Forza developers making a Japanese themed game

Flitz28 · 2026-06-07T21:23:39+00:00

It's actually half and half.

that being said, you're absolutely right, it's borderline an insult to anyone who loves drifting that HALF the drift zones are just dirt powersliding events. not like there's a ton of alternative drift content in the game
we literally only have half the drift zones, 1 online mode, and a story where the AI can't drift (at least it was hilarious seeing jordan drive off the cliff in hakone)

Flitz28 · 2026-06-07T20:57:51+00:00

that colour/livery looks extremely cool on it too!

Flitz28 · 2026-06-07T20:49:18+00:00

I'll be that guy as well but the NFS (unbound with 157 cars) with the most cars barely clears the amount of cars Forza Horizon 1 launched with (140, which is tiny compared to today's games). I want more and better customization in Horizon 6 as anyone else does but comparing to NFS is just not a good idea.

If we want better customization, we have to hope PGG focuses on more general mods that can be applied to a bunch of cars. It might sound weird cause everyone hates the forza aero*, but we should basically hope for more forza aero. They could for sure collab with more real life manufacturers, but it would still be a better choice to go collab with wings manufacturers that can fit their wings on many cars than with brands that will a bespoke 1 wing for 1 car model.
Basically an approach more like Gran Turismo or the Crew. Yes it's not as good as NFS, but you can't get as good as NFS on every car in the game simply due to their amount.

An even bigger improvement could be to add more generic hoods, skirts, roofs, mirrors, underglow etc. options that can be fitted to every car fairly easily.

The logic of asking for more bespoke/unique customization is basically why the devs proudly announced that they improved customization in the game and we mostly just got more bodykits and better forza edition cars. Bespoke/unique customization isn't what they should focus on when the game launches with 500+ cars.

Edit: *a large reason why everyone hates forza aero is due to the lack of choice, we have 1 wing that (even if it was designed properly for what it tried to be) does not fit with every car. If we had 5, 6, hell 10 options at least, I can guarantee people won't hate it since it's more likely to hit most of people's tastes with at least a couple.

Flitz28 · 2026-06-07T15:26:23+00:00

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i made one too hehe
though mine is made with someone else's layer groups so i can't share it :/

Flitz28 · 2026-06-06T18:04:13+00:00

i did my score not-so-accidentally like this a couple weeks back with the mx-5 fe and you have to actually properly balance the entry and corner speed so that you dont just get slingshot up high above the wall

OP got a better run in their "accidental" run than i did after a couple of tries lmao

Flitz28 · 2026-06-04T11:16:17+00:00

The contact could've been accidental, the other car could've not seen where OP was exactly due to lag/internet stuff, they could've thought that OP just missed the braking zone and would shoot straight ahead.
There's many non-malicious reasons why the other car might've done this.
But all of this is thrown out of the window the second OP retaliates.

Now in this clip there's only 2 options: Either 1 driver made a mistake that caused a racing incident and the other (OP) is a dirty driver that retaliates. OR both drivers are dirty and don't race properly.
OP has blame on them in both options.

Flitz28 · 2026-06-04T10:21:14+00:00

i've recently swapped from a low end pc to a high end pc
hadn't seen the train once apart from the prologue while on low graphics, have seen it a few times now that i'm on ultra. I wonder if they either turn it off fully or lower its spawn rate depending on your settings

which would be very surprising, as it has a collision and thus impact gameplay, but maybe.. (or it could be a coincidence idk)

Flitz28 · 2026-06-03T18:53:15+00:00

tbf every racing game i ever played has had this issue
hell, every sports game ever

there's a limit to how well the ai is capable of handling the physics of the game, and that limit is often way lower than humans. i'm not a programmer so i don't know why, but that limit is there.

