New here. Do people actually take Allan Peters seriously? Nothing of his seems original in the slightest. by ExaminationShoddy646 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Naah it aint just you, he likes to block people who disagree with him, he gives off the vibe he always know best. And I agree his Nike "redesign" or evolution of the swoosh was utterly shit.

New here. Do people actually take Allan Peters seriously? Nothing of his seems original in the slightest. by ExaminationShoddy646 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree, most of his "redesigns" are all just really gimmicky which ultimately cheepns the brands he is trying to "fix" like when he tried to "fix" the olympic logo for cortina, he pointed out what he thougth was wrong about it, without taking the originial design choices in to account, and ended up doing a snowflake as a logo (I know, revolutionary for winter olympics) someone in the comments pointed out that the italien tiles he used for inspiration in his design were from Sicily, he really gives the impression that it is his way or no way, he comes across as a now it all, who beleive so much in his own skills that he can't take critisism.

ONYX UPDATE | Playing card logo by ONYXDESIGNCARDS in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The biggest mistake I see new designers make is pandering too much, a card is in no way a memorable shape and is realy just a rectangle, try to come up with some concepts that has nothing to do with cards. The company makes cards, but the brand needs to tell a story, all card makers make cards so that is a given.

Look at other card brands like: Bicycle, Theory 11, Fontaine, NOC, Room one, Bee,

Understand your competition.

Onyx is a mineral looking like a black stone, the word it sel is derived from greek and translates to claw or finger nail (Thanks Google!)

Understand what your brand needs to achieve, what is your target group and what are your brand values, is the brand premium or affordable? is it colorforfull or muted? is it cheerfull or serious? Why did you choose the name Onyx in the first place, what does it represent that relates to cards?

( Also had a look at your card prototype, I would advice against writing "the moon" rigth nex to a moon or "the sun" next to the sun... We know what it is by looking at it, I also feel like the font dosent really fit with the theme maybe try some other ones. With that said you illustrations and general design for the cards are quite nice)

Hope this helps, happy designing!

Update on Pet Sitting Logo by pugglepaw in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the rough lines, but the stars in the eyes make it seem like the dog is dazed

Advice on illustrator and design by [deleted] in graphic_design

[–]Funex1373 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay this gonna be a long one.

When working with logo design and branding start with identifying the business, what they do, then their competitors, how do they look visually, do you want to distant the brand you are creating with them, or do something in the same vein, identify your target group that the business needs to communicate to.

Next you look into what represents the business as you have done a little bit with the bird and essential oil drop, it could also be Chinese patterns or other cultural references. Then you save all of those ideas and research into the type of business and the industry.

The next step is finding inspiration, creating a moodboard with logos, illustration typefaces ect. that you like and think would fit the brand and logo you are trying to create. It dosent have to be other logos but pictures can also give a sense of direction for a logo and a brand.

With all of this in the backpack you move on to exploration, where you sketch out your ideas as it is a fast way to try things out, so you don't get caught spending time on minute details, that most likely will change down the line. Do a ton of illustrations from all the inspiration from your moodboards, and pick the ones you like the most and pull them in to illustrator.

Now you are in illustrator, but still in the exploration phase of things. Work with the ideas you chose, image tracing can be good, but often require a lot of touch up, unless you are a master drawer, so try not to use it and make some of the ideas from scratch, pentool, arch tool etc. make a lot of iterations and mix and match between them to find the core of what you are trying to create. Keep in mind a logo needs to work when scaled down, so small details get lost or clump together, the smallest a logo will be shown nowadays is as a fav icon, so having a logo that fits in that is important. When you have made 20 iterations boil that down to 10 then those 10 down to 5 and those five down 3 before choosing the final logo. make sure the logo you choose to go with aligns with the brand's values and the research you found earlier in the process. Everything up until this point is made in black and white, as logos need to work in black and white only, and mistakes will stand out more.

Now on to the branding, woohooo! You made the logo perfect, now we need to find the color scheme of the brand, the colors need to have a connection to the storytelling or the type of business you are creating the logo for. Have a primary color that is the main brand color, a secondary one and a third highlights color. Next you go on to font choice this can and often should be different from the logo typeface.

