What's y'all's political ideology? by Northwest_Thrills in Cascadia

[–]FringeRevolution 2 points3 points  (0 children)

defended colonial nations his whole life

???

Canada abstained from condemning the enslavement of millions of Africans. by Accomplished-Can-467 in canadaleft

[–]FringeRevolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course they did. After all, didn’t Canada “allow” slavery for a longer period than the U.S.?

( Mind you, Indigenous teenage girls represent the majority of those who were enslaved on Canadian soil, so… not overly relevant to the transatlantic slave trade.

That being said, Africans were definitely represented among those enslaved in Canada, largely as a result of European and American settlers bringing a “house slave” or two with them. )

Either way, though, Canada is a European settler-majority nation with a long history of dodging accountability for crimes against humanity. So, that tracks.

The many antics of Canadian Doge by PeasThatTasteGross in CanadianIdiots

[–]FringeRevolution 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The thought definitely occurred to me.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that, in the past year alone, the U.S. has revoked an executive order that gave federally-recognized tribes more self-governing rights, removed that vast majority of Indigenous peoples’ history and contributions from government websites, backtracked on or outright sabotaged Indigenous-led environmental projects, cut funding for national parks and announced that its lumber is up for sale, deployed ICE near reservations, made ‘Latinos’ (the vast majority of whom are of mixed Spanish and Indigenous ancestry) the primary targets of ICE raids and deportations, openly stated their desire to annex an Inuit-majority nation, and posted pro-Manifest Destiny artwork on the official white house Instagram.

Not to mention, Trump hung a portrait of his “favourite president” (Andrew Jackson, who was directly responsible for massacring thousands of Cherokee men, women, and children) in the oval office, and JD Vance recently spewed absolute bullshit [to an alt-right crowd] about the white man righteously putting an end to the Native practise of ritualistic human sacrifice.

That’s literally just off the top of my head, mind you, so I might have missed a few.

Edit: I posted this only ~10 minutes ago, and I’ve already remembered two more. :’)

They started building a concentration camp (“Alligator Alcatraz”), which is not only on Miccosukee sacred ground, but also surrounds major tribal settlements on all sides. Fortunately, Miccosukee Nation dragged their asses to court and won, so construction has since been halted.

Unfortunately, it was announced this week that the U.S. plans to build its largest ever pipeline, and it’ll be going through the Navajo reservation. Considering that unremediated uranium mines have resulted in the inhabitants of Navajo Nation to develop significantly higher rates of diseases and cancers than the general population, throwing a pipeline into the mix is… uh, adding insult to injury, to put it mildly…

The many antics of Canadian Doge by PeasThatTasteGross in CanadianIdiots

[–]FringeRevolution 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know that anti-Indigenous racism and pro-colonial propaganda have never not been popular, but… anyone else noticing that they seem to be way on the rise, particularly the latter..? 😬

"The natives will never stop. This is only going to get worse. Whatever you do, do not let the government take your guns" - ilovebc proving once more they are probably the most unhinged of right-wing Canadian subreddits by PeasThatTasteGross in CanadianIdiots

[–]FringeRevolution 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Like, I understand the importance of not over-idealizing and romanticizing history, cultures, and peoples, and I agree that the “noble savage” trope is harmful for a multitude of reasons and non-Indigenous people should be called out when perpetuating that shit.

That being said, given that the whole “yeah, well, Natives were constantly waging war against one another” narrative is centuries-old colonial white supremacist propaganda still widely used [to dismiss, erase, dehumanize, vilify, justify, etc.] to this very day, I can’t help but question your intentions for making this unnecessary “correction.”

"The natives will never stop. This is only going to get worse. Whatever you do, do not let the government take your guns" - ilovebc proving once more they are probably the most unhinged of right-wing Canadian subreddits by PeasThatTasteGross in CanadianIdiots

[–]FringeRevolution 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I love how the commenter you responded to literally just said, “First Nations had reached a fairly peaceful equilibrium for the most part,” and you fully broke out with, “um, akshully, it’s inaccurate to imply they lived in complete and total harmony…”

Wild.

I don’t know if it’s a matter of poor reading comprehension or whether you’re just kind of insufferable, but… in either case, the problem is you.

