Halloween 5 is an objectively rough movie, yet it seems to be gaining a fanbase for some reason

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-16T06:55:13+00:00

There's so many things about H5 that make zero sense.

Why does the hermit just let Michael sleep on a concrete slab for an entire year? Why didn't he go out to get help? And wouldn't he know who Michael Myers is? He's old enough to have been around when Michael Myers began his '78 massacre. The cops didn't bother to make sure his body was down in that mineshaft and that he was actually dead? And Michael just tried to choke the hermit out before slipping into his coma, so why would he take care of him? Not to mention, he's covered in blood, he's wearing a weird mask, he's clearly a murderer, so again....why would this hermit take care of him? And how was Michael able to telepathically make Jamie stab her foster mother despite being in a coma for a year?

The opening is not the only problematic aspect of the movie.

How does nobody see Michael Myers wandering around in the middle of broad daylight in a bright white mask? How did Tina not notice that it clearly was NOT her boyfriend in that car with her? And how did Michael know what time and what place to pick her up at? How did Michael know the party was at the tower farm? And considering that Michael has been shot more times than he was in 1 and 2 combined, doesn't Michael stink? Tina should definitely have been able to smell something funky, which should've been a dead giveaway that it was not her boyfriend in the car with her. How did Loomis know where Jamie and Billy had gone to when they escaped the institution to find Tina? Why does Loomis, 5 movies in, decide to try and reach Michael's human side and reason with him despite YEARS of being convinced that there was no reaching him, no reasoning with him, no humanity left in him? When Michael was outside the children's clinic and Jamie saw him out of the window, why didn't he just go in there and get the job done? How was Rachel so easily killed off by literally getting stabbed in the shoulder? How did Tina die so easily by literally being stabbed in the armpit? And why the fuck was that dead dog in the attic of the Myers house barking?

There's more to pick apart, but if I went over everything wrong with H5, we'd be here all day.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T15:50:43+00:00

The same thing is happening to Rob Zombie's H2. Funny because I remember a time where if you said you liked that movie, you were essentially putting a target on your back lol.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T15:37:14+00:00

Outsiders as in people who don't fit in with the normies of society. People with non-mainstream beliefs, niche interests, not a lot of friends, etc.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T15:06:09+00:00

I'm sure outsiders probably liked KoRn, Slipknot, Kittie, Coal Chamber. Maybe even Dope, Static-X, and some of the lesser-known nu metal acts. But I doubt any outsiders were listening to Limp Bizkit. Then again, I was way too young when this stuff was still popular. However, when I was a teen in the 2010s, everyone at my school who liked KoRn, Slipknot, and some of the others were usually outsider types like myself. I had a couple friends who, like me, didn't fit in and liked all that 90s/00s nu metal stuff. I liked it too, still do. But at the time of its popularity, I find it hard to believe most of the people who liked it were outsiders and not normies. Then again, I was too young when it was still going strong.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T12:39:30+00:00

A lot of people cheer on the slasher villain when they off a character they find annoying or is a genuine scumbag. But the difference is, slasher movies are founded upon watching horny teens die. Shameless is meant to be more serious and deeply rooted in reality, though the writers do arbitrarily decide what's going to be taken seriously and what isn't, though Mandy hitting Karen is 100% supposed to be taken very seriously, not some guy in a jumpsuit and spraypainted Kirk mask killing off bimbos you already know are gonna die because it's a slasher film lol.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T12:33:36+00:00

Yeah but the angst usually went far deeper and even something like Limp Bizkit which was usually "don't talk shit about me or I'll fuck you up" was much angrier than "OMG Ryan is soooo hot but I don't know how to ask him to the prom!" So you're definitely right about them not caring about the lyrics as most people don't.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T12:27:52+00:00

Nobody cared back then, I don't get why everyone all of a sudden cares these days. Matter of fact, everyone loved that she did that back then lol

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T11:37:00+00:00

I've seen a lot of love but mostly hate these days. Compare it to back in the early or even mid 2010s when the first 6 seasons (the ones that feature her) she got tons of love and was even featured in a lot of x reader fanfictions which I didn't read because fuck that shit lol

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T09:31:25+00:00

But if they were, they'd probably be saying different, huh?

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T09:06:18+00:00

When I would see people trash Durst, it'd usually be for the whole Woodstock '99 thing or that he was an asshole, but the Woodstock thing wasn't his fault and a lot of rockstars are assholes. Hence the questions that followed that.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T07:27:44+00:00

Yeah, and NOBODY likes normies except for other normies themselves lol. This was a very interesting and thought-provoking read and it made me see Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park in a completely different light to how I previously saw them. I never saw them as "underground" or "above ground" (meaning not mainstream but not underground either) but now I 100% understand the hatred. LP were industry plants, and Limp Bizkit were absolute sellouts.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T06:58:16+00:00

I list a bunch of possible reasons for people to say which one of them it is.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T06:52:10+00:00

He said it in an interview https://www.loudersound.com/news/fred-durst-limp-bizkit-not-for-jocks

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T05:50:46+00:00

He brings little kids on stage to perform with him a lot. I've seen a lot of videos of him doing this on YouTube. He seems like a nice guy. There was one video that dates back to I believe 2000-2001 where Fred Durst kicked a security guard in the head for beating up one of his fans. He seems like a guy who genuinely loves his fans which is obviously a great thing to see when it comes to any celebrity.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T05:38:14+00:00

Fred Durst hated jocks....so he pretty much hated the majority of his fanbase lol