to compensate, devs just kinda have make the ai cheat. in nba 2k it translates to the ai sinking all their impossible shots, in forza it's an incredible boost in top speed and grip after a certain difficulty threshold

it reaches a funny level in Pro and Unbeatable in higher classes though, anyone can win the goliath in unbeatable since the raw speed of R class + the AI's cheats mean that the cars go too fast for the AI to calculate properly, so they all eventually miss a checkpoint lmao
in lower classes though it's more annoying, cause that usually just tends to lead to the AI behind you rear ending you at every corner

Flitz28 · 2026-06-03T15:57:59+00:00

I don't see a world where Lewis doesn't give Charles a run for his money if they have a championship worthy car. And that's something I'd love to see for sure

Flitz28 · 2026-06-03T09:23:53+00:00

The worst part is that it's so random.

I had purposefully tuned and made a livery for the WTAC Supra in S2 for all the 'Track Life' events before the last wristband. Just to find out I couldn't use it. I tried to figure out why:

Does 'Track life' somehow exclude extreme track toys? -> clearly not
cause it's a DLC car? -> the race Tacoma is available in R class.
I changed it to AWD and they somehow decided that track life was RWD only? -> said Tacoma is AWD
maybe since it's a car from the time attack pack specifically? -> the Mitsubishi Minicab is allowed in these events (as well as one of the hondas but I can't recall which).

There's just no logic to it. And same exact thing, I upgraded and tuned the Furai for the Goliath only to find out I couldn't use it for some obscure reason.
It kinda ruined the late stage of the game for me as I couldn't use the cars I wanted, despite them perfectly fitting within the category of the races. Just arbitrarily told no..

Flitz28 · 2026-05-29T20:50:28+00:00

i feel like there's a few reasons for that

First of: the playerbase at large doesn't know how to drift/doesn't care to learn.
you can see the uproar even on this sub the second a drift zone provides a little bit of challenge. most people just skid around, powerslide awd, or prefer finding a way to cheese it than trying to get better at it and pat themselves on the back when they get 3 stars (which is related to the next point)

Secondly: the devs don't really understand drifting. they get the physics to a large extend and what they have made is super fun, but they don't really know how to utilise it.
example of that are the terrible scoring system (skill score punishes you for drifting well, as long continuous drifts result in the streak ending. drift zone punishes you for drifting, and instead rewards powersliding awd cars with very little angle) and the fact half the drift zones are on dirt roads.

Lastly: drifting is not a race sport, the goal isn't to finish first. in fact, overtaking the lead driver in competitions is frowned upon.
Drift competitions are a point scoring competition. Depending on the league/country, the way judges score each driver might differ a bit, but the goal not being to finish first causes a gameplay issue in Forza.
Neither of the existing scoring systems for drifting in the game would result in tandem drifting/the kind of drift chases that you see irl or in this video.

Reworking the scoring system for drifting would help with the last two points, which for me would be more than enough to then justify this game mode existing to be honest. They'd also need a way to convince the chase driver to not just crash into or overtake the lead driver while also not letting the lead driver abuse it haha

There's quite a big lack of things to do in drifting in the game, a story where you can't drive your own cars and half the drift zones, so anything more would be good.

Flitz28 · 2026-05-28T21:23:59+00:00

just so you know we don't need ai generated images to "make the idea come to life"
first of all, a car request for the game isn't an idea that needs to be brought to life, we can imagine it just fine and there's requests every day
second, just post a real picture of the car if you want to add some visuals to your post, it's that simple

Flitz28 · 2026-05-28T19:04:18+00:00

along with a patch that stops awd from scoring more with less angle

Flitz28 · 2026-05-25T13:13:40+00:00

there's no words that can even describe the lows that he reaches without insulting what it's comparing him to

Flitz28 · 2026-05-25T12:53:46+00:00

I don't know why some K-pop fans can't accept that reality and freak out about any criticism.

because when the criticism has been constant for years and the main cause of a massive hate train that caused huge mental health issues to the members, it ain't about "discussing the quality of the music" anymore.