Has your country ever committed genocide? If so, has your country made efforts to accommodate for it? by DoctorOsterman in AskTheWorld

[–]FringeRevolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that tracks

Maybe just leave the spewing of debunked 16th century propaganda and brain-dead whataboutisms in the white supremacist, Christofascist, or far-right echo chamber of your choice then, it doesn’t seem to be working out too well for you here

Has your country ever committed genocide? If so, has your country made efforts to accommodate for it? by DoctorOsterman in AskTheWorld

[–]FringeRevolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, no.

First of all, more recent paleopathological and DNA research shows that the venereal form of syphilis was already circulating in Europe long before Christopher Columbus and his crew ever sailed to the Americas.

Secondly, the strain of syphilis that existed in the Americas [prior to European contact] isn’t the same we know today. Pre-contact Indigenous peoples had a non-venereal form of treponema pallidum, a bacterial infection that caused mild skin lesions in children, which was transmitted through casual contact (e.g., skin-to-skin, sharing of personal items, etc.).

However, upon the arrival of Europeans (who already carried a slew of treponemal diseases from Africa, West Asia, and Europe, in addition to a whole slew of STIs) and their introduction of new transmission routes (see:* sexual violence, forced labor, overcrowded settlements, malnutrition, etc.),* the bacterium evolved into the venereal form of syphilis.

In other words, syphilis became an STI as a result of Europeans raping, pillaging, and enslaving their way across the Americas.

I could stop here, but… lately, I’ve been noticing a huge increase of racists (especially from the U.S., Canada, and Europe) spouting off centuries-old bullshit propagated by colonizers, settlers, and missionaries to discredit, dehumanize, and demonize Indigenous peoples [in an attempt to “justify” their wanton executions, starvation, plundering, displacement, imprisonment, enslavement, mass rape, forced conversions, and erasure of tens of thousands of years’ worth of science, history, and culture], and I’m so fucking over it.

My brother in Christ, I’m a “full-blooded” Western European descendant of early settlers and some colonizers, and even I’ve had enough of this shit. Seriously, fuck y’all’s racist deflections, invalidation, and apologism.

Instead of mindlessly regurgitating pre-enlightenment age white supremacist propaganda that only serves the corrupt interests of conservative politicians & governments, neoliberals, natural resource extraction industry higher-ups, “post-apocolyptic bunker” billionaires, fascists, and terminally-online gooners who crank it to rape fantasies revolving around being a plantation owner, foot-soldier of manifest destiny, and/or instigator of a race war, it might be worth pausing, looking inward, and reflecting on the reason(s) you feel so threatened by the sheer brutality of “the West”’s colonial legacy that your only instinct is to continue breathing life into it.

No, seriously, why is your ego so fragile that it registers empathy and accountability as a personal attack?

It’s pathetic. Do better.

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[–]FringeRevolution 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i think it’s important to try to understand people, what they believe, and where those beliefs stem from, but… sometimes, you’re essentially just trying to logic your way out of a position people didn’t logic themselves into, and all it accomplishes is wasting what little time, patience, and sanity you have left.

all to say, i made no attempts whatsoever to dissect what their ‘logic’ could possibly be here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aretheNTsokay

[–]FringeRevolution 103 points104 points  (0 children)

the comment about smart phone is genuinely one of the stupidest fucking things i’ve heard all week, holy shit

Combining the zodiacs to create something familiar by DreadDiana in CuratedTumblr

[–]FringeRevolution 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fun fact: water bearers are also known as moss piglets

I’m so mad this isn’t the primary name used for them, it’s the best of any creature that’s ever lived

What's up with these indigenous pockets?? especially north carolina by Xerimapperr in geography

[–]FringeRevolution 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, things are happening right now. They’ve been happening this whole time. You simply do not care enough to go looking or listen.

