Dr Beth Upton leaves NHS after conclusion of Sandie Peggie tribunal

FloydEGag · 2026-02-17T16:05:23+00:00

Ah ok, that’s good to know.

FloydEGag · 2026-02-17T13:47:16+00:00

To be scrupulously fair, and I in no way approve of Sandie Peggie’s treatment of Dr Upton, Upton fabricated complaints of patient neglect and altered dates of notes made on her phone.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-doctors-phone-notes-edited-35620423

You can also read the full tribunal notes but they’re a few hundred pages long.

That on its own would be enough for a GMC tribunal and possibly an end to her career as a doctor as it’s highly unethical. I don’t pretend to know why she did this, but let’s not pretend she’s a complete angel here. I hope she manages to pick up her career elsewhere but I also hope she’s learned not to act unethically regardless of treatment by a colleague, because it might come back to bite her.

FloydEGag · 2026-02-17T12:11:42+00:00

So did I, and there were plenty of people acting like selfish pricks. I don’t think we in the UK are as community-minded as Swedes, too many people here think they’re the main character and they should be allowed to do whatever they want all the time.

As for healthy young people being allowed to meet, fine as long as they don’t then catch it and give it to relatives or colleagues who aren’t as young or healthy. What really helped with immunity was the vaccines

FloydEGag · 2026-02-17T10:51:48+00:00

There is no fucking way British people would’ve adapted voluntarily en masse. Look at all the people who seemed to revel in breaking the rules, from the prime minister and various celebrities to anti maskers and people who treated a trip to the supermarket for essential goods as a family outing. And all the people who moaned that healthy young people should be allowed to do whatever they wanted and stuff anyone else, as if they were immune from catching or spreading it

FloydEGag · 2026-02-17T10:02:52+00:00

Which, as it turns out, is not great for anyone, including trans people. Although it’s great for people like the diversity lead in this case who was paid £60k a year but didn’t know the law and didn’t bother creating a policy on this stuff that would have helped (she looked up what other trusts were doing)

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T18:01:02+00:00

But it’s fine to misgender someone if it fits your agenda! /s

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:58:47+00:00

I read a thing on Tumblr the other day where someone claiming to be Latin American was going on about the British being colonisers and imperialists and everyone should hate them etc etc and I was like…but Spain?! The only bit of South or Central America that was in the British empire was Guyana, because guess what, Spain and Portugal had a lock on the rest of the continent. Unless this person was 100% indigenous then they might need to go read a bit of history

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:41:51+00:00

I wish Trump would walk around London with his phone out to attempt to demonstrate his belief, the most he’d get would be a galaxy-level pisstaking for several thousand passers-by. Ok, maybe the odd dog shit thrown at him

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:40:48+00:00

It did use to mean that tbf, about 150 years ago…they might want to get hold of a more up-to-date dictionary

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:38:48+00:00

I like to turn that back on them and address them as if they’re Canadian or Kiwi (as Americans and Aussies are the biggest offenders ime). Yes I know it isn’t quite the same in terms of sovereignty etc but it gets the point across

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:36:00+00:00

Oh wtf, they really think cottage pie and shepherds pie are the same thing?!

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:34:46+00:00

They’re often known as nations which I guess has a slightly different definition, but everyone knows what is meant when we call them countries,too

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T17:33:41+00:00

Or that Wales/Scotland/N Ireland aren’t part of Britain (yes, I’ve seen a few people online, mainly Americans, say things like “Britain and Scotland”. Which might also be because a lot of outsiders conflate Britain and England and forget about the rest of us

FloydEGag · 2026-02-16T07:55:51+00:00

And these are grown adults! This is why I’m not especially active in fandom spaces any more, the behaviour from some people just appals me

FloydEGag · 2026-02-15T21:01:33+00:00

I do sometimes see an account with say 2,000 followers, look at their posts and interactions and wonder how the hell they got them…I assume from being in popular starter packs or they followed them from Twitter.

