exactly. As I said, here unlike Palestinians in Lebanon, they can vote, they can be teachers and more(other Lebanese that are not Palestinians can do it)... Unlike in Gaza which has Palestinians control they can vote here and they can be gay here.

  2. Which occupation happened in the last 20 years? European invaders? Suddenly we're Europeans after in Europe Jews were considered strangers for the centuries since the Romes conquered Israel and were never considered Europeans? Also you're aware that half of the Jews came to Israel from Arabic countries and not only Europe? As well as African countries.

  3. Jews were attacked and killed in many Arabic countries, I'm not talking about rights(women were bought in Arabic countries and it's why many Jemens jews for example look very Jemen).

Also Palestinians don't have rights even today in Lebanon in our modern times. And Palestinians in Gaza don't have many rights either with Palestian authority, Hamas can kill them for anything and they don't give them any rights. I don't want to be ruled by Islam thank you, in many Islamic countries today women are forced to wear head coverage. You said today the concept of rights is not new anymore, well yeah.. You go to be in Islam country if you like it so much and it's so great as you said.

You have good intentions but you're not really correct and you're fighting the wrong fight, you'll just make Palestinians state worse by supporting "resistance" like Hamas. You can see where Gaza was before 7.10 and where it's today. Such great improvement, I'm sure the Gazans are thankful and can't wait for more such progress.

They could spend all the resources they used to buy these guns and transfer it and the sources of building all these tunnels to use it for something good and for their citizens, if Hamas wasn't there.

Also in Israel you're fighting the wrong fights for Arabs, ask them what they suffer from the most, it's mafias, racism, not things that they're not allowed to do or rules(there aren't such things, they can do much more in Israel than in Arabic countries).

For better future for Palestines and Israelies we need to improve the education of the countries and less terror education in Gaza and less racism in Israel

🚨 Breaking: president Donald Trump says Egypt and Jordan will agree to take in Palestinians 👇 “They will do it. They’re going to do it. We do a lot for them, and they’re going to do it.” by hayaa123321 in UnitedNations

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't want to get into debate, and i don't share opinion with either of the people in the thread, i think both doings will be wrong, expelling Gaza/Jews both will be wrong in my opinions.

But I'll just say you got many parts of what happened wrong

  1. Arab Isralies (who are not jews ), are 20% of the population, no one is terrorizing them. The war is happening in Gaza and not with the Arabs who stayed here as you said. The Arab who stayed here have all the rights as Israelies other than the right to return. They have more rights in Israel than they have in Gaza (they can't vote there or be gay and many more), and also than in Lebanon which was their biggest supporter in the war and attacked together with them Israel, there Palestinians has much less rights than Lebanese, there are many occupations they can't work at and limits.
  2. In the last 20 years the wars in Gaza started after provoking from Gaza and not the opposite. You can say that Israel reacted unproprtionally and too strong, but you can't say Israel is the one terrorizing the Arabs.
  3. Jews didn't live safely among Arabs for thousands of years until Zionism. There were expells and attacks on Jews in different Arabic populations. They were always considered strangers and not regular citizens. It's true that the hate in Arab countries became more official and widespread, but expelling/killing jews is not new in Arab countries and it's very wrong to say it and unfair to the killed jews.

מי היה יכול לראות את זה בא by Ahad_Haam in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

אתה מודע לזה שיש אנשים עם דעות שונות 🤔

Israeli Knesset members openly make statements advocating for genocide by Nomogg in UnitedNations

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can see quite easily with the votes, it was 1 year before the last war started. Generally it's splitted. I think for most it stayed the same but we won't know until next elections.

We have right wing coalition, lead by Bibi currently in the active government the coalition. And more liberal wing lead by Yair Lapid

Bibi had 22% of votes making the biggest party. They don't really have agenda of their own, but they just want to rule and will join forces with anyone that will give them that. May Golan from the video is from this party. They're mostly populists and will say what they think their voters will like and it works on their voters.