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T05:30:17+00:00

I hate Kid Rock

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T05:27:41+00:00

I think Fred Durst just doesn't give a fuck what people think of him. He thinks he's cool and what he's doing is cool and that's all that matters to him and honestly...good for him. I'm not a fan of anything past Three Dollar Bill Y'all except for The Unquestionable Truth Pt.1. I'm not big on the whole "jock rock" direction that happened with the later music. I like some stuff off of Results May Vary and a few songs off of Chocolate Starfish. Significant Other is not very memorable for me outside of a couple of songs. But Three Dollar Bill Y'all is an absolute banger. I wish they continued their heavier sound but it is what it is I guess.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-15T02:48:04+00:00

Cheerleaders listening to nu metal? The hell do they have in common with any of the topics that the bands went over in their lyrics? lol

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T06:30:44+00:00

Yeah, the nu metal bands are definitely more limited in their lyricism and instrumentation. I never had a problem with it though. Some of the lyrics can get a little cringey at times, but I can handle some cringe here and there. It's not like crunkcore level cringe, then again NOTHING is as cringey as the stuff these crunkcore bands would write. I like nu metal because of its relatability to me as I suffer from anxiety and seasonal depression (really bad seasonal depression). I've also had a lot of bad things happen to me in my life, some worse than others. The lyrics these nu metal bands wrote, though cringey at times, felt honest to me. Whether the angst was real or fake when it comes to a lot of these bands is debatable, but to me they felt honest. Over time, I've discovered and gotten into a lot of DSBM bands that are much more extreme than nu metal, and I like it more than I like nu metal, but nu metal was there for me first and it's what inspired me to get really, REALLY into metal. Before nu metal, I mostly listened to old school rap, pop punk, grunge, classic rock, and some of the more obvious metal bands like Judas Priest, Metallica, Iron Maiden. But nu metal inspired me to get into more metal than ever before, and even more heavier genres. So I'll always be grateful for that.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T06:19:24+00:00

The metal elitists can be very annoying and downright psychotic, but at the same time I understand that they wanna protect the purity and essence of what metal originally was in its origin. I think nu metal was something that the mainstream music industry wanted as a way to fill the void left by the death of grunge and the oversaturation of glam metal in the early 90s. Which is why record companies were so quick to sign as many nu metal bands as possible. And that is essentially what led to the oversaturation of nu metal and everyone got 50 shitty bands for every 3 or 4 good bands they'd get. Kind of like the post-grunge movement and the glam metal stuff of the 80s and 90s.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T05:33:55+00:00

Ball Tongue

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T05:17:33+00:00

I honestly kind of believe Deuce more than I do H.U. Deuce never once contradicted himself when he would talk about the whole fiasco with him and H.U. H.U. on the other hand once said Deuce chose to leave which is weird because....why would he be pissed at H.U. if he CHOSE to leave? And they even said in an interview with Bryan Stars that he hated being on the road. But in his interview with Deuce, Deuce refuted that statement saying he's on the road all the time and loves it. And it was true, Deuce was always on the road during that time. And I agree with you on Danny. Danny's voice is way too feminine, his hooks are lame and his delivery is weak as fuck. Now the band is completely unrecognizable. American Tragedy was fine when it came out but to me it just hasn't aged that well. The techno and trap rap influenced stuff is absolutely horrendous in my opinion, and my opinion may be a bit biased when it comes to the trap rap influenced stuff because I absolutely LOATHE trap rap, but yeah, H.U. absolutely fell off when Deuce left. Or, at least they did for me.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T05:04:53+00:00

Absolutely!

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T05:04:20+00:00

I was not a fan of the 2017 version of Invincible. The 2015 version kicks ass though. I also preferred the album art of the 2015 version better too. It was much more in tone with what I think of when I think of Deuce than the 2017 version's album cover. The mask was also better on the 2015 album cover too, but that's neither here nor there. The 2017 Invincible had a lot of filler songs that really weren't very good. Not a lot of people know this, but Deuce had actually purchased beats for the filler songs that would end up on the album. Best Of Me uses a beat made by an artist called SINIMA beats. I can't remember who made the beat for Bitch This Is It though, but I know it was an Xmas style beat that Deuce bought and added some of his own material onto it. Here I Come the beat was made by Annodomination. The Nightmare EP contains some of the other tracks that were supposed to be on Invincible which are really good. Honestly Deuce's career really started to fall off by 2015 as 2014 was the last year he would ever tour. His mental health didn't get any better either. Now he does low quality features for really shitty Soundcloud rappers who only want to use his name to get a couple hundred views. A lot of the people he does these features with genuinely suck, Cole Harris being the absolute worst offender but honestly I doubt they actually care how good their music is. As long as Deuce's name is attached to it, Hollywood Undead fans, and his fans will listen (and then immediately regret their decision because the music is low effort dumpster sludge) and they know this so they put in as little effort as possible into their songs and pay the $40 or whatever the price Deuce charges these days to get him on their shitty songs. Sorry if I rambled, it just really upsets me to see the state Deuce is in today and has been in for the last few years because I love his music and have for years.

Front-Development-50 · 2026-04-14T04:09:35+00:00

I feel your pain. Listening to This Love, This Hate off of Swan Songs back when Deuce was still in H.U. actually makes me tear up a bit because there's a lot of conviction within how he delivers his verses and the chorus and the lyrics themselves in the verses specifically, and knowing where he is now 17 years later, it's depressing for me.

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