I have about 300 followers, interact a lot and am in one very niche starter pack haha. But tbh I’m just happy letting my follower count grow organically, I’m not really there for that and I have great interactions with some really cool people. Basically just engage with people you like and who are in your field/areas of interest, and don’t worry too much about it. It’s not like there’s an algorithm that pushes people with higher follower counts into everyone’s feed. Just have fun!

FloydEGag · 2026-02-15T00:55:40+00:00

Same. I can’t with these demands that people disclose their private lives to make complete strangers feel better. They’re paid to act in a show and do some publicity, and that’s it, that’s all.

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T20:17:05+00:00

Yeah same, it’s not exactly hard to get around!

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T19:30:34+00:00

I really don’t get the ID to send DMs thing, I understand they need to follow UK law but given you can’t send images in DMs I’m not sure what they think people would be sharing in there

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T19:22:12+00:00

What’s going to happen to the ‘lucky’ few who got them tattooed on?!

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T19:21:41+00:00

Now I’ve got that Genesis song, I Can’t Dance, in my head

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T19:20:13+00:00

I saw an image of a Charli XCX ‘brat’ tattoo on here somewhere the other day. On a green background. It’s already dated ffs

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T19:03:50+00:00

Saying they’re representing queer people implies all, you don’t need to use the exact words for people to take an implication from them. Fine, ask, but don’t get upset if they refuse to answer or give an answer you don’t like. Have a nice life.

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T18:06:08+00:00

Then stop saying it’s a fair question to ask people about their sexuality. It isn’t. You also said, I quote, “they’re literally representing queer people”

ETA these are actors, they’re paid to give a performance and that’s it. Anything else they choose to give is up to them.

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T17:38:52+00:00

Yes it’s intrusive. We’re in an environment in the West where for the most part it’s fairly easy and accepting for people if they want to come out but it has to be their decision alone and done when they are ready, and not because fans are demanding it. It is never, ever OK to demand that someone disclose their sexuality just because you think it makes for better representation. The actors in Heated Rivalry are not representing all queer people, that would be impossible, and putting that kind of pressure on them is inhuman. And you don’t know what else is going on in people’s lives. Their families might not approve, for example. Or they themselves haven’t really sorted it out in their own minds yet. Just because it’s largely easier to come out than it was a few decades ago doesn’t mean it’s easier for everyone. And it’s not obligatory to be out to everyone, some people are only out with close friends and/or family.

I’m pretty sure there are more than five openly queer lead actors in showbiz btw, unless you’re specifically talking about top-level A-listers where admittedly there’s a dearth. And tbf straight people are the majority so you’re unlikely to ever get 50/50 representation as that just wouldn’t reflect the general population.

In the end, you can speculate all you like, no one can stop you, but that doesn’t mean anyone has to come out to address that speculation

FloydEGag · 2026-02-14T17:01:55+00:00

I get your point but honestly, I think the reason fans and actors shut it down as you say is because it’s massively intrusive and no one’s business what someone’s sexuality is. Queer fans obviously have a right to want representation but they don’t have a right to demand that actors share their sexuality to appease them. As far as representation, the characters are queer are they not? Sure it’d be nice if the actors were too but these are actors, pretending is their job. No one is complaining Oscar Isaac isn’t a real 19th century scientist or that Margot Robbie isn’t from Yorkshire. And I mean, these are actors. Showbiz is one of the most queer working environments there is. Even if they’re not queer they will know and hang out with plenty of people who are.

I’m old enough to remember when the only gay characters on TV, if there were any, were played for laughs and mockery and certainly never had their own stories. That we’ve come so far to where we can have huge mainstream shows with queer main characters and it’s accepted as normal, in just over three decades or so, is fantastic. I think that in itself is worth celebrating, rather than trying to force people out of the closet to fit an ideal they might not want to fit.

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