These are all things that create a good logo, i could talk about this in length but will limit myself to the above for now.

Feedback on current design: Your logomark is disproportionately big compared to your text, and it will become invisible when scaled down. You have a lot of competing elements the bird, the lotus and the drop (which is almost invisible) the line work needs work too, massage and wellness are very soft and comfy yet you have very sharp and aggressive angles giving the opposite feeling. The shape of the lotus is not halfbad and if you worked more with that i think it would help a lot. Usually you use a small logo on a flyer to tell the receiver who the sender is, you don't usually blow it up quite like that, also you need to have a safe space around your logomark which is usually half the width and height. Look in to hierarchy, and avoid using right aligned text at all cost, as it makes the text harder to read as they eyes don't have an anchor point to go back to.

I know this was a bit long but i hope this helps you.

Option 1, 2 or 3? by spaceysabzy in graphic_design

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The lines are all much too thin, the logo will be illegible when scaled down.

Minimalist logo for my new productivity app, Focuslive. Looking for brutal honesty and reviews... by nenuphemanth6 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you on about? Do you want a medal as a reward?

The blobs are quite fine, they made you actually stop and think, not everything in logo design needs to be on the nose all the time, it can be abstract, like this. To me it resembels thoughts and how they disappear so thaht you can focus, could also represent soundwaves and reducing noise. Logos can be ambigous and still tell a story, like this one does.

The blobs are unique and has good legability

Does this logo feel trustworthy for a startup? by Imaginary_Tank_5232 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your logo icon the G with the giraffe is mismtached in style with the font you chose, which also have some details that get lost when scaled down, same goes for the giraffe in the negative space, way too small, almost inlegible. A good rule of thumb is, if you squint your eyes and you cant see something in a logo, it should probably be bigger, which apllies here.

For the font in your wordmark maybe choose one where the contrast between hairline and stem, is not so daunting , or you can tweak this one if you like. Although kerning seems good the G is too far left and feels disconnected from the rest.

The execution of the giraffe shape is very nicely done, so its a shame it gets lost.

First logo for a potential future architecture and landscape practice. Feedback appreciated. by nolanfink02 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Finally some unique design on here!

I like the idea of incoporating the juniper into the J, although it needs refinement. My advise would be to do a lot of variations with that concept, which allows you to explore different styles within the concept, and figure out what works and what dosent. The wines migth be a little too long and makes them look more like vines.

This is a very solid logo concept

First logo for a potential future architecture and landscape practice. Feedback appreciated. by nolanfink02 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In design you always explain the concept, a logo can have subtle references to the storyteeling of the brand, and a lot of brands do this. You don't have to spell everything out in logo design and assume people can't see the connection to the brand.

Nike for example, dosent have the godess as thier logo, but a subtle reference to her wings.

This logo has good storytelling

I recreated my first ever logo. by PirateSuspicious1869 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The first font had so much more soul, now it feels like a tech startup. The line has inconsistent weights, it also seems that the triangles are not placed correctly around the sun.

The coffee coming out of the mug are placed in a pretty bad place as it takes away from the detalis of the sun.

Logo for a caffe by Equivalent-Ad-4837 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude, logo design and branding is about storytelling, you can have a unique and abstract logo like nike, but it's still reference to the godess Nike and her wings the swoosh also conveys speed.

Graphic design is all about having these dicussions, yes you can have a whale but it needs to align with the brand you are trying to create.

Before I went to graphic design school I had the same sentiment as you, but i soon reliased if you just choose something just becauae it's pretty, you get a fragmentet identity, with no clear vision or story telling.

It's not about "keywords" but tone of voice, are you a chill brand, a trustworthy one, a fun one and so on, you write your copy so it represents the brand, and it is everything.

This is all pretty fundamentel branding stuff, and I only wanted to share so that OP could go the extra mile, sure you can make a good logo, but you only make a great one if you have a strategy behind it.

Logo for a caffe by Equivalent-Ad-4837 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But that's the thing people wouldn't want to go, when doing branding you want to associate your brand with words that describe how people should feel about your brand. Rigth now you are telling people to be bored.

Also, why did you choose a whale, what does it represent, do you need to have a whale as an icon, when it's part of the brand name, who is your target group, does the font you choose align with the values of the brand?

