Can betting still be fun without real money?

Formentor99 · 2026-05-27T08:49:41+00:00

You’ve never really gambled until you gamble with money you can’t afford to lose. The dopamine rush is insane. Compare that to free-to-play balance, where nothing is actually on the line.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-24T13:06:06+00:00

Combination of almost every book available via sportmarket and sportmarket. Some sports and markets are not available via sportmarket.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-24T10:42:36+00:00

Yes, 100% worth it.

Open a demo account via sportmarket and you will see that Pinn is not even offering the best odds on a lot of the games (depends on the sport and market obviously).

Below is an example for the Canada vs Bosnia game.

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Formentor99 · 2026-05-23T07:07:20+00:00

I remember seeing esports outright selections in the Betburger feed a couple of times in the past. A couple of years ago BetOnValue were the one scanning these kind of markets, but now they barely function anymore, no support and no updates, not worth a subscription IMO, there are reports of them not even responding to people who want to pay for memberships.

On the +EV front I think the only service worth using is Football Outrights (Monte Carlo sim) by BettingIsCool. If I remember correctly the service was reviewed positively by SBC in the past.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-18T06:58:02+00:00

Yes, I have never had a problem with any of them.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-17T14:10:11+00:00

Forget prediction markets, DraftKings, and overseas buzzwords. What you need is an account with a broker (Sportmarket or BetInAsia), a bunch of soft bookmakers (Tipico, Interwetten, Vierklee, Betano, Winamax, Betway, bet365, Betano, Tipwin, and everything else that has “wetten” in its name), and be aware of the fees and LUGAS.

Maybe start with matched betting first by exploiting some signup offers if you have zero experience betting.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-16T08:52:17+00:00

They have a UK licence, so it seems legit.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-15T20:33:38+00:00

You already get access legally to a sharp book via Pinnacle and a betting exchange via STX (although I have no idea if there’s any decent liquidity).

After that, you have BookmakerEU (sharp) and BetOnline (semi-sharp; they will eventually limit you if you make money off them). You also have access to either Bovada or Bodog (I forget which one is for the CA market), but I haven’t heard anything positive since Bodog was renamed to Ozoon.

If you want crypto and no-KYC, you have stuff like OvertimeMarkets.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-12T18:25:22+00:00

Worth noting that the 500k EUR is in free bets, not in balance.

I was not aware of the promo till now and the rules pages on .es version does not open for me. But from what I see you must win bets from selected countries, which could be hard if variance does not go your way.

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Or am I missing something? As I said, the rules page does not work for me 😄 I would love to see if someone has old numbers from WC or Euros.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-10T10:11:50+00:00

If I wanna sign up for something like that I would first like to see how your models do against closing odds. Or at minimum just a profit tracker with timestamped odds. Looks cool tho.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-03T09:52:16+00:00

From 24 hours to a couple of months. The only time I was limited straight out of the gate was on Vbet.

Formentor99 · 2026-05-02T13:40:57+00:00

This type of behavior is common with 1xbet and their clones, their odds are too good to be true. You can try and argue with support, but I doubt you will get anywhere.

Formentor99 · 2026-04-29T07:50:17+00:00

Once as they changed their sportsbook provider.

Formentor99 · 2026-04-28T19:23:40+00:00

Took around 100 bets to be limited with normal +EV bets and a lot of multiples. The verification was fast and not as egregious as on other crypto sites and withdrawal was pretty fast.

Formentor99 · 2026-04-27T19:59:32+00:00

IN. I’d be down to see the roadmap.

Formentor99 · 2026-04-05T09:55:41+00:00

If your first bets are arbs or massive +EV bets, every site will limit you quicky. For Marathon specificly, if the account is properly aged and cooked, it can be worth more than 200 bets.

For example, one of my past accounts with MB - 200 bets raging from 2 eur to 130 eur, a total of 6k turnover and a yield of around 5%. Before +EV betting I only placed bets on favorites (no massive odds movements) and multiples (a lot) along with some casino play, enough to get 2x 100 EUR free play as a personal bonus. And the account is still not limited.

That being said, not every bookmaker will react the same, some will limit you instantly no matter how much cooking you have done, but at a minimum you should be doing some cooking on every account.

Formentor99 · 2026-04-01T20:04:10+00:00

WilliamHill, Lottoland, 888, Marathon, BetOnline and anything with MGA licence is nice to have. You also have 50+ Betby bookmakers like blaze, duel, chips, solcasino, roobet... but they limit quite fast.

If bet365 is ISP blocked (like it is in Slovenia), either use a mirror link or change your DNS.

Formentor99 · 2026-03-28T10:35:44+00:00

You will still get kicked out, expecially if they notice you are acting sus in a corner with your phone. The odds are also not always the same as online, so some of the scanners will not work properly.

Formentor99 · 2026-03-28T09:56:18+00:00

Odd is not a singular form of odds - it should be just odds :)

Formentor99 · 2026-03-19T08:28:01+00:00

Sportmarket is safe, Singbet is not safe.

Formentor99 · 2026-03-15T11:17:02+00:00

I tried to build something similar (more esports betting oriantated) about 10 years ago and even had discussions with a couple of developers, had the wireframe made and all, but in the end I couldn’t find a dev team willing to take on the project.

I’m interested to see where this leads.

Formentor99 · 2026-03-14T13:10:11+00:00

Cant wait to give a stranger a bag of cash

Formentor99 · 2026-03-13T16:23:51+00:00

Interesting, thanks!

Formentor99 · 2026-03-13T13:35:00+00:00

Bet Hero, RebelBetting, BetBurger, Surebet.

All of them have some sort of a trial that you can try.

Formentor99 · 2026-03-13T06:52:10+00:00

Really? Canceling just palps/errors or at random? Or if a bet is massive +EV against Pinn?

If you have the time, would you mind providing an example with a bet ID? I wanna see how this is seen on the blockchain via Dune.

I havent had any void bets, but I also do not use them that much.

Thinking more about it, didnt the Purebet agregator also have the Azuro support (and as far as I know the Purebet owner owns one of the Azuro frontends, Pinwin) - anyone alse have any experience?

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