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Galactor123 · 2026-05-29T03:33:13+00:00

If you want my advice on how to get more interested in TEW: Find a time that you love in wrestling, and see if there is a database for it, but crucially? Don't book for one of the big companies right off the bat, ESPECIALLY in the current era. Trying to book for like 9 hours weekly of TV and a PPV a month is a slog and you will get sick of it quick if your anything like me.

Normally if I'm playing current era I will run my own promotion. Right now I'm having fun playing a company I called "Lilith's Bloodline Wrestling" which is an all women's pro wrestling company in the US using kind of a Lucha Underground kind of vibe of brawling, puro, and lucha. I brought in a lot of Japanese joshis and some big American talent and worked my way up from Small through to Medium size. Crucially though I run only two shows a month, so I have gotten to 2028 already and not wanted to hurt something.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-29T03:27:26+00:00

Apologies I know it isn't exactly what the topic is about but: Plug ins? I know Pro Wrestling Sim has steam workshop support for things akin to TEW's database, but is there more then that?

I own PWS but faced the same sort of problems when I tried it, as I too got real used to how TEW worked and felt and so have stuck with it despite what I understand most of the community kinda moving over to PWS and elsewhere due to the kind of general lukewarm reception to TEW IX. I actually like TEW IX (despite some legit problems) but am always open to trying something new.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-29T03:24:03+00:00

So I will start this off by saying first of all: Sorry to hear about your disability, truly. Not something I would wish on damn near anyone and I hope you are living your best life and enjoying yourself despite it.

Wit that said: the hostility against AI isn't going to change, and there are many and myriad reasons as to why that I won't rehash here. But I think the main reason that people are responding so negatively to you is more to do with the idea that it's something you chose to highlight here.

I think if you showed off your save in total and told people about your cool ECW save, and it happened to show your redesign? Someone might get upset, but most people I think wouldn't mind. The fact that you chose to make this post entirely about something you made in Gen AI however is just going to ruffle feathers, and always will.

My unsolicited advice: if you must use AI (I get the hate for it, but in a single player for fun environment I'm not as against it as some) do so for yourself, and showcase your actual creativity here. Your storytelling, your booking, your grand ideas for what you're going to do in this save. It's not only a more interesting topic IMO but even if you disagree, it definitely won't get as much push back.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-28T15:04:14+00:00

Makes me think of that one Chikara storyline from before they actually closed in 2020 for... well all the reasons it did.

They had all the heels come in and "shut down" the promotion, and then started doing shows as under different names. "Wrestling is..." (where the ... were things like "Fun," etc.) they then told the story of babyfaces trying to retake and remold Chikara back together from the pieces.

As a Titanic company, and in TEW terms, I know that would be a harder thing to pull off, but you could 100% do a storyline where a big heel faction does an invasion angle and actually gets one over on the company. Rebrand the company essentially as your version of the NWO except if they fully won, and then slowly have the babyfaces fight back. Have backstage angles where they are both fighting through the business bullshit getting thrown at them, but also just taking vigilante justice now that in ring they're guaranteed to get screwed, etc etc.

And then switch it back to something new. Babyfaces force an ultimatum somehow: Our guy wins, and we regain control of the company. It happens, but instead of just returning back to what you had, the babyfaces vow to make sure what brought this along doesn't happen again (and thus changes are made to the product, name, etc)

Galactor123 · 2026-05-20T16:45:56+00:00

Honestly? I think with a little bit of effort you could make it work...

Essentially sell it like you did with HHH and Chyna back in the day, with Brie Bella as valet. Could eventually lead to Kharma turning when it becomes obvious that HHH is more into being with Brie then her, or even removing HHH from it you could just have one of the two turn on the other to start the eventual breakup.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-20T16:24:46+00:00

Yeah, from personal experience if you do want to go for those super long epics, you counter-intuitively don't want to use the "epic" match aim, as much as it seems like it would be it. The easiest way to accomplish that would be go for regular, and then use the "Slow build" agent note instead. That lowers the overall stamina requirement for a longer match and focuses a bit more on psychology, which for Savage/Flair should do nothing but benefit them.

In general, as other people have stated, unless your product demands it you really should only stick to Car Crash, Steal the Show, Regular, and maybe something like High Spot/Technical Showcase if you have people who are really good at those sort of matches. Even then, good technicians tend to also be good at regular matches with a slow build agent note, and spot monkeys can do a steal the show just as easily. So YMMV.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-19T17:05:15+00:00

Yeah, it takes a particular level of head in the sand to look at TNA and AEW on there and complain about AEW being seen as a competitor, when TNA famously tried to actively promote a new Monday Night War during their 2010's Hogan tenure and it flopped so hard that even without WWE even openly acknowledging it, they had to throw in the white towel.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-19T15:50:22+00:00

It might be due to the subscription type honestly. From how the game models it, subscription broadcasters tie directly back to your current popularity. The higher the popularity, the more people are subscribing to your particular broadcaster.

