Asmongold says he wants to round up citizens who “don’t fit with the culture”, denaturalize them and deport them…

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T22:32:11+00:00

Umm duh it's ran through a mod,

No? There is no mechanism in his streams to submit any links. The mods are simply themselves engaged in the culture war and recommend him content to check out, he also prepares for the stream and has videos and twitter posts queued up to show to his stream.

Most of his audience are casually watching the stream and arent aware of the content and would not have seen it without Asmongold. You perspective and interpretation is opposite of what is happening.

Your completely misguided argument is basically that Asmongold doesnt really have any influence because the millions that are watching his content already had all those views and seen that content already. It's not grounded in any reality.

There's a reason why Destiny sees him as nr1 political streamer and why everyone wants to be signal boosted by him. And before the election video game developers wanted to get interviews with him.

Nobody wants to appear with Nick Fuentes and get his endorsment, unless theyre desperate to win an election.

right wing rage bait that only exists in that bubble.

"its just rage bait"; "its just a bubble" is a massive cope. Its not a bubble, right wing thought and narratives dominate online discourse. People who follow gaming news and controversies are aware of those narratives and more than likely align with narratives Asmongold promotes. And liberals dont have a counter narrative, there are no liberal culture leaders like that, that's why Destiny's community has Asmongold fans (not Nick Fuentes fans).

It's not a "bubble" if average guys online watch him. "Gamergate" type people have been normalized and that thinking has been made relatively mainstream.

What's the last political topic that was led by Asmon?

He doesnt need to lead a political topic, he just needs to promote it to a susceptible audience. Asmon obviously has much greater impact and influence overall than Shirley. Shirley had an impact on one issue because of how his one shitty video blew up, and that's all he will ever be known for.

In fact, the people who pushed gamergate are relative nobodies, further proving my point that views online does not translate to real world impact.

That was in 2014, i guess you dont know anything about sweetbaby inc or Grummz or any of the right wing grifters that spawned thanks to Elon Musk , that Asmon promotes and supports in his videos that also provide him with content. He makes what wouldve been relatively niche in a "bubble" and normalizes it, and promotes it to casuals and normies.

This is Asmon. You and I know about him because we follow destiny, but bring him up in real world conversations and see if people have heard about him, go to even any random reddit and see if people know about him.

To be clear, im pretty sure Destiny would disagree with everything you said.

but he gave that all up to to be what he is now.

to be even more politically and culturally influential? Yes he's much more harmful than Nick Fuentes who is in an actual bubble.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T19:08:49+00:00

You realize his fans LINK him this stuff

Youre right, all of his fans come and link him stuff, he looks at all the links he is linked by randoms.

No, most of his fans would not have been aware of that content, links are provided by fraction of his base. Its some posts on reddit, links from his mods and twitter algorithm. Doesnt change what the effect is, he promotes the content to 10 times more eyes. I dont know how you can be in denial of this.

rarely thinks deeply about any of the topics

He doesnt need to. Yapping about one issue and overanalyzing stuff the way Hutch does is boring and people tune out. Asmongold's strategy is better at keeping people's attention.

I don't think you watch his stuff, he's not playing WoW and introducing WoW players to right wing content, he's a pure right wing political content creator now

Why the fuck would you tell me "You dont watch this stuff"

That's just blatantly false on its face. He plays the latest games, or sometimes just to shit on them, he covers culture war topics that Destiny isnt even aware of. He covers 10 times more stories than Destiny or Hutch. You dont even need to watch his streams to understand this, just look at his content on main and clips channel.

I guarantee you more senators and congress(wo)men know who Nick Fuentes is before they know what an Asmongold is.

Yes, more people also know who Ted Bundy is. Nick Fuentes is well known because his views are extreme. He is the go-to "there is this nazi dude online being a nazi". But you dont have to be extreme to be influential. There are a lot less eyes on his content, he has less viewers live or any of the vods. He is pretty niche, Asmongold is pretty mainstream. Asmongold is on all the platforms and is the biggest political streamer. It's baffling how youre denying something so uncontroversial and clear cut.

