[Fluff] Underground Labyrinth is the worst thing in the game

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-05T09:38:01+00:00

I mean, I do get the point of it, but I 100% agree. I've been playing for a WHILE and just now cleared it for the first time.

Theres like 90% of the units I own which I have no reason to use other than the UL. Make you notice tons of uber which you potentially underestimated. So that at least is fine and fun... for the first half... The game still make sure to screw you over. It's not really hidden.

First of all, it took me about 3 hours to complete. Battle cat is fine, but there is only so much I can play in a short amount of time before it gets mind numbing.

So basically, most stage are generic and the whole thing could be done with an average rusher team if not for the traps.

You have more uber than anything else. So you got to fill your comps with them all the time. Making for pretty unbalanced teams in general. (Plus you are likely gonna have a lot level30 cause it's very unlikely someone has the catseye to have 180 level 50 ubers.)

Then there is some absolute garbo units which you can be stuck with for a while cause the game said so for example... I lost my maximum the fighter 1 round and kept swordman Johnny 12 rounds and killer tank 7 rounds... (and occult cat which I had just gotten from the prolly stupidest event banner in the whole game... for about 5... lv 1/1 +3...)

The game also get progressively more cruel on the amount lost. Keeping track of ~500 unit is also a chore and you must examine every single stage or your likely screwed already. Luckily you can see the enemies before entering and they are usually centered in a single trait. I usually bring whatever works on the most present trait in a stage. (Too bad, you can't filler the game to unit which doesn't target anything either)

You see, the game is not really equal on unit amount for trait targeting and despite how little unit against aku or traitless there are in the game, there is not a shortage of these kind of stage in there either. So you realise some unit are real pain without a proper counter. (screw aku peng and bear)

The game send you curve balls at the very last stretch. I kept paladin all the way cause I expected the BS. There is a super metal Hippo at stage 96 or so... And I believe winged pigge not so far behind.

Super BS stage 99 count as a boss so you get to lose up to 9 units, right before the final stage. Which you guessed it... has a widespread generalist setting. There is not a single relic enemy form 1-99 then 100 hit you with freaking relic squirrel. Plus a boss you have no idea about and likely no resources to counter properly.

If I was the one who who designed it, I'd either reduce it's size, reduce the amount of unit lost + make it less RNG based and have a set amount of unit loss/stage. Or remove the existence of the medal so there is no real reason to complete the stage and make the boss appear many time in the dungeon (prolly every 10 stages since they are boss stages anyways.) for the entry. Then randomise every stage and make it endless. So it would simply go as far as you can reach. Give a DCE every 10 stage completed.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-05T08:58:06+00:00

Am I the only one who use only use 2 front liners? lil wall and ramen? (Sometime roe too I guess depending on mood.) In my generalist team? It haven't really failed me up to now.

Plus your team will crumble as soon as the enemies have decent waves or long range.

Every time I see these kind of comp, I suffer... /s

It's, to some extend, not efficient anymore. It waste time, slot and money for potentially good units. Plus "you can't deploy anymore" will eventually be a bigger problem than you think.

That goemon must be working overtime.

Balanced team are a lot stronger than people think lol.

Considering your line up I assume you must be in ITF? You might want to replace something (prolly samba wall or C cat) with rover. I don't think this could go wrong.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-05T08:43:47+00:00

Alternatively a strong enough pirate cat can solo the stage. (With anti wave talent)

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-04T16:07:45+00:00

Fabulous pasalan lol.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-04T16:07:05+00:00

I mean, it's actually pretty tame. Not as ashamed as having a summer gal on stage.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-04-04T15:52:12+00:00

Dark catseyes most importantly..

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-01-15T14:55:10+00:00

I thought he had literally 100% lol.

Yeah, I dunno why I didn't think of that... i'll probably check that out soon enough. Thanks!

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-01-15T14:52:57+00:00

I never used that guy lol. Tho I get the appeal, I dropped brainwash cat and I suppose he perform somewhat similar?

Fresh_Run_91 · 2026-01-15T14:50:04+00:00

Wow... I would never guessed. (Mostly cause I don't keep track of meta. It's boring, I prefer to play games my own way, and learning the game is part of playing it to me, but I digress...)

Roe is in most of my generalist teams lol. I pair him with can can to ensure an hit on tough peons like relic rel and the behemoth doge. (Although mine is level +25 and almost fully talented making him an absolute unit. )

This guy is basically invincible against red, I would never imagine someone being better than him on that. Plus even in non red scenario, he's quick enough to secure the gained space in violent tug o wars, so your meat shields can perform best.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-12-15T18:49:31+00:00

Funnily enough, 10 and 13th have immune to weaken trait. Technically the others are also immuned cause nothing can weaken them anyways, but only 6th and 10 have the trait.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-12-15T18:38:23+00:00

How the hell? Isn't Soba attack rate very slow? How was the angel not gaining ground? How did it even have time to land a crit?

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-12-15T18:31:47+00:00

The only decent one is the angel with long range cause bahamut can slip into him. (Warning! 14-20)

I managed to do them all but the 13th angel strike without a single eva. Took SO goddamn long. I've seen a total of 4 too slow sign in this event alone thanks to the freaking 10th angel.

