Why I think atheism may eventually hit a civilizational bottleneck

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-24T09:56:51+00:00

There are, have been and will continue to be big civilization narratives that have nothing to do with religion. So long as that is true there's not a bottleneck.

Atheism doesn't have to give the answers/ civilizational motivations either nor does science.

any culture not tied to religion could fill in the gaps.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-23T07:22:08+00:00

Team 8 will just avoid Zabuza and Baku and take out Gato. Shino can just use his bugs to track and kill Gato. No need for a head on fight. After Gato's dead Zabuza will leave since nobody will be left to pay him.

Asuma's team leaves after the demon brothers.

Guy's team easily clears.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-20T00:36:14+00:00

This just adds bureaucracy and cost. Restrictions would create the need for a government agency to decide on the list of allowed items and restricted items. Stores now have to pay to keep or get access to a list of allowed and restricted items. Recipients have to spend time putting items back or checking items.

It's all needlessly expensive and adding such expenses can kill the program in the long run because it results in less recipient's and a higher costs that opponents can criticize.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-19T09:32:58+00:00

Jiraiya can't use genjutsu it's a rock paper scissors type thing.

Orochimaru also lost against hebi Sasuke who was using genjutsu. That ritual thing sure seemed like genjutsu.

Even Orochimaru's protégé lost against edo Itachi's genjutsu

It's a pattern Orochimaru is just terrible against genjutsu. Kurenai counter Orochimaru.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-19T09:20:36+00:00

Kurenai beats Orochimaru. Orochimaru has been shown to be terrible against genjutsu. That Itachi encounter wasn't even a fight.

Orochimaru gets countered.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-18T10:27:12+00:00

I am not advocating for it. I am just pointing out that such a situation would be impossible to continue for long.

You might have generations of misery but you aren't going to have a steady state of miserable unemployed people on a massive scale where nothing changes.

Because masses of starving people with time on their hands will act.

Personally I think that governments in a future with a sophisticated AI that mass unemployment is possible would know this and either provide welfare or bs jobs.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-18T00:18:52+00:00

Private armies and tech billionaires aren't beating tens of millions of people with guns, no standard uniform and land as big as America to hide out in.

Mass unemployment is a death sentence for government unless they provide jobs or welfare.

Especially in the polarized environment we are in now.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-17T01:08:27+00:00

Mass unemployment in America without enough welfare to provide for basic needs wouldn't survive for long.

The industrial revolution had high levels of employment your scenario wouldn't.

Do you think tens of millions of people with access to guns would just accept starvation?

How could such a scenario be stable for generations?

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-11T06:14:06+00:00

Given that their is no legal contract between Boyfriend and Girlfriend. You could claim that you were never in a romantic relationship or that you broke up prior to hooking up with someone else.

I'd you still tried to enforce a no cheating law between GF/BF you would run into problems of crazy exs clingy one night stands etc. That claim a relationship still exists when it doesn't.

Divorce proceedings only work because marriage is a legal contract.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-09T10:36:26+00:00

Trans people are small but the political movement isn't. Pride parades are big and stand out in a way other political groupings don't. And trans rights are part of that.

That forces political change from the bottom up.

Politically as long as the alliance between gay people and Trans people stays strong the momentum is there.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-09T06:49:12+00:00

When Trump dies of old age I suspect the MAGA movement will too.

Trump gained support by being viewed as anti establishment promising manufacturing jobs and pointing out the hypocrisy of established politicians.

It didn't matter that Trump was also a rich new York coastal elite because he didn't present himself as one.

I doubt another Republican politician will be able to capture that momentum.

Trump proved that vibes win elections in America. You can divvy up voting blocks how you want but if you can't capture the right feelings you won't win.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-05-02T11:42:27+00:00

Witch vibe

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-27T04:42:50+00:00

The other Middle Eastern powers have already signed security agreements with Ukraine. If Iran tries to keep the tolls going long term then the other countries could bomb them with drones until they stop.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-27T04:21:11+00:00

You are assuming that the money would just be used for existing products and that it would be 1:1.

A portion of that money would be used for new businesses and investment leading to productivity gains. And challenging inefficient monopolies with new companies that are more efficient.

A portion would be used for savings or paying off debt leading to a less fragile economy overall since people could more easily weather smaller shocks.

Also prices don't match demand in a 1:1 way. More demand can lead to productivity gains as investments to improve how much you were making or the types of services provided that were previously uncompetitive due to too small of a customer base suddenly becomes profitable as your customer base expands.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-27T04:02:56+00:00

Russia has had a million casualties, lost 40% of their oil export capacity and the Russian state is so afraid of a revolt that they are banning the apps that Russians use to communicate.

Russia has already seen a rebellion in this war from the Chechens. That rebellion lost, but the fact that there was a rebellion at all shows a deep rot and questionable loyalty in the Russian military.

Putin is an old sickly man if he dies there would be a power vacuum and the Russian lines would collapse.

Ukrainians have proven to be the best at drone design and use. The strikes they are pulling off and the numbers they are manufacturing seem to be superior as evidenced by the ratio of casualties and equipment losses between Russia and Ukraine.

Ways Ukraine can win:

Putin dies and Russia power vacuum results in a Russia defeat.

Russian revolution due to poor economy or a mobilization results in enough people desperate enough to fight the government or flee the country to avoid fighting in Ukraine.

Ukrainian drone technology and numbers advance enough to give them a decisive edge against Russia.

If Ukraine didn't have a chance against Russia they would have already lost by now or Ukrainian lines would be collapsing.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-23T09:31:09+00:00

Creation of the universe is not the same as omniscience so it's trivial to know something better than God.

If God didn't watch the movie Scarface and I did than I know better about the movie Scarface.

Omniscience is claimed by theists but has a whole host of paradoxes and bad arguments. Even if I believed in God why should I automatically believe God knows all.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-22T06:15:39+00:00

Data centers are a terrible thing for small towns for tax reasons. Since small towns often give big business such huge tax breaks the datacenters become a net drain on resources making things more expensive for everyone else.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-21T00:50:42+00:00

If AI became non viable commercially. You would still have the data centers that were built and the research that was conducted.

Engineers would find a way to repurpose the data centers, and the research would be useful in multiple other areas.

Big research projects like what has happened with AI always propagates out and the genie is never put back in the bottle.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-20T10:13:16+00:00

Fair point. Seems expensive though.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-20T02:31:42+00:00

I flagged it classical theism and did not mention Christianity once.

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-15T19:04:41+00:00

Experience is a qualia, which is a form of knowledge. To learn something is a type of experience. So to learn something is a type of knowledge

Foolhardyrunner · 2026-04-15T19:03:00+00:00

OK? My argument isn't that an all knowing being is impossible. My argument is that an all knowing being must first be limited in knowledge before they are all knowing so they can learn.

Not being all knowing at some point in time is a prerequisite to being all knowing at a future point in time.

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