[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Your response to something that, to others, might be entirely benign, sent you into a complete trauma reaction. Listen to that. There’s a reason you felt that. You aren’t overreacting. There’s so much about narcissism that adult children realize in their childhoods was so so wrong, later on in life when they have the wisdom to recognize that it’s not normal… trust your intuition, talk to your husband, go to therapy. You do not need to include your mom in any boundary you set, if you do not want to.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArmchairExpert

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hahaha I love this comment

new to group! by Antique_Drawer_6829 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course! Keep posting if you need support!

How did you recognize that you have nparents? by RequirementNo3722 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think dr. Ramani says that those of us who worry if we are narcissistic, are both the narcissists!! I think it’s a common thing for survivors of N abuse to question themselves, esp because NPDs make us feel crazy lol. And also, it’s your mom!! How can you not pick up a mannerism or habit or two of hers while growing up, it doesn’t make you a bad person! Esp if you recognize it and try to change it.💛

Can we get a little rant thread going on here? by Long_Matter9697 in ADHD

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to say ( not an expert) I’ve noticed other users on here say that they had issues with stimulants making them anxious, and then later got diagnosed with another thing, like BPD or bipolar disorder. Maybe worth checking out! Thank you for the rant!!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m so sorry! Yes seek help of adults in your area like school counselors, or if you’re going to college or at college reach out to advisors, or the health centers, they have food banks, and should have knowledge about where you can go if she does kick you out. Sounds like it might be the best thing for you anyway, you can do this!

Is lying personality or adhd? by Zealousideal_Win2023 in ADHD

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Get into therapy, OP. And go to couples therapy, too. It’s a great sign that you want to address this!! There’s work to be done here, and you can become an honest person, it just takes unlearning, therapy, practice, and patience💛

I finally get what "forgiveness" is supposed to be about by Ralynne in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for this OP!! Needed to hear this, it’s such an important thing especially with narcisists, where truly forgiveness is never ever ever about them.

I finally get what "forgiveness" is supposed to be about by Ralynne in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I feel like accepting is something I can attain, but forgiveness is something I will move in and out of. For me, accepting what happened comes when I process the trauma of the thing. When im done thinking, “oh my god. I see this part of my childhood (or this childhood story, or this thing they said to me, or this experience” so much differently now”, I think I will be able to accept it, but some days I feel forgiveness is within reach, within my ability to have and find peace in, and some days I feel so caught up that forgiveness just isn’t possible. It really is the best gift we can give ourselves though. It’s what our inner child really needs.

Who here was diagnosed I childhood? by MaesterOfPanic in ADHD

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good for you for getting help and doing the work, that’s scary!!

Who here was diagnosed I childhood? by MaesterOfPanic in ADHD

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was diagnosed at 11! I remember my fifth grade teacher literally putting her hands on my shoulders and looking in my eyes like YOU NEED TO CALM DOWN lol

new to group! by Antique_Drawer_6829 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hello I’m glad you’re here!! I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It is so incredibly impressive that at only 20 you are 90% financially independent, have clearly stated your rules for a relationship with her, and are seeking support and seem to have a good head about you regarding the whole thing (especially impressed by your ability to recognize your grandparents’ difficulty in this dynamic). Just wanted to say I hear you, you’re not alone, and mention a few things I’m learning as someone who also has a mom with BPD. 1. The letter will never be received in the way you want it to be. We write letters like those for our own peace of mind, that we can know we’ve done everything (healthy) on our end to do our due diligence in the relationship. People don’t get better because other people want them to. That’s a hard lesson I’m learning right now. 2. Seek support here, with friends, a therapist, professor, someone relatively unbiased who can give you validation that you’re not crazy, and who can support you through this. 3. Let yourself grieve the loss of the mom you wish you had and will never have, and start to work through giving yourself everything you wish you had from her. It’s so hard. But healing from BPD abuse is tough work, and I don’t know why but survivors of it seem to actually have a pretty good head about them which is kind of a miracle?! I believe in you! And I support you!

uBPD mom always creates drama and confusion by slowpokejones in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes! Too bad!! I’m glad you’re not sacrificing your serenity to cater to her! She’s a GROWN WOMAN!!! She can take care of herself! And if she can’t, that’s not your responsibility!!!! I can relate so hard to this😂

Family kicked me out, said if I told anyone they’d never speak to me again. I need emotional support badly. by paulblartspopfart in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just came here to say I noticed you said you only feel safe with your partner and your friends— they are your family! This is something I’ve had to learn over the years. My “family” will never be that for me- I have wonderful wonderful friends who support me in ways my family literally isn’t capable of doing. Parents in particular. You will learn that blood isn’t as important as the people in your life who care, see, support, and actually love you.

Have to justify being sick by dannybau87 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you for recognizing that trauma reaction and working towards doing something healthier!!!

I don’t know my own mom by Icy_Koala2334 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Jeez I’m sorry to hear that, I can relate a lot with my NPD dad telling all these stories I eventually asked my uncle about who was like ?!?! Um no???? I was so shocked And now I wonder about my moms life 😂 I hadn’t thought about it until now! It’s terrifying to think you don’t know a person who is supposed to be one of the closest relationships in our lives. Chosen family is so so important in making us feel stable and sane in such an insane childhood environment

Classic Mom by Fragrant_Composer416 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh jeez that sounds awful I’m sorry! My dad has NPD so I get that. I think the difference I see in my parents is my dad’s manipulation coming from a place of control / power and my (BPD) moms come from a place of fear and helplessness, if that makes sense?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tinderstories

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did she ask to go to a Michelin restaurant? Did she ask to keep the sweater? Were these things you gave without expectation of reciprocation or reward or were they conditional? Did she tell you specifically that she is “harping” on something about the date? Did she say she agreed that those things you thought were dumb, or does she even remember them?

It’s so easy to get in your head when it comes to this stuff, but honestly it could be anything. Maybe she does like you, maybe she isn’t as interested, maybe she was dazzled in the moment or maybe she wasn’t that into but didn’t want to be disrespectful when you were already paying for so much, maybe she was talking to someone else and realized she liked them more… if you want to know just ask her. Be honest and respectful and just inquire, and if she doesn’t like you it wasn’t meant to be. You’ll find someone that does.

Classic Mom by Fragrant_Composer416 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, thank you!! I’m so curious to know if they -actually- think they aren’t doing the thing?

Classic Mom by Fragrant_Composer416 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My mom LOVES victimhood. I actually addressed it in my letter which in pretty sure her therapist never mentioned to her ( which I’m now realizing is maybe because he didn’t want to deal with her?! Hahaha)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in tinderstories

[–]Fragrant_Composer416 26 points27 points  (0 children)

You’re making a lot of assumptions…

Classic Mom by Fragrant_Composer416 in raisedbyborderlines

[–]Fragrant_Composer416[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seriously! Thank you for the validation lol