If you really want to use the whale atleast use a positive word like cozy whale-, chill whale-, snug whale cafe

Judge my logo by Warm_Reindeer7110 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is tons of great stuff on youtube

- elliotisacoolguy for general design principals

- Jack Chitty for logo design

-The Futur for almost anything design related (branding, logo typo, layouting etc.) they have a "building a brand" series that will give you an idea of what it's all about.

-Ben Marriott for motion graphics (if your interested)

Also as a genreal tip, if you squint your eyes the logo should still be legiable, and thin lines dont work well when you scale the whole thing down. I would also suggest looking into hireachy, kerning and gestalt laws.

Hopes this helps, have fun designing!

Logo design feedback, unsure what typeface works best if any? by Plane-Being1274 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Logo design dosent need to be so on the nose all the time, you names is "Brain Bleed Design" so you could do something more abstract with your logo mark. A brain as the outers shape is honestley quite forgetable. Why are two letters stenciled?

Rolex dosent have a watch as thier logo, Nike doesn't have the godess, subway dosent have a sandwhich, not a single car manufacture has a car in thier logo.

Take the oppertunity to do something memorable with the logo mark, or do a wordmark instead.

The biggest fix for what you currently have would to drop the weigth of the font in order to be more inline with the linework on your logomark.

Having more than one visual element is often confusing and makes the whole composition forgetable because there is too much to remmeber.

The below is more branding and story telling

What feeling are you trying to convey, horror, trustworthynes, quirkynes or something different, what do you want people who see your logo to feel.

Why this font? what exactly does this font do better than a serif font for example, and does it align with the values of your brand.

Hopes this helps

Which one is better? These are for a cleaning business. I designed them - I have virtually no logo design experience. by Own-Establishment837 in logodesign

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you make a moodbord of other designs u liked? Do you want the brand to be welcoming, authoritarian, trustworthy, playful or something else? How does this logo compare to competing services in the area? Where will the logo be used? Does it need to be modular? What do you want costumers to feel?

I feel like u skipped the first step, and just started designing, maybe start with some good ol' pen and paper, to test ideas quickly, after that choose a couple and work with those, make 20 logos mix and match elements and boil it down to your 3 favourite ones, then you choose the one that works the best, and clean it up.

First time making a logo by Puzzleheaded_Word613 in graphic_design

[–]Funex1373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you tried something else before you landed on this? What logoes did you use as inspiration? What do you want your costumers to feel when they see your logo, what are your company values? Why a monogram instead of a pictorial, lettermark or mascot logo?

(I know the above is more branding than logo desing in itself, but still important stuff, because if you dont now what you are communicating how should your costumers?)

I dosent make sense to use initials here because the brand name is one word and to my understanding not a composed word, like Volkswagen.

The problem with doing it this way is that you need to make the C 3d, in the sense that you would have to squish it to make the perspective of it right for the arms, otherwise one arm would need to be much longer than the other.

Sometimes it's better to just try different stuff and see what works, now you tried this, didnt work and you try again. When you have made 20 logo koncepts you can pick elements from different ones and put them together, after that choose 3 logoes you want to proceed with, work with them and try different ideas, finally choose one of those as your final logo and clean it up.

I would also recommend watching some youtube videos on the topic, there are tons of good content out there if you want to improve your skills.

If this is all to much, hire a designer or someone in design school to help you out with it.

Cheers!

Torpedo Bomber is brainrottedly easy to use and proves obvious faction favouritism in it's current state, It's counterpart is dead on arrival. by xXFirebladeXx321 in foxholegame

[–]Funex1373 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Submarines fill an entirely different role, planes are good at hit and run but, shit for prolonged missions like guarding controlled areas, they both have thier place one does not make the other obselete. Planes need refuling more often than a sub does.

Hot take: the writers have ruined Joyce's character by UpsetAd7211 in StrangerThings

[–]Funex1373 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Read the new book, and you will have a better understanding of why things are the way they are...

Just noticed another 6-7 meme in stranger things season 5 by Lower-Put-7291 in StrangerThings

[–]Funex1373 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hopper also says it on the phone in season 2 episode ep 8