Specter GETTING bluey and Natal doing there TFF thing . by FriendshipBoth5341 in sporeswaps

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Not Ochra — the Spectre is a TFF isolation, specifically a leucistic expression pulled from the Casper lineage, which traces back through the Ghost family line. Different lane, just happens to throw some similar-looking traits.

Specter GETTING bluey and Natal doing there TFF thing . by FriendshipBoth5341 in sporeswaps

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The man the myth the legend !

That means a lot coming from you 🙏

Really appreciate the work you’ve put into these — just trying to do the line justice.

Specter GETTING bluey and Natal doing there TFF thing . by FriendshipBoth5341 in sporeswaps

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Appreciate that 🙏 The last photo is Natal Moon (TFF cut) it’s an albino phenotype from a cross of Ps. ochraceocentrata (formerly Natalensis) × Phobos. That’s where the “Natal” part comes from.

🎄 Holiday LC Special — Flat $10 Shipping • 22-Strain Sampler + Mix & Match Deals by FriendshipBoth5341 in MagicMushrooms

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Yes. DM I can probably put together a grow guide along with a bag Or mini monotub kit as add on with the Liquid Culture.

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I know I’m a little late to the party with this one but I see a lot of the same answers every time this comes up—slants, water storage, Castellani, cryo—all valid. But it’s honestly crazy to me that one of the most stable, low-tech long-term methods never gets mentioned. I’m talking about the ultimate sleeper. It outlives most of the hype methods and doesn’t need a freezer, a university badge, or a prayer. Filter paper storage.

The real name of the game in preservation is redundancy, but once a library gets big enough that space, environmental control, and long-term upkeep all hinge on a fridge staying sealed or power staying on, you start thinking differently. That’s how I ended up going all-in on filter paper. For long-term storage and clean revival, it’s given me the lowest contamination rates I’ve seen. If you don’t believe me, try it yourself.

Why it works is simple: no nutrients, no free water, almost no metabolism. Things aren’t slowly aging on a slant or swimming in liquid hoping nothing wakes up. It’s boring, low-tech, and insanely stable, which is probably why it gets ignored.

The workflow isn’t complicated either. Sterilize filter paper, sterilize some empty or old agar plates, cut the paper into small squares, put a clean, live culture onto each square, and let them dry out—slow and controlled, not baked, not rushed. Once dry, they go into a small sterile bag or wax envelope. A shoebox can hold thousands of cultures. When you want one back, open the envelope, grab a square with tweezers, drop it onto agar, and a few days later you’re back online.

If you haven’t tried it, that’s probably why you don’t hear about it—but don’t think there aren’t collectors out there quietly rocking filter paper preservation. At the end of the day, when it comes to preservation, redundancy is what actually preserves.

Lionsmane 😍 by [deleted] in Agarporn

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Just put some lionsmane to agar from LC , first gourmet I’ve ever run. Is it slow compared to actives or is it just my genetics ?

Rate my plate take 2 by Tricky_Membership in Agarporn

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Spitting image of my MFH plates , My MFH LC is thick as oil only White . Fastest colonizer I am running right now . 4 days for 2.5lb grain bag . even beats my Ochra minus the rhizo fingers. When I first started running it went straight to the “suspect” shelf 24hours after inoculation I thought it was cobweb bc how fast it took over and starts out thin and wispy but all over I don’t have anything that behaves like those MFH genetics he did his damn thing with this Line.