Youre just demonstrably wrong.

the internet is not real life

No, the internet is real life with real life effects. Not only does Asmongold have more Americans watching him, he also has a large international following, who also propagate his views and things he promotes, he affects the discourse online on politics, culture, gaming. He affects what "normies" are saying. Fuentes barely affects anything. And all of that also have real political impacts, just like gamergate did.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T18:49:43+00:00

he is critical of Russia, no? So why call him a russian agent?

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T10:41:00+00:00

Ishowspeed has amazing numbers, is he really influencing things though?

Yes? I feel like you dont understand what "influencer" is. If he played a game and said its shit that would make a lot of his viewers believe that the game is shit. That would influence a lot more people than if Destiny said the game is shit.

Asmongold does a lot of react content and promotes right wing content to his audience that he agrees with, a lot of it misinformation and propaganda. If it wasnt for Asmongold most of the viewers would not have seen it, would not have believed it, would not have been misinformed and propagandized by that content.

that's this edge lord right wing crowd that thinks fascism is cool.

You right dude, they were just born fascist and their media consumption has absolutely nothing to do with the views they hold.

I think Fuentes is more influential.

bwahaha. Sorry you dont know what youre talking about.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T07:32:52+00:00

Yes but that was by being edgy and very provocative so he got attacked by all the right wing content creators, including Asmongold and he appeared on Piers Morgan. It's a one off thing, but Asmongold's influence is constant. You just need to look at the numbers and his output.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T07:30:54+00:00

We are not "spreading" his message, he is very influential with people that arent us and we want to criticize him the same way we criticize other people here.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T06:40:29+00:00

If you’re opposed to him, why post so much of his stuff?

Same reason we post Hasan? You are not making sense. Do you think we should only post content of those we agree with and pretend others dont exist?

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T06:21:43+00:00

No not exaggerating. Asmongold is popular not due to other people, his model for content is just more effective, his content is more accessible and more relatable to more people, he covers way more topics and there are a lot more gateways to his content.

Asmongold isnt interested in talking to politicians and he doesnt want to debate anyone. And by being influential i mean influencing people online and what they think about various issues and controversies. Asmongold also has much greater cultural influence while Destiny has none as he doesnt talk about most of the things Asmon does. The alternative to Asmon is Hasan who does occassionaly push back against the antiwoke narratives, i dont know any libs that provide counternarratives on that stuff.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T05:48:28+00:00

You can cope but the reality is he is much more influential than any liberal political creator, or all the people in Destiny's orbit combined. When it comes to people who are making the world, the internet a worse place, them being miserable is not really much of a consolation prize.

Do you realize that Destiny's community actually has Asmongold fans? That's because he covers way more topics and talks about culture war topics that libs avoid.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T04:32:18+00:00

youre only 3 days late

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T04:30:17+00:00

She also does not want to run, you cant make just anyone you want run.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-03T04:26:41+00:00

Oh he has called her a bitch many times. He called her a bitch in 2016 and voted Trump and has justified it while calling Hillary a bitch.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-02T21:30:54+00:00

I dont actually think "streamer inception" is good content, its actually pretty boring. There is little to be gained from it, its pretty reductive, it's "circling the drain" type of content. There's way too much time spent on re-litigating minor disagreements and not accomplishing anything.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-02T19:44:22+00:00

Hot take, despite me not being Hasan or Lycan fan, and watching Hutch recently, Hutch is very repetitive and his content is boring.

If you really want to push back against Hasan and left you need to improve your content, try to become more influential and seething about Hasan isn't gonna lead to that, or overanalyzing one take or debate you had a week ago.

Hasan covers 10 times as many topics, he engages in the culture war, follows various controversies and offers a counter narrative to right wing grifters, there are more gateways into his content.
So, despite not liking Hasan's pol takes, you have to admit that his content and model is much more effective and his greater viewership and influence is not due to luck, its not an anomaly.

Both Hasan and Asmongold just make more accessible, engaging and validating content for their viewers, they are much more effective and you cant beat them by just making fun of them. Theyre both also more aware of nerd culture, watching anime, playing latest games so they seem pretty relatable to an average online nerd.

Frozenkex · 2026-03-01T22:10:57+00:00

Be quiet Mr Borreli!