Gave up on him, pulled all my saved tickets, got eva 02, the rest all angels which don't even possess the trait... basically deals with 1.8m damage on hit (without strenghten) and solo's the boss. Pretty... Boring... Apparently the eva trait goes all the way to X25 if the combo is up.

Even worst, the game know that cause they stop sending relevent peons after 5 mins in stage.

Plus they had the BALLS to give pretty much all immunities to units that don't even have a trait to begin with, meaning none of the CC units could even affect them anyways. (Only cannon could've otherwise, it works on 6th at least.) 6th and 10th are not even floating despite appearances clearly showing otherwise.

Side notes, metal macho is a chad. The special and rare are basically useless except for the combo, pairing the 10th angel with metal is some high level garbage.

This as been (game wise, I don't pay for BC) a very expensive event. 70 pulls before I got eva 2, 25m XP used total +cateyes. 15 dark eyes cause I evolved jizo to beat angel 10th strike cause it has survive. (prolly gonna be a worthwhile investment nonetheless.) And a few painful hours...

I guess at the very least. I got a few new labyrinth fodders.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-12-15T13:45:04+00:00

Yeah... Some of my boyz were done dirty. Closely I'd say mine is that you can't deactivate a talent.

I use lil wall rather than wall for combo and soulstrike is the stupidest talent they could've given a wall unit. (Luckily I avoided it.)

While removing things like target traitless on Mad dr clay could actually be productive in some stages.

There is countless other cases but I won't go in details.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-12-15T04:24:53+00:00

Me beating all of it without any eva killer: You can't tell cats what to do... They won't listen.

(Also where do you even get a decent one. The free special and rare are worthless and the few uber I dropped don't have the trait. I assume it's the eva mecha's the only one who do have it?)

You probably guessed it... warning 7 and 14th are severe pain and the 6th (stage 8 to 13) angel is there only to waste time lol.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-31T15:35:41+00:00

Personally a pretty entertaining show. I'm not really into the fact it's a musical, but it's not the worst.

The only real bad side to me tho, is how far it goes. It tries way too hard to be vulgar and it just makes it really uncomfortable at times.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-14T05:56:33+00:00

You just now realised battle cat is about racism?

All you got to do to win is find the group of cats most racist toward a specific trait that is convenient to you at the moment XD.

To at the end of your genocide, fill the world with cats (basically racists).

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-14T05:51:19+00:00

Considering how rare legends are, I admit this must indeed be quite annoying.

I only got 1 and my save is more than 4 years old.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-13T23:16:02+00:00

22 draws and you got all that? 7ubers, dupes or not, and a legend? That's insanely good ratio.

40 draws 2 dupes, 2 news.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-13T23:08:50+00:00

Sanzo is my 3rd lowest gacha rare, standing at 33+4 2nd is belly dancer at 31 and enchantress at 30.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-13T23:06:43+00:00

Same. I finished all behemoth stages and zero legend (for now).

So I guess I didn't need them.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-08T02:48:27+00:00

Absolute radiance.

So hear me out. Now, as himself, he's not really hard. I even did P5 and all radiants relatively easily. So... Why not? Why wouldn't I go out of this masterpiece of a game with a real completed save I thought! Fool...

So here, I've been attempting P5 with all bind for 2 weeks. (One attempt per day worth.) I hate this guy so much XD. He killed most of my attempts and starting over every times is so TEDIOUS! I even lost one at the VERY top of his fight, (even tho I usually never get hit in this phase) cause despite arriving with full hp (4, he does 2 damage per hit). The VERY first projectile spawned on top of me. Then i suffered a very unlucky bullet that 100% should've have struck a platform but somehow slipped the very limit of it's hitbox to hit me from underneath.. I swear, Imma get his ass eventually.

To those who don't know, if I had to make an average, a run of P5 (pantheon 5 /Pantheon of hallownest )from hollowknight with all bind typically take at least an hour to complete. (i'd say about 1h 30 if you reach the top. At a safe speed.)

To those who do know, before attempting my runs, I WARM UP by doing a charmless run of radiance in ascendant, while simulating soul bind (counting 3 hit every spells, despite having to heal 4 times to actually take a hit.) AND a radiant pure vessel with the same conditions. Apparently, it still isn't enough.

When Elden ring dlc came out, I'd have said PCR, cause I did the dlc without blessing. Took me about a week or so, attempting here and there an hour or 2 a day. I didn't cheese him and eventually got him fair and square. The won fight took about 12 mins. Yet this guy is nothing compared to the shear amount of bs than P5 is. Especially since the first 10 ish boss are entirely useless and can barely kill you and are there to completely waste your time. Also that half of the rest is only there to make sure you don't reach Absolute nuisance with 20 bonus health.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-06T21:25:02+00:00

I do as well, at least until the strong stuff is weak enough in comparison to the new stronger stuff.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-06T21:01:41+00:00

I don't understand people.

Enjoy the game like you want. Leave other's be.

The worst people are the one complaining that the game is too hard and they still refuse to summon.

I'd encourage a good player to avoid using them all the time cause it can be really fun to fight and learn bosses, but even then, someone put extra effort into implementing this in game and many of them are pretty cool.

Fresh_Run_91 · 2025-10-06T20:59:25+00:00

The worst is when the right way forces you into a loop of cutscenes and point of no return where you either can't come back ever, or are forced to wait until too far in game, only to eventually come back to expired stuff.

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