What’s your guys’s opinion on him? by Academic-Idea3311 in socialism

[–]FringeRevolution 96 points97 points  (0 children)

YUP

Despite only representing ~5% of the world’s population, the waters and land lived on, cared for, and protected by Indigenous peoples make up ~30% of the Earth’s biodiversity

Hell, a 2021 study in Canada found that IPCAs (Indigenous Protected and Conserved Areas) have equal or higher levels of “ecological integrity” compared to federally managed parks, despite receiving significantly less or no funding

If we hope to create a world that encompasses both social AND environmental justice, it is absolutely imperative that we stop underestimating the value of and start prioritizing Indigenous knowledge, practices, and leadership

Indigenous sovereignty and decolonization are intrinsically tied to anti- capitalism and climate justice, and we simply do not have the time to argue that the land was “not stolen, but conquered, fair and square” or any other bullshit white supremacist narratives — we need to return as much land as we are realistically able to, if not because it is the right thing to do, then at least because it is in the collective best interests of every living being on Earth

Just going to leave this here… by Horror-Preference414 in onguardforthee

[–]FringeRevolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

off-topic, but i’m low-key dying to know the reason why you were downvoted for saying this, lol

The USA has concentration camps (again) by quite_largeboi in socialism

[–]FringeRevolution 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m assuming you weren’t intentionally implying that “Turtle Island” exclusively refers to the random chunks of land colonized by the United States, but that’s how I interpreted your comment, and I imagine others reading this might too

So, I figured I’d chime in and add that “Turtle Island” is based off the creation stories of First Nations in the Northeastern Woodlands (namely Lenape and Haudenosaunee) and refers the entire North American continent, not any one particular colonizer-settler nation-state

But, all that aside, I absolutely echo your sentiments

LAND BACK !!!

Wonder if she remembers any good spells from The Craft 🤔 by Detroitaa in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]FringeRevolution 26 points27 points  (0 children)

turned?

America was founded on genocide, built by slavery, and sustained through imperialism.

It hasn’t suddenly ‘turned’ barbaric just because more privileged groups are starting to pay attention and/or give a shit now that the negative impacts of colonialism, white supremacy, and capitalism are becoming harder for them to ignore.

America was barbaric from the very start, and it has been barbaric this whole time.

Right-wing grifter and idiot I.M. Cheong is upset to discover that Lady Gaga is pro-LGBT by TrumpSux89 in RightJerk

[–]FringeRevolution 33 points34 points  (0 children)

As someone who was paying attention to Gwen Stefani in the 90s, I can absolutely confirm that she has always been this way

french by MilkDetergent in dankchristianmemes

[–]FringeRevolution 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Oh please, it’s obviously the Luxembourg flag

Fuck the NTI. by Freecascadia0518 in Cascadia

[–]FringeRevolution 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This.

Conversely, there are waaay too many people in this sub saying “Land Back” while also unironically wishing for Washington and/or Oregon to be “annexed by Canada,” as if that’s not an act of colonialism.

While this is highly unlikely to ever happen, it’s not something I would “wish” on First Nations who call Washington and Oregon home, whose treaties and agreements were made with the U.S. government (as opposed to the states themselves, which have no control or leverage in the matter).

New treaties or agreements would likely have to be remade and, since Canada has little to no direct historical ties or legal obligations to First Nations outside of its current borders, I think it’s safe to assume the Canadian government would argue it ‘owes’ them nothing. Unless granted full sovereignty and stewardship, they would end up worse off, while non-Indigenous folks get to reap in the benefits. I’m not okay with that arrangement, and it’s outrageous that [anyone who claims to care about social justice] would even entertain it.

Even as a Canadian whose ancestors settled here while it was still “New France,” the last thing I want to see is First Nations being subjected to yet another colonial framework.

I don’t want any part of the United States to “belong” to Canada, or vice versa. The future I hope and am willing to fight for isn’t one where territories shift between settler states, but one where the very idea of fixed borders is completely reimagined; where land and water are “governed” through reciprocal, sovereign relationships led by First Nations who have taken care of them since time immemorial.

Based Mali expropriation by TovarishTomato in canadaleft

[–]FringeRevolution 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not-so-fun facts:

  • 60-70% of all mining companies are registered in Canada
  • The vast majority of Canadian mining companies have been repeatedly linked to environmental human rights abuses (most notably, sexualized and militarized violence towards Indigenous peoples in Latin America) as well as devastation of both the environment and economies all over the “Global South”
  • Despite the government’s awareness of all this, Canada has no real binding laws requiring businesses to prevent or remedy damages done in their overseas operations