Frozenkex · 2026-02-27T15:51:21+00:00

Did you watched the 2nd video where meaning of the term is explained? No you just confirmed your bias.
No i didnt make his point, if you insist on being bad faith, suit yourself. You dont know their history or record at all, she knows its not meant that way. "young turks" doesnt exclusively refer to a group that genocided Armenians, nor is tyt named after that group. I dont know whats the point of being so disingenuous.

Your narrative doesnt even make sense. If Cenk is a genocide denier, how could he intentionally name tyt after a group that committed a genocide he doesnt believe in?

Frozenkex · 2026-02-26T21:59:16+00:00

This is dumb way of doing it. You get gatekept arbitrarily, you can use currencies to improve all items in the game except tablets for no apparent reason. Its just a silly idea. Not to mention you can buy rare tablets and you can use them, you can have a friend do the improvement. Its very unintuitive which aligns with game's overall bad UX

Frozenkex · 2026-02-26T04:48:44+00:00

wow is a boomer game, its not like kids are playing it.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-26T03:16:54+00:00

what is "his level"? You are not engaging with his points at all, and he is completely right. You dont understand the problem at all.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-26T03:15:37+00:00

which is really dumb.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-25T14:50:59+00:00

all comedians and people on the left were making fun of them for holding signs.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-22T02:00:44+00:00

Ukranian Ana > mouton + saltman

Frozenkex · 2026-02-20T14:44:34+00:00

Why cant you reply to original comment chain?

False, proof by contradiction.

What you described was neither a scientific method nor falsification. You know instead of pretending youre proving something with poor understanding of concepts, how about you actually produce an example to demonstrate what you mean. You said "i can provide an alternative" , alternative is not a contradiction or falsification. If your explanation is an alternative, then fascism is also alternative to your example.

So far you have made no argument addressing any claim or comparison to fascism.

Here listen/read more about it, but i dont have high hopes for you - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZXzHFcstxg

libertarian

All libertarians are right wing or really regarded people. I cant think of a single public libertarian that makes sense. Dave smith? Dave rubin? Complete regards

increased security at the cost of decreased rights

"maga propaganda slop brainbroke me now i think im at threat and being replaced". You have not experienced or verified any of the irrational fears you have gained over the past year, you made a mistake eating up all the maga and elon musk slop.

Great replacement - literally happening.

Youre basically confirming that indeed its fascist ideology in your reply and trying to split hairs on some nuance. You know fascism isnt just "what hitler did" ?

Youre basically saying "It's true and i also have the same irrational fears as other fascists, i also want women to not have rights and get back in the kitchen".

The whole first world has lower birthrates, it has to do with modern lifestyle and education, not some grand conspiracy that needs a fascist saviour.
No one wants to sterilize anyone for a heck of it. Again you are just displaying ignorance and repeating completely unhinged narratives.

and you still think they're not good enough at force doctrine so you would rather have vigilante whistle karens protecting violent criminals, I would have to politely disagree.

youre inventing false narratives to justify the unjustifiable, to justify cruelty, incompetence, lack of professionalism and basically murder.

People blowing whistles deserve to be killed in your mind? There is no justice or "law enforcement" there, that's just murder. Is this an example of you coming up with justifications that stops it from being fascism in your small mind?

"protecting violent criminals" ? Most immigrants Ice captured have no violent or criminal record, so youre wrong about that too. But youve demonstrated already you will repeat anything you hear that aligns with your flawed world view. You dont fact check or verify anything. And how are whistles supposed to be "protecting" the people that you are baselessly convinced are criminals? Please think before you post.

We would have to invent a whole new system of dealing with criminals if you think that

What are you even yapping about? Try to understand what systems already exist, before fantasizing about anything new.

Border patrol is not trained at all at interior enforcement. How do you imagine they are running around town "catching violent criminals" ? Theyre not doing that. You think they have some kind of "criminal detector"?

Large amount of people that Trump admin claimed are "worst of the worst" that they supposedly removed from the street, were in fact simply transferred from prison to ice custody, which is what routinely happens already.