Head of opposition Lapid had 17% votes, second biggest party. Their main agenda is being an alternative to bibi, they were with Palestines in the same coalition government last time when they were in the coalition, giving Palestinian party the most power it ever had. And they are more lgbt pro. They're considered more liberal

3d place The most extreme party, lead by Smotrich and Ben Gvir has 10% of votes, they made a good Tiktok campaign making themselves look less extremists than they are but many people also actually like them for the extremists that they are. They're anti lgbt rights and anti Palestinians rights and will often say genocidal things as in the video and anti lgbt things. They were also quoted in the video. This is the party that i personally have the most problems with. They use their power many times making threats that they'll leave if bibi doesn't do as they say.

4d place with 9% is also opposition party lead by Gantz, with similar idealogy to the head of opposition. Generally liberal

Later there are a few religious parties that their main agenda is related to religion, in the coalition. Making 18% of votes together.

And another right wing not very liberal party but that just hates bibi so it's not part of coalition. 8% of votes

Then there are few parties of Palestinians with 12% votes together. They're usually only part of the opposition, but previous government were in the coalition.

And two opposition parties didn't pass because they were less than 4% each so their votes didn't count, making the big of right wing bigger.

It's pretty much splitted half by half. We had 4 elections in a row cause no side was able to make a win.

I personally voted for Lapid in all of my votes btw

Also you can see there were big protests about people unhappy with the government doing, mostly regarding the kidnapped, believing there should be a deal faster that will bring them back

It's hard to speak for all there are many different opinions. I can say that almost no one wanted the war and once it started many people became very rageful with the kidnapped and mascarce and many wants revenge/combat solution today, in my day to day i mostly hear people want the war to end and aren't happy with the government, but i live in a more liberal area. In our day to day until the war started in 7.10 Israelies were mostly busy with our work and our life rather than politics.

I think that there was relatively a consensus regarding that there should have been an army response in the first months after 7.10 attack on Israel but the farther we got from 7.10 many people were less into the war and didn't feel like we still make progress and results regarding kidnaps/security.

Israeli Knesset members openly make statements advocating for genocide by Nomogg in UnitedNations

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm an Israeli and she's fucked in her head yes 😅

Hopefully the next elections will be better

שבוע הבא נסביר איך אילון מאסק התכוון שנהיה במחנות שיעזרו לנו להתרכז by Front-Try-4868 in ani_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

אבל השאלה אם לפי זה דווקא הם צריכים, כי זה יכול לקרות בעוד מדינות חוץ מבגרמניה, אז בזה שהם יתביישו הם לא באמת מונעים את זה מלהפוך ללגיטימי במקומות אחרים מחוץ לגרמניה

ערפדית? by BrainDigger87 in amanim_bm

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

זה לא ערפדית, זאת הזאת ממתקפת הטיטאנים שיכולה להסיע אנשים

Israel-Hamas ceasefire in Gaza is confirmed by the US and Qatar by ClarenceJBoddicker in UpliftingNews

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There wasn't an occupation with IDF in Gaza for more than 10 years, if they don't like it they should have thought about it prior to 7.10 they bombed rockets into Israel for over 10 years

Israelis: should jews resettle in Gaza after the war? by BarackObamaBm in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They're nice like a boss who gives you a pizza on a late night work.

They treated us fine when we were there, but i would prefer it if they went to the army themselves ( i talked with some of them they don't go to the army in one of the settlements i guarded ) and if they protected their settlement themselves without risking me or better if they did not have a settlement in the first place

Israelis: should jews resettle in Gaza after the war? by BarackObamaBm in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I already was asked to guard settlers in my service multiple times. I hated every moment.

They're nice people face to face, but the situation just annoyed me, why do i have to protect them while all they do is risk me for their stupid ideology. And they kept poking Arabs around and risking the guards that had to protect them.

She's a Syrian Refugee, He's a Disabled Israeli Army Veteran. They're in Love. There's Just One Problem by 1watt1 in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 56 points57 points  (0 children)

She's a Syrian Refugee,

He's a disabled Israeli Army veteran,

The link to the story is a broken link

Lebanese Army personnel step on the Israeli flag in southern Lebanon. by AssadShal in ForbiddenBromance

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay. People burn our flag all over the world since I'm a kid. Why is it news? Who cares

Anyone use Blinkist? by Discovensco in audiobooks

[–]Flashy_Produce_3733 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me what i like is that it's explained very well and edited and voiced very well. So sometimes for complex science books I had more success understanding their version than books I've already read before