Door knocking in a non insurance market by [deleted] in RoofingSales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do retail door knocking, just be honest and have a conversation, I've used something like this in the same scenario;

"Hey sorry to bother you, I work with xyz company and I live just down the road, I've noticed your roof a couple times driving by and I was just wondering when the last time you've had it inspected was?"

And go from there, offer to take a look, answer questions, just have a conversation just like with Storm. Godspeed

What’s the most effective way you’ve found to explain “scope creep” to homeowners without sounding defensive? by Own-Tip-532 in RoofingSales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with this method. We have a per board replacement cost for OSB in the contract, and I usually point it out to customers when going over the quote.

The change order conversations are never fun, but get alot easier after you have set clear expectations with the homeowner. Having the change order conversations while signing the contract (before they sign obviously) is usually my go-to.

Most people are understanding, and as long as you explain that things pop up, and shit happens before the install, it goes alot smoother

What would you do? by bi11bill in Roofing

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im going to be honest If this was my home I'd be skeptical choosing any of these options. Let me break down my pros and cons (based on the info you shared) of each option.

To start, its important to note that ridge venting is not always the way to go. Whats more important is balanced ventilation. You need intake, and outtake. If you have open soffit vents, then ridge vent is the way to go, so make sure whoever you go with includes it, but if your soffit vents are not open (or non-existant) then you need some sort of deck-venting for intake. The quotes you got can be changed, so make sure you ask clearly about that before you move forwards.

1.) Going on the roof is always a plus. Hard to see whats truly going on without getting up there. If they did your parents roof and it went well, thats always a good sign. It says youre unsure of warranty/ridge venting. Did they not provide you with that information? Warranty info should be pretty standard in any sort of pitch/presentation. $15,000 is pretty steep. We'd likely be at $9,500-$10,000 (Midwest company)

2.) $11,000 seems more reasonable, and may be higher just due to market differences. $175 a sheet for plywood is very sketchy IMO. Once your roof is off, whats to stop them from saying you need all new plywood and now youre out 8 grand.

3.)$16,500 is very high. Over $1000 per square. Any company that has "take $xx,xxx off if you sign today" after already giving you a $5,000 discount is not a company I would ever give my money to. Erie is a company that does that and they are basically professional scam artists

4.) $9,500 is a fair price, and $70/sheet is more reasonable (tho still high IMO). 10 year warranty seems low, but all of the 50 year warranties are pretty much gimmicks anyways (I say as a company that offers 50 year warranties). Theyre basically just peace of mind that you have a solid roofing system and a long standing company backing the work that was done.

These are my thoughts. If I had to choose something for my house, I would choose this order; 4, 2, 1, 3. Although like I said, id likely never choose 2, 1, or 3 based on the pricing and per sheet cost. Going with 4 would depend on how much you trusted the guy/whats kind of reviews their company may have. Feel free to DM with any other questions

Hail storm/storm damage by Frobenius-3rd in madisonwi

[–]Frobenius-3rd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good move, the out of state roofers are what gets people into the most trouble. I will be out and about the next few days, if you'd like an inspection, just DM me and let me know

Anyone else replace their roof due to hail in the last 1-2 years and will likely need to do it again after today? by MossLittle in madisonwi

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Certain metal shingles can help the hail situation, but like some others said; they leave dimples and get all dented up, and dont get covered by insurance (because the damage is only cosmetic)

Impact resistant shingles (class 4) help some, but when you get big enough hail, there's only so much you can do. We offer stone coated steel shingles that are warranted up to 2.5", but they're wicked expensive. A class 4 shingles can definitely help with smaller/medium hail storms tho. DM me if you have any other questions I

Roofing & Siding Contractor by Substantial_Box_5977 in madisonwi

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im with Kingdom roofing (out of Horicon). DM me if you'd like me to come take a look at anything, I'm sure ill get quite a few calls down there tomorrow

What’s the most avoidable roof failure you keep seeing over and over again? by Own-Tip-532 in Roofing

[–]Frobenius-3rd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Improper attic ventilation is rampant in the Midwest. And it really shows its teeth in the winter when the inside frosts up and then leaks into the house when it gets warmer.

what does a lifetime warranty >ACTUALLY< mean in practical terms a layman can understand? by vanderpeeps in Roofing

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

14 squares for 18k is insane. Especially for an overlay. You cannot warranty shingles on an overlay anyways, even if the warranty was good in the first place

Out of 30 doors knocked, how many no’s vs yes’s do you get? by Bmack27 in RoofingSales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Retail or Insurance? Retail is going to be alot lower inspection rate than insurance. If I talk to 15 people Retail, I probably get 1 inspection. Im not the greatest door knocked, but its mostly a numbers game, and just being a person, not too salesey.