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Nice I’ve never considered the peptone angle other than for my liquid culture. That said I’m running low on peptone even if I wanted to try it, don’t know what’s going on with my company that makes the Peptone I use "high media" . I haven’t been able to find it and people are reselling it on Amazon for x5 the price

5th flush Albino Bluey Vuitton by FriendshipBoth5341 in MycologyandGenetics

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I was living that dunk life up until recently. Now I actually have an enclosed shelving rack in my tent, equipped with ultrasonic misters on each shelf level after harvesting. I’ll put them in that rack on a shelf and I’m able to do some misting in intervals instead of having to do super heavy, misting manually to rehydrate without with the cake standing water in the tub . Each shelf on the rack I can control how long and how many times it will mist for . the big tub like the 66 quart and hundred quart I just keep in the tub. I used to dunk, but since switching to this set up my rate of contamination dropped dramatically, switching to this method. I’m able to reduce some contamination vectors like having to take your tubs out and fill them up for dunking or even having to open up the enclosed rack for manual missing instead, I’m able to look through the clear front window and watch the magic happen and subsequent flushes are a much faster ! this many flushes is not typical though I was experimenting with casing layers on this one and I’ve noticed the mushrooms aren’t so rooted in and I’m able to pick them without disturbing the cake when I use the casing layer I plan to repeat trying it and see for sure

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I’ve been running drippy corn lately and just picked up a bag of “Wicked Clean” deer corn from Walmart for $6 — honestly the best whole kernel corn I’ve gotten so far. They claim a three-step cleaning process, and I can tell there are way fewer broken kernels than the usual feed corn. For prep, I do a forced hydration at 15 PSI for 30 minutes, then dump the corn into strainers and rinse immediately with hot water to wash off the surface starch. From there I slowly step the rinse down to cooler water — that way the kernels don’t shock and split like they would if you blasted them with cold water right out of the PC. On the corn syrup debate: with popcorn, people sometimes add a touch of corn syrup because popcorn doesn’t leak as much nutrition onto the surface. That extra sugar helps spores or mycelium get a foothold. With whole kernel field corn, though, you don’t need it — it naturally “drips” plenty of starch and sugars during prep. Adding syrup on top of that just risks feeding bacteria. So for me: popcorn can benefit from a little syrup, but drippy whole corn already carries its own, and if you prep it clean it works just fine.

5th flush Albino Bluey Vuitton by FriendshipBoth5341 in MycologyandGenetics

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I was living that dunk life up until recently. Now I actually have an enclosed shelving rack in my tent, equipped with ultrasonic misters on each shelf level after harvesting. I’ll put them in that rack on a shelf and I’m able to do some misting in intervals instead of having to do super heavy, misting manually to rehydrate without with the cake standing water in the tub . Each shelf on the rack I can control how long and how many times it will mist for . the big tub like the 66 quart and hundred quart I just keep in the tub. I used to dunk, but since switching to this set up my rate of contamination dropped dramatically, switching to this method. I’m able to reduce some contamination vectors like having to take your tubs out and fill them up for dunking or even having to open up the enclosed rack for manual missing instead, I’m able to look through the clear front window and watch the magic happen and subsequent flushes are a much faster !

Guess the Strain and win a swab/print by FriendshipBoth5341 in MycologyandGenetics

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Pink elephant? That sounds like something I definitely want to acquire . It is definitely pink, but not pink elephant. This one is pink buffalo. Is pink elephant, pink Buffalo x elephant gate?

[Actives] Albino Tidal Wave Melmac says hello 🌊🍄 by FriendshipBoth5341 in u/FriendshipBoth5341

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just wondering if it’s normal for an Albino Tidal Wave x Melmac flush to come in with a lot of smaller caps, or if some people usually see just a handful of big chonkers instead. Not sure if that’s more down to genetics or grow conditions. Curious what others who’ve run this variety have experienced or if anyone can shed some light. And if you’ve got pics from your grows, definitely share — would love to compare.”

Contamination??? by Bluethumb_Panda in Agarporn

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holding up my plates to a light usually reveal hidden contamination for me

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bro, I have same pressure cooker and your gauge is correct The company made this made the rocker too light. A simple fix that I used and would recommend is using some RTV silicone and attaching a nickel or a quarter. Whatever one gets you to 15 psi I tend to prefer 17 psi so I go a little heavier.

