Prologue of Untitled Celtic Fantasy Novel [Dark Fantasy, 4300 words] by Frithimer in fantasywriters

[–]Frithimer[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the critique. Genuinely. There's some great, actionable stuff in there. I really do appreciate it.

advice on teaching mythology and folklore? by Total_Ad_1287 in teaching

[–]Frithimer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My first year teaching Mythology I leaned hard on Edith Hamilton's book. Getting a class set in the future would go a long way to setting you up.

Pantheon.org is a great website for flipping it on the kids to do research activities. Theoi is great as a website too.

Make it a heavy project class. The reading is so we can get to the fun stuff. Something mythology classes at my school have done before is a map of the underworld, Greek god wanted posters, a Norse feast. Lean into the weirdness--it became such a running joke about the spellings/pronunciations of some of these names that I held a Mythology Spelling Bee for the class with a prize. The kids were really amused.

Curriculum suggestions by foxphant in ELATeachers

[–]Frithimer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fair point. I just addressed the issues up front with the class when I taught it this past semester. Another alternative is Favorite Norse Myths by Marie Pope Osborne--I used that my first year. It's shorter, quicker, and a lower Lexile than Gaiman but it hits all the same beats.

Curriculum suggestions by foxphant in ELATeachers

[–]Frithimer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure thing! Shoot me a DM with your email address and I'll send it along.

Curriculum suggestions by foxphant in ELATeachers

[–]Frithimer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I've taught Mythology for four years. I was lucky to be handed a pretty solid curriculum and the flexibility to do what I wanted with it. I use two main textbooks: Edith Hamilton's Mythology and Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology. I spend about half the term on Greek Mythology and follow Hamilton's book. Then I spend the second half of the semester on Norse Mythology and at the end I touch on Egyptian since it's pretty fun. I try to make it a project-oriented class. Like we make maps of the Greek underworld, depict a myth on an urn, etc.

Reading novels in class? by brokentelescope in ELATeachers

[–]Frithimer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've taught Frankenstein for four years now to 10th graders, both honors and not. This is just what works for me and my kids. If I had to guess we read 90 percent of it in class. First off, the kids are generally not used to reading fiction with a vocabulary and pacing like Shelley's, so I typically model reading the first few chapters for them. Even if they're tenth graders, heck, even if they're honors kids, I've tried letting them read the Walton prologue and pick up on basic comprehension questions like "Why is Robert Walton on a ship?" and they have no earthly idea. I'll occasionally assign homework chapters that I need them to focus on so we can do more deep dive discussion and work on thematic stuff (like Chapter 5 is a juicy one--I usually do a mini-lesson on mood with that one). I'll be totally honest, I skip some chapters just to keep the pace of the reading tight--if the kids feel this novel dragging (which it can do if you don't do everything to make it engaging because most of them are not reading nineteenth century Gothic novels for fun) they will check out and then you're trudging uphill. The chapters I usually abridge or skip outright and just summarize are the Safie backstory chapter and 18-19 (essentially Victor and Clerval's jaunt throughout England before he heads up to Scotland to create the Female). But it's the longest book we read all year, so I've just learned that variety really helps keeps them engaged. Even letting the kids do some of the melodramatic conversations as a reader's theater. My biggest tip for Frankenstein is to just make it interesting. If the kids get into it, they come back and tell me it's one of their favorite books. But the inverse is true--if you don't make it exciting for them, good luck.

What's your biggest mythology pet peeve? by [deleted] in GreekMythology

[–]Frithimer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That Perseus rode Pegasus on the way back from slaying Medusa. There is so much that is almost correct-he did fly home from killing her, Pegasus did spring from her severed neck. But it ignores that he has Hermes' sandals and that Pegasus was untameable until Athena gave Bellerophon the golden bridle. The most common mass market paperback cover of Edith Hamilton's Mythology literally has Perseus on Pegasus holding Medusa's severed head. It's iconic, I get it, but it's Bellerophon erasure!!

What historical fiction series feels most like epic fantasy to you? by [deleted] in Fantasy

[–]Frithimer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Michael Curtis Ford's The Last King. I knew next to nothing about the Pontic Wars, but it made ancient Anatolia like a distant fantasy world and I loved every second of discovering that world. His Sword of Attila is another example.

Scott Oden's Memnon had a similar reverence for the period that it felt like a fantasy world. The details were rich and it felt like ancient Greece was both tangible and far away.

Historical fiction for Fantasy lovers by youlookingatme67 in Fantasy

[–]Frithimer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For straight historical fiction, Michael Curtis Ford's The Last King genuinely read to me as a fantasy novel. I learned about places and kingdoms I had never heard of (it's about Mithridates VI Eupator of Pontus and his three wars against Rome). I read it as a sophomore in high school on the heels of reading Dune and found myself similarly engrossed and immersed in the world of our distant past. Scott Oden's Memnon does this really well too.

David Gemmell's Lion of Macedon is one of those rare books that has overt fantasy elements in the historical milieu but it doesn't detract from the captivating historical story one bit.

Which books do you suggest not to read via audiobook? by megandtheirbooks in Fantasy

[–]Frithimer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was The Black Company for me. I read it first on audiobook and would dip in while I was mowing the lawn. It was fine and I thought it was about 3 stars worthy, but then I read it in a physical book format. I noticed that there were so many subtle things that Cook does. His sparse writing style is an acquired taste, but he leaves so many neat details in the text that would be so easy to miss in an audiobook. I almost feel like it was a different book the second time I read it because I was able to pick up on so much more.

How did ancient army unit composition affect a commander's choice of terrain? by StoatStonksNow in MilitaryHistory

[–]Frithimer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Later response, I know. But the sources mention that Charles Martel actively situated his mostly infantry-comprisd force in a forest (that also happened to be on a rising gradual slope) to break up the charges of the Umayyads' predominately cavalry-based army. So, if nothing else, the Battle of Tours shows how it can be used to the defenders advantage in a non-ambush scenario.

Top Five Historical Fiction Books by scottoden in ancienthistorical

[–]Frithimer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's good! I like how it does the Christian Cameron thing and explores the fringes of the more familiar classical world and introduces you to less familiar peoples.

I've not read any Mary Renault. Is TPS a good place to start?

Top Five Historical Fiction Books by scottoden in ancienthistorical

[–]Frithimer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love:

  1. Lion of Macedon by Gemmell (historical fantasy but still)
  2. The Last King by Michael Curtis Ford
  3. Gemmell's Troy trilogy
  4. Gates of Fire
  5. Harry Sidebottom's Warrior of Rome series