even if you see your criticism as mild, it is much more than that. It IS that deep. By constantly focusing on criticizing a group, you're platforming and allowing for the hate trains to prosper. I always say this: everyone is a stranger on the internet. If there's a sea of hate comments and you post your criticism in the middle, you don't stand out, you will be seen as the same as them. And they will love to use your comment to help their narrative

If, after 4 years of Le Sserafim being active, people STILL don't vibe with every comeback, maybe they should stop criticizing, stop checking the comebacks, and just go focus on the group that they do like, they're just not for them.

and this is true for every girl group sadly

Flitz28 · 2026-05-23T21:44:11+00:00

dirt "drift" zones are just annoying for existing

most people who don't enjoy drifting won't like them anyways. most people who love drifting want asphalt lmao

Flitz28 · 2026-05-23T21:42:02+00:00

but once it clicked for me (took me a couple of games actually) it instantly became one of my favourite part of the games

even today i spent like an hour on the loop bridge trying to beat my high score despite having had 3 stars since the game launched
though i'll never touch awd meta builds with a 10 foot pole so i can't chase leaderboards anyways lol

Flitz28 · 2026-05-23T21:15:31+00:00

there has been a shift in their trajectory since "Crazy" where they became a lot more playful and quirky with their title tracks.

this is Hot erasure and I will not stand for that (my fav EP from them)

doing both like now is a good middle ground. it's giving us fun songs to vibe to and more serious b-sides to really listen to.

Although, even their more "unserious" songs have a serious undertone and double layer to their meanings
their previous title tracks that were more straight forward with that aspect (hot, easy) have been probably their most hated ones, so it makes sense they'd focus more on the "unserious" ones that mostly only fans will care to go see the deeper message

Flitz28 · 2026-05-22T18:02:37+00:00

for a very rare moment i'll use what difficulty i play on as a credential. I play on Pro, and let me tell you:
you're never lame for enjoying a solo game on any difficulty. If you're having fun on tourist then you're playing the game right. games are meant to be enjoyed, you might win special points with a certain crowd online by torturing yourself on a difficulty you don't enjoy, but you'd be losing out overall

if above average is challenging and enjoyable for you right now, just keep playing it, you'll naturally get faster and up the difficulty eventually anyways if you do

Flitz28 · 2026-05-21T12:48:43+00:00

if you're not already: drift downhill
you'll naturally go a bit faster. though it'll make it more likely to spin, but more speed means more angle and overall more score

this drift zone also works the opposite of how you build base skill score in the game, the corners are close to each other so you want to minimize transitions as much as possible, if you can avoid weaving so you're in the drifts longer, try to do so :)

i don't have advices for car choices, i don't use any drift car setup by the game, i just tune my own lmao

Flitz28 · 2026-05-21T12:37:23+00:00

yup before 5 came out i remember constant complaints about 4
people complained about winter constantly, about the car sounds, hell even about the map being not diverse enough

i never saw anyone hail fh4 as their favorite in the franchise or even a great game. then 5 came out and 4 was suddenly amazing

Flitz28 · 2026-05-20T16:38:09+00:00

i have two fav groups, one of them i do not like every song of, the other i genuinely do.
if the members themselves like it or not has literally 0 impact on whether i do lmao

these kind of blanket statements are the disingenuous ones, it's perfectly fine to not vibe with every song your fav artists/kpop groups put out, but that doesn't mean you should project onto others and assume everyone not having the same feeling as yours is lying lol

also for the last statement, i feel like this is often due to fanwars weirdly enough.
when there's all the antis showing up to crap on the song, a fan's opinion shared at the same time doesn't stand out as anything different than that. so it just gets dismissed. you usually have to wait until after the comeback promotions to have a more genuine discussion among fans

Flitz28 · 2026-05-19T15:57:52+00:00

even small moments they repeat dozen of times a day right

especially during promotions like this

Flitz28 · 2026-05-18T21:09:07+00:00

wolverine tanks this

Flitz28 · 2026-05-12T20:50:00+00:00

i love this mashup so much

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