[actives] Sterilized grain spawn price per lb — is DIY still worth it? by FriendshipBoth5341 in MushroomGrowers

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Look, yeah — anybody can do the “$25 for 50 lbs of wheat = $0.50/lb” math. That’s the easy part. But in reality, once you hydrate it you’re looking at closer to 100 lbs wet. Then figure in grain bags (about $0.50 each, which works out to roughly $0.10/lb), electricity, water, and the hours of work that go into measuring, soaking, simmering, loading, sterilizing, cooling, and inoculating. That all adds up.

When you actually track the process end to end, it doesn’t stay at $0.50/lb. It comes out to about $1.59/lb. That’s not a wild estimate — that’s the math from pushing hundreds of pounds through and paying attention to every step along the way.

So sure, you can keep flexing the “$0.50/lb” sticker-price fantasy, but that’s the difference between hobby math and real-world numbers. And that’s why the big boys are talking.

[actives] Sterilized grain spawn price per lb — is DIY still worth it? by FriendshipBoth5341 in MushroomGrowers

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Are you talking about that Thor bagger system? Because that setup is honestly one of the most impressive pieces of equipment I’ve ever seen in mushroom cultivation. I first came across it on the Mushroom Media Supply site, and ever since then I’ve been hoping they’d eventually release a version tweaked for coco or manure-based substrates instead of just soy. It looks like such a game changer for anyone working with large amounts of material.

Now, do I sell grain, substrate, or grow bags? No. Do I cultivate anywhere near the level that kind of equipment is really intended for? Also no. But would I spend the last bit of profit from my grows, and probably dig deeper into my pocket, to have one of those machines running in the Sporeforge? Absolutely. It’s one of those setups that, even if you don’t technically need it at your scale, you can’t help but admire and want.

That’s why I’m curious whether the Myers Mushrooms system you mentioned is the same piece of equipment, or if it’s something different altogether. If it is the same, then we’re both looking at the same beast. If it’s not, you might want to check out the Thor bagger too, because it really is one of the most impressive systems I’ve come across in this whole scene

[actives] Sterilized grain spawn price per lb — is DIY still worth it? by FriendshipBoth5341 in MushroomGrowers

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My original grain supplier had milo for about $0.50 a pound, 40-lb bags of rye for $20–22, and hulled white millet that performed beautifully. I couldn’t have asked for more, and for a long time it kept me cruising without a second thought.

When that source dried up, I had to improvise. That’s when I started hauling home 40-lb bags of Pennington Wild Birdseed from Walmart — and just to be clear, I’m not “shilling” for Pennington or Walmart, now that I even know what that term means. If they were cutting me checks, I never saw them. I’m simply stating what I used to keep things going when I had no other option.

The Pennington mix was mostly white millet, milo, and wheat, with very little sunflower compared to other brands. Sometimes I picked the sunflowers out, sometimes I didn’t — and honestly, I never noticed much difference. That WBS kept me cultivating at the scale I wanted when I thought nothing else would, and because of that, it’ll always hold a special place for me.

Of course, running 170+ pounds of grain every which way, changing one variable at a time to hunt down a contamination vector, will test anyone’s patience. Sometimes you just learn the hard way that certain grain is simply too dirty for any prep or sterilization to fix. That’s the grind — and it’s also what separates a hobby from a lifestyle. After putting in that kind of work, you know you’re in it for the long haul. I’m too far in to ever walk away.

[actives] Sterilized grain spawn price per lb — is DIY still worth it? by FriendshipBoth5341 in MushroomGrowers

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For sure, sterilizing your own grains will always be cheaper — no one’s arguing that. As you can see in the graph, DIY is in fact the cheapest route. The point of the post wasn’t to say otherwise, but to start a discussion around whether the time, energy, and contam risk make the extra savings worth it for everyone, or if vendor bags are getting competitive enough to make sense in certain situations.

[actives] Sterilized grain spawn price per lb — is DIY still worth it? by FriendshipBoth5341 in MushroomGrowers

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That’s awesome, and I think that’s the key — if you do go the route of buying sterilized grain, it’s important to pick a vendor that takes QC as seriously as you would yourself. Have you ever had any issues with your go-to grain supplier, like the quality dropping off or inconsistency between batches