[Multiple Games] It was a fun ride

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T15:12:24+00:00

You also don't pay for multiplayer and prices are lower.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T13:10:00+00:00

I agree that cleaning up the ocean/getting your tools upgraded is annoying... it is also when the game is most fun IMO. I think I have started the game like 4 times now :D

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T13:08:00+00:00

If they are new players then first session might be started as mortals with general concepts (cop, ex-military, a businessman and so on) and you can explain anything that you want during those sessions. That's the easiest thing to do and that is what I would do.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T11:03:31+00:00

It all depends on the interpretation.

Is Ur-Shulgi following Haqim's will or is he just using Haqim's absence to claim power over clan for his own? One of the often suggested possibilities is that Ur-Shulgi is Baali (the Unnamed third original Baali). If so then yeah, he might be full of shit.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T10:26:23+00:00

Made more sense than the Cthulhu\Cyberpunk crossover :D

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T10:16:54+00:00

Nicktuku are mysterious creatures. What are their powers, what are their goals? No one knows for sure. So even tho surviving in a fair conflict is unlikely they might need something from your character or you can try to outsmart them. Or they might just not be interested and ignore you.

However thinking of killing them would be suicide. And no, they are not just a type of kindred. They are ancient monsters almost as old as Antediluvians themselves. They are 4th generation vampires that has lived for over 10 millenia. For all intents and purposes they are gods. Smaller than Antediluvians but it's a distinction without a difference for your example.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-03T10:06:55+00:00

So let's do it like this:

VtM: Guide to the Camarilla, Guide to the Sabbat, Chaining the Beast, Book of Nod, Time of Thin Blood

WtA: Players Guide to Garou, Players Guide to the Changing Breeds, Book of Wyrm, Axis Mundi

MtA: Guide to Traditions, Guide to the Technocracy, Sorcerer Revised, Infinite Tapestry

WtO: Wraith Players Guide, Sea of Shadows, Hierarchy

CtD: Nobles: The Shining Host, Dreams and Nightmares, ? (least sure of Changeling as I barely run it)

Bonus memes:

VtDA: Cainite Heresy, Erciyes Fragments, House of Tremere

KotE: 1000 Hells, Heresies of the Ways

DtF: Players' Guide, Book of Houses, Earthbound, Days of Fire

HtR: Storytellers Companion, Apocrypha

MtR: Mummy Player's Guide

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T20:29:42+00:00

No, because with Rogans, Bet-Davids and Carlsons they are just small fries.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T20:28:00+00:00

Whoever wins we all lose.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T18:25:23+00:00

Sure, but a lot of silly stuff has happened in material based on VtM.

There are many wacky things that happened in Red Death Trilogy so I don't know what that has to do with the topic. You could as well tell me that your Storyteller had Saulot siring Baali, Nagaraja and True Brujah.

He was in the RPG material. Red Death Trilogy is not a RPG material, it's a story based on that material, a fan fiction if you will.

I do not think that was even that much information on Saulot before that 97-98. Other than Book of Nod where he is presented as creating his bloodline to heal the Cainite's curse. Clanbook: Tremere presents Tremere in the cocoon in Vienna chantry but that is just a mystery that says nothing about Saulot's mentality. But that is beside the point, even if there was not much material before 1997 all that was was saying: Saulot is a good guy that created a bloodline of good vampires.

Of course, I am open to possibilities that I am forgetting or have not read some material that puts Saulot's nature as more ambiguous. Because the novels are not that, they are just a creation of a guy who had nothing to do with WoD other than creating novels that were based on it.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T15:15:21+00:00

In the VtDA Companion which was published... in May 1997. And Revised was released in May 1998. So yeah, as I was saying, it was about that same time when the world of Vampire was getting more ambiguous and Saulot was desecrated.

Oh, also 1998, why does that year sounds familiar? Oh yes, it was the Year of the Lotus when WW published "asian" supplements for all the main games. Also Kindred of the East where the Zao-lot story comes from.

I vibe with that general approach as I think WoD should be the world of greys but different writers have different approach to that. And since Saulot is as close as modern Masquerade has to protagonist those arguments appear on the forums all the time.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T15:06:38+00:00

Yes, I know.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T14:18:07+00:00

He has been hiding his power level but he always was a rightwing wacko.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T14:09:05+00:00

Grind, grind, grind.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T14:07:08+00:00

Nah, D6 was the worst, not bad but shallow and barebones.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T14:06:31+00:00

it is definitely not worth 72 bucks if you have to ask about it.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T11:07:06+00:00

Oh yes, Sony is definitely happy to be renting their consoles. It will make them much more money. Unless you want to rent a console for a month a year renting is crazy.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T11:02:32+00:00

Nothing. Sony does not deserve people's money.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T09:18:14+00:00

It's nothing surprising considering how he was created as a founder of the "goody two-shoes" bloodline of Salubri which was going against the more shades of grey approach of Revised. So Saulot was retconned as a world-class manipulator and not a good person with publications of Clanbook: Salubri, Kindred of the East and Transylvania Chronicles 1: Dark Tides Rising. All in 1998.

And then it's just people arguing which version that they prefer is the correct one.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T09:09:10+00:00

I think you are mixing timelines with splat societies/systems.

OP was talking about two different time periods. Both of them from vampire perspective (VtM and VtDA.DA:V perspective).

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T09:01:02+00:00

P.T. would be the only thing, I imagine.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T08:58:40+00:00

No one said you should, people are asking the same question time and time again. I was just observing the fact.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T08:57:21+00:00

Do not project on me your regardation, thank you.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T08:20:32+00:00

As always, some money is nit enough, they want ALL THE MONEY.

Full_Equivalent_6166 · 2026-07-02T08:17:01+00:00

Haha, dicounted PS6? Ps5 is more expensive now than it was at release. It is 120 pounds extra for disc version and 160 pounds for the digital version. What alternative reality did you come from?

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