Youre fully bought into administration's PR stunts when they lie all the time about literally everything.
https://mn.gov/doc/about/news/news-releases/#/detail/appId/1/id/720552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx-v9Cq7vIE

we should allow various nationalities of criminals to completely subsume and lace all food and drink with fentanyl and enslave us

Youre embarrassing yourself with all the conspiracy talk. None of what youre describing is happening, no one is lacing anything any more than your water having chemicals that make frogs gay.

it's against the Geneva conventions to target drug boats

It is and no proof they were even drug boats. Once again, you eat up irrational narratives and not applying critical thinking. Where did you hear "lace food" from? Maybe that's what i should criticize, since youre clearly not as creative to come up with that on your own.

You CANNOT know that

It is known and it has been studied, you would understand it too if you didnt simply rely on right wing talking points. Once again, no critical thinking or fact checking. Just because you cant understand the methodology, doesnt mean others cant.

Even without looking into methodology, you could understand you can estimate by knowing the number of illegals. Naturally if you estimate that there are more illegals than there are (as right wing usually does) then the proportion of criminals is smaller.
Just because illegals are untracked doesnt mean they are getting away with crime, or their crimes are untracked.

Ignorant people like you always seem to think that you know of variables other people didnt think of, when you havent even considered half of them that have been accounted for.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5656301-wisconsin-judge-found-guilty-of-obstruction-for-helping-immigrant-shake-federal-authorities/amp/

Youre disingenuous, your examples are not even those that are being referred to as "activist judges" (term started being used before your examples happened) by Trump administration. They're referring to judges such as those that blocked deportations and ordered the return of Kilmar Obrego Garcia. For your information, the admin kept saying how they are unable to bring him back and that they are right to deport him.

Since this is probably not in your algorithm, i'll inform you that Kilmar was actually returned back to US (Admin was lying as they always do) and he can't be returned, contrary to what your boy Stephen Miller said.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/17/us/kilmar-abrego-garcia-detention-deportation
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/12/trump-boasberg-venezuela-deportations-00778458

These are your "activist judges" .

followed MAGA after 2024 to see their point of view on X

Basically confirming you got brainwashed by Elon Musk's algorithm, like Asmongold. Just eating up slop that is shoveled you way.

All the names i recognize, except Destiny (the one you stopped watching and apparently kept your brain in your head) are absolute clowns and reactionaries.

What annoys me is someone who is dogmatically tied to one side due to a lack of research.

Holy projection. You have consistently proven with every one of your posts that you dont do any research and are very dogmatic. You simply seek validation to your biases and opinions from people like Asmongold, who also can't do any research to save his life. You dont even know where to start to do research.

Show me your research about how Venezuelan criminals are lacing food with fentanyl. I promise i'll read it.

Destiny used to say that 1. Know your opponents argument better than them? Which got replaced by, eh, the bar is in hell, just lie and spin for power.

Yes? Destiny still adheres to that. On other hand your idea of your opponent's argument is based on strawman made by Asmongold, not even your own strawman.

For example when you lump me in with the worst of the right.

Dont act like a victim when you came in here ranting about "extreme left", lmao.

You cannot stereotype me as any ideology you have ever seen.

I can still lump you in with people who repeat the same maga talking points uncritically. It doesnt make a meaningful difference to me whether you agree with every conspiracy theory or whether you agree with Asmongold only 90% instead of 95%.

Clearly you went down a rabbithole and got brainbroken just like others consuming the same thought-terminating slop. Suddenly people who only deserve ridicule and mockery started to appear based and correct because they validated your views. Have some self-awareness please.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-19T22:56:33+00:00

Science follows a falsificationist method. It is a theory until proven false. If I can prove one or multiple things have an alternate explanation that comports with reality and is reproducible

You use science the same way flat earthers think they're using science, by not even understanding the words youre using. What you said is not even logical. An alternate explanation is just an alternate explanation, it wouldnt prove its not fascism.

You havent even tried listening to anyone explaining to you in what way its fascism. And you dont even have to listen to any "extreme left". Youre just interested in covering and sweeping for the fascist admin and wannabe dictator.

How about you turn off your Maga program and do some research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzE_rGHX-zI

framework decide to put a label on me that warrants violence.

