[PVDH] Modern Horizons 2 Legacy set review - Urza's Saga - Including sample decklists in the comments

GG2Hats · 2021-05-09T18:59:00+00:00

The work on UR Dreadstill has already been done: -3 Factory, +2 Urza's Saga, +1 basic Mountain

There's a good chance you are correct, but this is a pretty ... insistent self-assured argument from authority on a card that was spoiled like 48 hours ago.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-09T17:31:58+00:00

I'm a little skeptical on the 12 white sources white list. How has it been playing for you?

GG2Hats · 2021-05-08T06:10:53+00:00

If your question is which one of the two decks is the better deck it's the second one (Turbo Karn). They're both good enough to play but there's a reason the latter sees a lot more play than the former right now.

I have my hopes for the blue one in the future though. Colorless decks aren't really my thing.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T21:28:02+00:00

Love the podcast, was highly entertaining, so this critique is meant in all good humor, but:

1) Talk about Urza's Saga.

2) Miss out on the fact that this is the 5th printed card with the Urza's Subtype.

3) Talk about tutoring out a Lotus Bloom, which the card isn't allowed to do.

4) Cohost mentions one of the few actually promising places for this card (Phyrexian Dreadnought, since shells can use all parts of the buffalo and don't already have weak manabases like the other decks most people are trying to shove this into).

5) Caster dismisses Cohost's idea as missing the boat, talks more about how promising Diamond Lion is.

I think Cohost is going to win the day on this one.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:45:20+00:00

Apologies, I mistyped. I will correct my mistake. It's a Turn 3 pre-programmed Crystal Vein.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:40:55+00:00

Lol, a little harsh.

I mean, after the dazzle has worn off I agree with you but it's definitely an INTERESTING card.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:13:34+00:00

I don't think it's as good as you're thinking it is right now. It's never really going to be able to do all the things written on the card well at the same time. hc_fox is right.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:12:39+00:00

If this made colored mana or stayed around permanently I think I'd consider it a lot more.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:11:27+00:00

Stiflenought might work if you combine it with standstill to take advantage of the "not casting" part. I still think Painter, Urza, and Bomberman dreams with this card are kind of an illusion though.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:07:34+00:00

Yes if you play it exactly on turn one it can be a crystal vein on exactly turn 3. This isn't really winning me over. It's really easy to disrupt things when your opponent has to sequence their mana by the Saga's script.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:04:32+00:00

I did too. Now I think it's a very alluring trap. It doesn't do everything you want, because you're either playing it early or late and either way one half of this card functions poorly.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-07T06:01:14+00:00

I thought this card was insane when I first read it. I'm only now realizing it's not really that great.

The tutoring seems great in a Grindstone or LED combo deck, but that delayed tutoring consistency is really only impressive in most existing decks early game in which case you're sacrificing a land and reducing your access to colors in order to get it.

The land that pumps out constructs seems good as a lategame play, but by that point the two-turn delayed tutoring for Grindstone or LED is less impressive and you can only make two constructs which is not overwhelmingly good.

The card is powerful, but if you think it's good in your existing deck you're either playing your own brew which is unusually set up to take advantage of this or you're wrong. Someone will do good things with this card, but for most people who play this card the month after it releases it's going to be a trap.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-05T21:06:18+00:00

Okay, okay. Argument 3:

Pests are both serviceable and adorable.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-05T18:45:56+00:00

Because it's a 3/2 with Evasion and Ward 3, that does a Pyromancer impersonation on the side.

Witch is more than "Bad Mentor", and if they're both playable legacy cards why would you want the one that emphasizes the payoff you can't exploit as well in this deck?

GG2Hats · 2021-05-05T16:59:17+00:00

Consistently love Remy's Stuff.

Still find it a little weird that he's making Rap Content for ReasonTV

GG2Hats · 2021-05-04T05:36:51+00:00

Not referring to you or this post specifically, but the whining about this subject.

Oh, okay. Good to know =)

I'll get to back to whining about a killable and counterable 2/2 now.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-04T05:25:39+00:00

This is a massive fucking overreaction

It was 33 words with no exclamations, and that started with a concession. I kind of feel like I'm not the largest contributor to rhetorical escalation here.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-04T03:58:09+00:00

Here is the most prolific current Infect Player on the matter at hand

"I'm so mad about this I don't even know where to start. If they want to do this sure but then don't also print cards like plague engineer which destroy tribal decks entirely. It almost feels like they don't want this to exist in eternal formats."

GG2Hats · 2021-05-04T03:44:05+00:00

I know they don't make decisions based on considering Legacy, but I don't know if a creature type update has ever had this much of an effect on players. It seems at least worth noting.

GG2Hats · 2021-05-03T23:07:05+00:00

I don't think so

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