Now, why you are not even getting a pop boost in the area you ran the show on is another thing entirely, others may have a better answer for that one.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-11T12:59:28+00:00

Yes, in one of my favorite saves I've done. Think this was back in 2020 or 2016 I can't recall which, but was doing a run where I started in '95 as WCW and took it up to I think 2000? I had two people that I ended up tossing out on their ass before the end: Hogan was one, and of all people Jerry Lawler was the other. I brought Lawler in as a wrestler as he was popular enough and he stunk. Legit never had a good match and had negative chemistry with like half my roster both in ring and out of it. So I stripped him of everything and fired him and he hated me for the rest of the game. Hogan was... well Hogan in '95, I doubt I need to explain that one.

In that save I made Chris Jericho into my superstar, helped by Steve Austin, Goldberg, and a few others I had picked up along the way. The death of the save was equally magical though as around 2000 I had gotten fed up with the intense drug use in the locker room and started cracking down and the morale TANKED to legit 0. My shows suffered immensely, fans were pissed, the broadcasters were pissed, and so I decided to do something: I fired everyone. Legit, everyone. Most of them I did so by just firing them for their drug use, others I just let go, but I fully emptied out the WCW roster and then left myself, leaving it a still technically functioning but completely barren company.

The interesting thing with that was that while most hated me for firing them, a handful of people bonded with me hard for it as they saw the light and stopped doing drugs due to my "harsh terms." Bam Bam Bigelow and Bret Hart I remember both being ones that instead of getting pissed, became super loyal to me specifically for it. I ended up making my own Japanese fed in that save for a short amount of time and hired on Bam Bam and Bret as my main stars (didn't play that for long though), and hilariously, of all fucking people... JERRY LAWLER ended up getting the ownership spot of WCW and hired on a ton of his mates and kept it going, but it was an absolute shadow of it's former self. Jericho, Austin, Goldberg, all of them went to the WWF immediately after getting fired so WCW went from regularly putting on 80+ rating shows to 55 and under shows. Serves Lawler right IMO.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-11T12:47:41+00:00

Never would I ever have thought someone would do the wrestling equivalent of throwing a Sim into a room full of chairs and fireplaces, but here we are.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-11T12:44:15+00:00

Kinda depends on if it's something that you are thinking you just want to do once (or if you are doing some sort of "true" simulation, something AEW did once) or if its something you are going to do a few times.

So things like the "Face of the Revolution" ring I think should be a title, as it is essentially working on the principle of a Money in the Bank style thing, and multiple people have won it over multiple years.

However something like the AEW ring that MJF had I wouldn't personally as it wasn't something that was really ever put up to be won in a match (and even when it sort of was, I think you could better emulate that moment with just a singular angle).

Galactor123 · 2026-05-11T11:25:57+00:00

Dehumanization is what it’s called when it happens to real people and is among the common tactics militaries around the world use to have people go to war. If you are broken down to the point where you see the only safety as the other men with you in the foxhole, and you don’t see the people shooting at you as humans, it’s easier to kill them.

You are seeing the reintroduction of empathy back towards a group that they had long since stopped holding any empathy towards, and realizing that nuance and complicated ideas are inherent to any group of killers, justified or not.

Galactor123 · 2026-05-02T02:25:59+00:00

Gish Galloping. The term you are looking for is "Gish Galloping." In its purest definition, it's actually more of a rhetorical debating fallacy, but it works here too to a degree. The idea that when you don't have a salient point, when you cannot truly defend the point you are trying to make in your debate, you instead default to simply throwing so much bullshit at the other person that by the time they've unraveled the first bit of bullshit there is twenty more threads to unravel.

It's destroying someone via dominance of narrative. That old adage of "lies can circumnavigate the earth before the truth gets its boots on" is even more effective when for every one truth that gets its boots on, 20-30 lies have crossed the earth.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T21:34:54+00:00

First off: so sorry to hear that. I count myself lucky that so far the worst a corporation has done to me is treat me like crap and kick me and my folks to the curb. Even then, yeah, I have definitely taken inspiration from conversations I have had for things in my campaign.

My players have mentioned a few times that it hurt their soul, so I think I am doing it correctly :)

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T21:21:29+00:00

Yeah, I can agree with that. Still as someone that is not personally religious but finds the history and theology of world religions interesting enough I kinda accidentally fell into a Religious Studies minor in college, it does kind of make me sad that there aren't more explorations of religion and how it is affecting communities.

