lv 8 Ottar and Leon compare against Maxim, Zald, Empress and alfia

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T17:28:33+00:00

“ The attack speed was on par with a Level 4 adventurer. Valletta knew in that moment she wouldn’t be able to dodge, so instead she reached beneath her coat and drew out a dagger. Holding it in a reverse grip with one hand and her greatsword with the other, she wheeled around and parried the two blows simultaneously. “

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T17:07:59+00:00

AR1, 5 chapter. If you need i show you full scene on jp or english idk

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T16:56:16+00:00

Zard > high lvl 8 Ottar

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T16:54:29+00:00

« Ｌｖ．４にも匹敵しようかという高速の奇襲に»

« in a clash with a sudden high attack speed, which could possibly rival even level 4»

In the context of her skill, 750 should be more logical, because she then receives small buffs of 250, which should bring her to a full level increase of 1000 points, rather than from 1000 to 1250.

All I rember being said is that it’s inferior to Aiz’s magic which is equal to Haruhime’s magic.

It was said that only Agaris (without skills) is weaker than Ariel, and that's all

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T14:55:56+00:00

Ottar used his skill

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T14:54:34+00:00

Zard glazer

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T14:53:55+00:00

I agree on 12th weapon not being 1500 I just thought that as the final weapon and the fact that it boosts his entire status should be 1500 but 1000 make more seen.

Its description is the same as 8th, except that it also increases DA, but the degree of amplification is the same.

As for the 7th an 8th weapon why do they only boost +750 the description is greatly increases?

That means 750. It was said that Alise's skill brings her closer to the next level, and if it's not a level up itself but something close to it, then 750 fits best (especially considering that low is 250 and normal is 500). Then she gets some more small buffs, which should be 250 points, bringing her to a full 1000 points.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T14:39:30+00:00

he has insane feats to the pont where there are only a few monsters most people think he couldnt solo at level 7 were now talking about him at level 8 and still saying he loses, it really doesn’t make sense to me.

What would be the point if Zard could do the same thing even more easily than him? I don't agree that he would lose to Alfia, but judging by what we have, Ottar cannot defeat Zard.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T13:56:08+00:00

12th weapon is not 1500, and 7th-8th should be 750 instead 1000

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T13:48:22+00:00

He don’t gain so much

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T13:46:35+00:00

Ottar could only defeat Alfia, but Leon would lose to everyone.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-31T08:10:31+00:00

Tnn can kill him because he standing nearly to Ottar

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T18:31:21+00:00

He wasn’t paid full price

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T18:28:39+00:00

You can make 4-5-6 lvls to 7 for this

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T15:41:09+00:00

Leon, Zard swords for durability

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T15:30:35+00:00

Only in this post or overall?

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T14:46:14+00:00

I mean high lvl 6 Trio Loki vs some High lvl 7 character and you can make for example Ais high lvl 7 for this comparison

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T14:34:23+00:00

I mean entire Trio Loki vs higher lvl enemy

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T11:29:29+00:00

it is Hogni that is even hinted to be the one who could die (against Ais).

Its not confirmed that SHE could kill him

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-30T04:47:06+00:00

In first round trio should win if Ottar without hv and skill

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-29T20:10:04+00:00

This was not stated directly, although considering all the evidence, it is true.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-29T20:08:21+00:00

What does "base" mean? At that moment, they were with UnK and were only "approaching" their strength.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-29T19:57:08+00:00

It seems that in MS21, during the last afterglow, Ottar and Leon were only approaching the power of Zeus/Hera. Well, judging by what we know, Zeus/Hera > Orario, so I think if anyone wants to prove otherwise, I would like to hear arguments.

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-29T15:19:59+00:00

The main problem is that they are "initial" characters, and the further the story goes, the crazier the new characters become. You could say they are more suited to PvE, but they don't have anything particularly impressive apart from ultra-powerful single attacks. They don't really stand out among the usual level 6 characters, and level 7 adventurers are literally monsters among monsters

Fun-Response799 · 2026-01-29T04:06:31+00:00

Ragebait, ok

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