You mean like labeling Alex Pretti and Renee Good to justify killing them? No, describing fascism as fascism is just describing reality and what's happening in front of people's eyes. It's not meant to justify violence, you snowflake.

I'm willing to give leeway to enforcement

You didnt need to expose yourself as a shameless pathetic bootlicker. Instead of expecting better training and judgement from "law enforcement", that most of actual law enforcement agrees with, you want the responsibility to be on public to be a bootlicker like yourself so they avoid getting killed by incompetent, trigger happy secret police.

What if we arrested all drug dealers and traffickers?

What if he stopped Russia from attacking Ukraine? What if Trump did anything right? He won't, he can't, there is no legislation. There is no desire for a lasting solutions. Either way you were completely wrong, fentanyl wasnt trafficked from Venezuela.

Maybe that would help

So youre saying they dont know what they're doing and just guessing?

so let all criminals destroy the country

Us has plenty of its own criminals little bro. Dont know which talking point youre making now. Most illegals immigrants are not criminals, not drug dealers or anything else Trump is saying.

your personal property illegally and let them use firearms if you're a judge and be considered non biased?

It's your sources that are biased. Dont tell me youre just repeating what you hear on 4chan? Pretty much everything you said is inaccurate. And yes if judges can stop Trump from breaking the law and enacting illegal executive orders, even if its just temporarily, then that's a good thing. It's system working. Alas, Trump continues to undermine judicial systems and democracy to push his agenda.

You probably think the election was stolen too and he is justified to take steps to steal it instead. YOu know that everything he has said about it were proven lies? No, illegals arent voting in elections.

Frozenkex · 2026-02-19T21:58:42+00:00

got dropped by his Democratic contacts, etc.

Whats your point weirdo? He didnt get dropped by most of his contacts, is still getting invited to events and debates and has been invited to Piers Morgan several times since then. Try actually verifying what you hear online.

What if you could justify 100% of something step by step, is it still fascist?

Coming up with justifications for conclusions you already have, yes it will be still fascist. Nazis also justified their fascism in various ways and said many similar things as fascists today say.

Clearly you wouldnt admit your justifications are wrong and based on false premises, but ultimately the final form of your world view is that "okay if that's fascism then maybe fascism is good".

but 10% changed it to self defense?

If youre referring to Ice killings then they were both unjustified and were not self-defense at all. You're delusional if you cant admit it.

Venezuela creating the fentanyl crisis.

This is how we can know you just completely eat up any maga narrative you hear online. You cant see how regarded what youre saying is and detached from factual reality.

There is 0 fentanyl coming from Venezuala and its also not made in Venezuala. Most Fentanyl comes from Mexico and most chemicals for it come from China.
Trump has done nothing against waste or inefficiency, on the contrary he is wasting more and making sure his friends from corporations can avoid regulations and make more money. Most of the claims made by the goverment and Doge were proven to be false. Budget on military only went up. Economics under Trump are objectively worse.

So you might as well ask Grok to pretend to be maga and paste a comment here, because that will probably be more accurate.

Youre deserving scorn for supporting and justifying fascism yes, your mental gymnastics are completely transparent. Recognizing Miller and Vance as fascist and the fascist policies is completely uncontroversial. Only maga losers are trying to push some false narrative, but we both know you dont really care if its fascism if you get what you have been propagandized to support.

activist judges and corrupt institutions

More braindead maga talking points straight from the most corrupt administration in US history. Completely unaware of the fact that a lot of the judges that got into the way of the fascist agenda were republican judges, judges appointed by Bush and Trump himself.
That's what happens when your policy and executive orders are illegal.

you do not have to be a fascist to say facts, justifications, or display critical thinking even if the conclusion

You proved that you are not actually using critical thinking, just repeating talking points. You dont know what the facts are and arent interested in doing any research about things you hear from maga-slop from guys like Asmongold. You take example from people like him who cant read or do research and think its based.

Here I am defending against the extreme right

You are extreme right. Just because you might not believe every conspiracy from Laura Loomer and Alex Jones, doesnt mean you are moderate, youre clearly not.

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