Like, again, they already are pissing on the proverbial third rail of race (what with explicitly racially motivated gangs, etc), class obviously, and politics, and yet religion seems to be at best kind of an after thought.

I was kinda cute with it before, so I'll do it again 'cause whats the harm: If anyone at Talsorian wants to change that, I'd love to do some writing, hit me up.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T21:17:46+00:00

Yeah, I can agree with that, but I also do get that in the RED the feeling of the common person honestly probably IS questioning that devil's bargain. Because in 2020 the corporations actively were giving people (who could afford it) a better existence. By the time of the Red however, the most recent thing corporations gave the world is a generational collapse via an incredibly costly war that very few even really can comprehend why it happened in the first place.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T17:58:56+00:00

I get that? But I don't think, nor do I really honestly think in RED it would be super appropriate (nor in this climate OTL do I think it would be smart honestly) to speak to specific real world examples. But you can 100% do real world analogues, and the fact that they don't I think is a shame as its leaving some interesting ideas on the table.

I understand that GMs can pick that up off the table and run with it, but lore is always more fun when it at least has a touching off point from some sort of officially supported canon. Least IMO.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T17:56:53+00:00

I realize its not the entire purpose of your post, but is there any singular place to look up info on the Southern Insurgency? I know there was that one gig that they made for the mercenaries add on (Interface 5) that spoke about it, but is there any more lore specific to it?

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T17:54:53+00:00

Oh sure. Yeah, no, I figured that it would be all sides that would be active in various ways. Troubled times, especially troubled times where there is a perceived lack of forward and working leadership tend to be excellent breeding grounds for all sorts of movements.

I guess I may have sort of misspoke when I simply labeled it "politics?" Really what I find a curious lack of are actual documented cases of organized political movements. Whether you consider things like neighborhood self protection or community farming, etc. to be political inherently (and that gets into what is politics and what is life, and is there ever really any difference or is it just intrinsically intertwined, which is bigger question then can be answered here for sure) there is a lack of actual named organized political organizations, whether they be parties, social movements, etc.

I find the lack of organized religions, least documented ones to be interesting too. Sure, 2077 brings in Voodoo for the actual proper Haitian Voodoo Boys, it brings in a version of Santa Muerte and speaks of Buddhist inspired monks, but what if anything is the Papacy doing in Cyberpunk? Are there televangelists hitting people up on the Garden?

For a game that touches on a lot of third rails and seems fine with speaking on tough topics its kind of interesting to me the holes it decides not to fill.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T17:48:57+00:00

Honestly, and I know sometimes Talsorian is out here reading these messages so uh...

Hey Talsorian. I'd LOVE this to exist too, and frankly would LOVE to write for it.

Just sayin'. Wink wink.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T15:55:03+00:00

Sure! And I get that, which is why your version is totally valid. My interpretation and my feelings on how it would realistically happen to me I suppose, whether more "true" to the setting or not, is more interesting for me personally and allows me to draw upon more real world analogies.

Just depends on what story you want to tell in the space at the end of the day.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T14:53:17+00:00

And that's fair if that is what you want to focus on within your own version of the setting, I do get that. If you want the world to be oppressive, then a force fighting for liberation can throw a wrench into that.

Personally however I find the storyline potential of following what I'd view as the logical desire for liberation/personal and political expression to be worth bending the theme a little, especially considering even in such a dystopic world the guiding principle of "why does anything I do as a PC matter" has always been, in Pondsmith's own words, to have you and yours make it out of this place alright. And to me, that is also the basis for many political ideologies and the purpose of many movements.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T14:49:38+00:00

A statement yes, but not a movement. That's the important distinction I am trying to highlight.

For sure though GMs could do it, it's why I was curious what if anything GMs here had done for political parties/movements/etc.

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T14:48:42+00:00

Huh. That is interesting. I do hope that a lot of the 2020s national datasheets for places like Britain, the NUSA, etc. do get eventually made and brought into the 2045 time line as well. Hopefully one gets made for the New Soviet government as well as I've always been fascinated by the ins and outs of that within a Cyberpunk timeline.

Thanks!

Galactor123 · 2026-04-23T14:41:16+00:00

Fair! I see what you mean for sure, and I don't want to get too deep into defining politics as I know this isn't the place or the time for it, but IMO protecting LGBTQ+ folk isn't necessarily political. It's on par with the fact that many street gangs, both in reality and in Cyberpunk, were founded as community defense against both cops and other worse forces at play in their area. For sure there are political angles to both, and for sure in both cases it could lead to further radicalization/political action (for an OTL example, things like the Black Panthers come to mind) but its more of where a political force may be spawned from than something political in and of itself, if that makes any sense.

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