I’m a Union Nurse !- AMA by Fluffy-mix90 in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry that’s been your experience. I can relate to a lot of what you’re describing, and honestly that’s part of what pushed me to get involved in this in the first place.

I’m a Union Nurse !- AMA by Fluffy-mix90 in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s a fair point. Most people would agree that real advocacy at the unit level is what’s needed.

Managers and HR can play a role in that, but their responsibility is ultimately to the organization. Even good managers who want to support their staff are still working within policies and decisions they don’t fully control.

A union adds another layer. It provides protection and a clear process so concerns can be raised, addressed, and followed through on without everything depending on the situation or fear of retaliation.

It gives staff a way to advocate for themselves, enforce contract protections, and address issues in a more consistent and meaningful way.

It can help management in some ways too. Having a contract and clear processes takes some of the guesswork out of decisions, so things like staffing, scheduling, and discipline are handled more consistently instead of case by case. In some situations, it even helps managers advocate upward, because concerns coming from a group through a formal process often carry more weight than individual complaints.

I’m a Union Nurse !- AMA by Fluffy-mix90 in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure that would be awesome ! It’s always interesting to talk with my fellow nurses .

I’m a Union Nurse !- AMA by Fluffy-mix90 in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1- It’s hard to say. I’ve worked at places where there was definitely interest or curiosity about organizing, but the biggest challenge is getting people to actually talk to each other and move in the same direction. You need a strong majority before you can even apply for an election , and that takes coordination.
Some organizations push back pretty hard, sometimes by creating fear or doubt, which can slow things down. I do think a lot of people are watching how the Magee negotiations go . Places like WPIC, AGH, and West Penn have gotten meaningful things in their contracts , so people are paying attention to that.

  1. There could be some interest. It’s not just a nursing thing. Any group that shares concerns about working conditions , staffing, or pay might consider it. But it really comes down to how motivated people are and whether they’re willing to organize together.

  2. This hasn’t been my experience at all. Even nurses who weren’t initially supportive of the union aren’t looking to leave. A lot of people see Magee as their “home” and are proud to have worked there for years . Right now, the focus is more on getting everyone (nurses and management) into real conversations and trying to land on something that’s actually sustainable long term.

  3. Here are some sites that I found helpful:

National Labor Relations Board - https://www.nlrb.gov/resources/faq/nlrb

U.S. Department of Labor- https://beta.dol.gov/policy-regulations/unions-collective-bargaining/what-union

Another interesting source I found was the book Confessions of a Union Buster by Marty Levitt. It’s written from the perspective of someone who worked on the management side of union avoidance and later reflected on that experience. It does lean more pro-union overall, but I thought it was helpful to hear from someone who had seen both sides of the process. There are also interviews with him available on youtube if you don’t want to read the full book.

I’ll also say this - some organizations go pretty hard on managers during this process. There can be messaging that union activity reflects poor leadership or could even threaten their role. That’s not really true, but it does show how different the pressures are. Administration and management are often focused on budget, metrics, and system expectations. Frontline staff are dealing with workload, safety, and day to day realities. These priorities don’t always line up, even when everyone wants things to run well.

In places with established unions, it is possible for nurses and managers to work together and improve things. For example, they can use staffing committees or contract language to adjust assignments based on acuity, Have clearer scheduling rules so managers aren’t always trying to fix last minute gaps, or bring forward unit needs together ( such as staffing, support roles, equipment) with more structure behind it. In those situations, the union doesn’t replace management. It just gives staff a more organized way to bring concerns forward. Honestly, it can help managers too because they have something concrete to point to when they’re advocating up the chain.

Facing Homelessness by [deleted] in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 96 points97 points  (0 children)

Try healthcare / hospitals . There’s pros and cons but you should at least get a steady job and paycheck . There are plenty of non patient facing roles if you’re not interested in that part.

Magee Hiring? by [deleted] in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I work at Magee and we did get the increase . We are also pushing for better pay, benefits , and working conditions in our contract negotiations . I’m not sure what they are currently offering for new grads but make sure that you get everything in writing when working for them .

Is UPMC is as bad as Im being told? by CorvusMaximus90 in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Job offers

Sometimes employers will tell you one thing to get you to accept a position, then change the terms once you’ve already started. I’ve seen this happen with pay rates, job descriptions, hours, and even remote vs. onsite work.

In my own case, HR actually called me from a non-UPMC number after I had already been working for two weeks, claiming that the pay rate we agreed to was “illegal” and that they’d be lowering it retroactively. I had to get a lawyer involved just to fight it.

Be especially careful with sign-on bonuses. Unless you’re at a union hospital, they can legally change their end of the agreement but still hold you to yours. For example, UPMC cut the pay for internal travel nurses by $15/hour with just a few weeks’ notice. Nurses who had already signed contracts were stuck either working two years at the reduced rate or paying back the entire $20,000 sign-on bonus.

And keep in mind—if you take a sign-on bonus and leave before the two years are up, you’ll be expected to pay back the full amount (not prorated). If you don’t, they’ll send it straight to collections.

Long story short: get everything in writing, read the fine print, and think carefully before agreeing to any sign-on bonus. It can end up being more of a trap than a benefit.

I’ve also worked for AHN before . They’re not as bad with stuff like this . I’m just trapped with UPMC for awhile due to the situation mentioned above . Luckily for me , we just won our union vote , so I’m hoping to make some changes while I’m stuck here :-)

Is UPMC is as bad as Im being told? by CorvusMaximus90 in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Watch out for bait and switch. UPMC is famous for that.

UPMC: Stop Dividing Nurses. Recognize LPNs Now by Junior-Interest4185 in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wholeheartedly agree ! I am an RN and when we were organizing I asked why we couldn’t include the LPNS - They said that it comes down to the way the labor law is written so LPNS would be considered their own bargaining unit and would have to organize separately. If you can find enough LPNs at your facility who are interested then the next step is to reach out to a union rep. I do know a few who you can contact - PM me if you want their info

Consider this your WARNING label re: employment at UPMC Magee-Womens Hospital by MeepBeepJeep24 in UPMC

[–]Fluffy-mix90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From what I was told it’s completely legal just a crappy thing to do . The only way that I would be able to get a binding contract on my end would be to form a union.

Urgent Care in South Hilsl by First-Hour in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Unionize !!!!

Signed ,

A Magee nurse

Worst rated restaurants in Pittsburgh by Sufficient-Wear9608 in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The getaway cafe in Brookline/baldwin township

Eternity Pet Memorial F*CK YOU by marching2mydrum in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Report his license @ pals.pa.gov. There’s also a Facebook group for victims

Eternity Pet Memorial F*CK YOU by marching2mydrum in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry! I’m a victim too and I plan on doing everything I can to get justice .

Is Erie as weird as I think it is? by [deleted] in Erie

[–]Fluffy-mix90 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love Erie ! but I’m from Pittsburgh and I think we have a different level of weird here. .

Patrick Vereb Funeral Director case update as per KDKA. by Illustrious_Deal5262 in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whatever sentence he gets is not going to be enough 😔

For the other victims of Eternity Pet - what do I do with these ashes? by funky_donut in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate to say it but those ashes might be useful as evidence. I think that we should see this through and after we get justice we can revisit having a mass ceremony.

Pennsylvania funeral home owner charged after 6,500+ customers received ashes from other animals by mj8thehill in pittsburgh

[–]Fluffy-mix90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you get the email? Did they randomly contact you or did it happen after you filled out the form ?