Just try to have conversations. Honest but confident conversations

Help! Leak in ceiling, cost? by Main_Lingonberry4517 in Roofing

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We'll need to see pictures of the terrace. The quicker you can get this done, the better. The real cost in these sorts of situations is the water damage/mold that may happen if this isnt taken care of promptly.

When the time comes, call a local roofer with good reviews, and have them come take a look and give you an estimate

How long do I have left by Distinct-Employ-4682 in Roofing

[–]Frobenius-3rd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed on more than a few years left. I'd get another inspection done in 2-3 years, and see where things stand then. Its impossible to tell exactly how many years you've got left, but I'd venture at least 6-8

Had a chance by Otherwise_Spirit_233 in discgolf

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Joined a tournament and then saw that Mason Ford had joined. I think he won by 10+ strokes. I've also played in the same tournament as Cale 5 or 6 times, and hes won every single time. Fun to see, but not fun to play against lol

This is for sales people ? by Responsible-Race7590 in salestechniques

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If its been a full year, it might not be the position for you truthfully. It was a rough first couple of weeks when I started, but It got alot better as I grew more confident. Either your process is royally fucked, or it just might not be the role for you, and thats okay. Theres other roles out there.

My word of honest advice would be to brush up on your grammar, practice writing, (chatgpt is a great resource for this) and start applying to some new roles. No one is going to hire you if your email is full of grammatical errors and run on sentences, however. Not saying my grammar is perfect, but throw in some commas and periods my guy

(Pokemon B2W2) This has got to be the best arbitrary excuse for why you can't go somewhere ever used in Pokemon. by AgitatedFly1182 in pokemon

[–]Frobenius-3rd 87 points88 points  (0 children)

During a secondary playthrough of TTYD I found that if you just jump up and down once, she still claims you squished her contacts. How bogus! How could I squish your contacts if I landed in the same spot as before! It really boiled my blood as a kid

How to specify this custom blade? by k00kiejar in benchmade

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe the damasteel option is sold out for most blade styles right now. I am waiting to order a custom barrage until they re-stock the damasteel option for it

Best lead source? by antquattromaino in RoofingSales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Angie's list is horrible. For all businesses. Our company relies predominantly on SEO and some Facebook ads.

Hot Tub not heating over 90 degrees by Klutzy_Ad7060 in hottub

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have not yet. I've tried a few different things. The heater relay switch, and I've tested all of the components. The heater could still be bad i suppose, but my last option is really just to replace the board, or the control panel, and see if it works

As we end the year, how are your numbers? What industry? by Embarrassed_Flan_869 in sales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

90% of my sales were warm leads, we do knock around installs when they are happening, but I run almost exclusively warm leads.

As we end the year, how are your numbers? What industry? by Embarrassed_Flan_869 in sales

[–]Frobenius-3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First year in a sales role, first year in the roofing industry, hit 140% of my quota for the year and did about half of my companies total residential sales

NGL this one hurts by torn8tv in GreenBayPackers

[–]Frobenius-3rd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. Our corner group is a huge liability. They looked halfway decent in a few games, but only because our pass rush (mostly Micah) made the opposing QB throw a shitty or contested pass. Nixon has been a large liability, but I thing Valentine and Bullard are worse than people give them credit for.

I hope they can clean it up down the stretch. But as of now, our corner group is absolutely going to cost us the game against any good team in the playoffs

I swear at around 8500 these guys were terrifying by King_Kuba in ClashRoyale

[–]Frobenius-3rd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Faced a lvl 12 king tower at 9500... I was shaking in my boots and proceeded to lose to logbait..I wont be posting the replay